Dockworkers Strike

[irishff1014]

Dockworkers may have the negotiating advantage in their strike against US ports

Workers began walking picket lines early Tuesday in a strike over wages and automation even though progress had been reported in contract talks.

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How much do dockworkers make? Here are the striking workers' salaries.

Thousands of East and Gulf Coast dockworkers are on strike and demanding higher pay. Here's how much they earn.

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These people have lost their minds. 77% increase of 6 years. And they don't want more automation. You morons are going to push them to more automation because the machines in 6 years won't ask for unreasonable numbers, they won't call out sick, they will produce the same amount everyday.

The people that will suffer right now are the areas hit but the hurricane. Our local Sam's Club is already out of toilet paper, trash bags, paper towels and i have heard some canned food items.

I hate greedy people. And hate is a strong word. But i hope a lot of those people face hard times ahead.

 

[stlnd01]

I, for one, would rather my job not be replaced by a robot. I don't think that's greed.

 

[irishff1014]

I, for one, would rather my job not be replaced by a robot. I don't think that's greed.

Asking for 77% increase and turning down a 50% increase of 6 years is greed.

 

[NDRock]

Asking for 77% increase and turning down a 50% increase of 6 years is greed.

Why? Always funny when the working class guys ask to be compensated it’s greed. Thought it’s all part of capitalism. Rich people/politicians sold this country out years ago. I’ll always side with the working man.

 

[TorontoGold]

You plebs! You should walk into your bosses office and DEMAND a paycut! Show you care!

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Dockworkers in this country make approximately $40 to $60 per hour depending on which region of the country. A 77% wage increase would make their hourly wage pretty substantial. Going from $50/hour to almost $90/hour is a huge jump for any occupation where your “raise” isn‘t based on increased productivity, more revenue generated for your employer or notable increase in job performance. I can’t say they whether or not they deserve the raise but I do think that the use of more automation is going to be a must for this industry. Could you imagine the UAW saying that AI or robotics couldn’t be used? Either way, the consumers who buy the goods will be bearing the cost.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Buy American. Then we don’t need to worry about ports.

 

[irishff1014]

Why? Always funny when the working class guys ask to be compensated it’s greed. Thought it’s all part of capitalism. Rich people/politicians sold this country out years ago. I’ll always side with the working man.

There’s a difference in being compensated and being greedy. There is no one in their right mind other than a politician that would think asking for a 77% raise is normal. And better yet when they counter at 50% you tell them no. Ha you are damn fool.

I hope those areas need a lot of tow truck drivers and bankruptcy loan managers. Be cause that’s exactly what they deserve.

The begged and begged to get back to work in Baltimore after that incident and now they are on strike. I guess time weren’t that bad 7 months ago.

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

I sympathize with these guys but realistically what do they expect? It’s not like we’re just never going to advance port technology ever again

 

[nvirish]

Replace them!!! Out of touch.

 

[NDRock]

There’s a difference in being compensated and being greedy. There is no one in their right mind other than a politician that would think asking for a 77% raise is normal. And better yet when they counter at 50% you tell them no. Ha you are damn fool.

I hope those areas need a lot of tow truck drivers and bankruptcy loan managers. Be cause that’s exactly what they deserve.

The begged and begged to get back to work in Baltimore after that incident and now they are on strike. I guess time weren’t that bad 7 months ago.

So according to you 50% over 6 years is ok but 77% is greedy? How’s 55%, greedy or no? Where’s the cutoff line for you and how/why did you get there?

Frank Sobotka would have gotten the 90%.

 

[yankeehater]

Asking for 77% increase and turning down a 50% increase of 6 years is greed.

They better watch out because they just might get their bluff called. How is that $20/hr fast food minimum wage working out in Cali? Now I get to punch in my order at a kiosk instead of speaking to a human!

 

[Bluto]

Dockworkers in this country make approximately $40 to $60 per hour depending on which region of the country. A 77% wage increase would make their hourly wage pretty substantial. Going from $50/hour to almost $90/hour is a huge jump for any occupation where your “raise” isn‘t based on increased productivity, more revenue generated for your employer or notable increase in job performance. I can’t say they whether or not they deserve the raise but I do think that the use of more automation is going to be a must for this industry. Could you imagine the UAW saying that AI or robotics couldn’t be used? Either way, the consumers who buy the goods will be bearing the cost.

$50 to $90 an hour is a lower to upper middle class income in the major metro areas with ports on the west coast.

The amounts for raises being tossed around are probably a drop in the bucket when compared to the total value of the goods passing through the ports on an annual basis.

 

[GowerND11]

They better watch out because they just might get their bluff called. How is that $20/hr fast food minimum wage working out in Cali? Now I get to punch in my order at a kiosk instead of speaking to a human!

That stuff was happening long before the minimum wage increases.

Meanwhile, McDonald’s is still taking in MASSIVE profits. Almost like corporations are never willing to pay fair wages

 

[calvegas04]

Turn to Musk... he hates the middle class and will find a way to replace the dock workers

 

[Wild Bill]

There’s a difference in being compensated and being greedy. There is no one in their right mind other than a politician that would think asking for a 77% raise is normal. And better yet when they counter at 50% you tell them no. Ha you are damn fool.

I hope those areas need a lot of tow truck drivers and bankruptcy loan managers. Be cause that’s exactly what they deserve.

The begged and begged to get back to work in Baltimore after that incident and now they are on strike. I guess time weren’t that bad 7 months ago.

Maersk made record profits during COVID. So much money they didn't know what to do with it, they just wanted to make sure shareholders got paid while they were price gouging. Go ahead and Google their numbers. Insane increases in profit year over year. Huge increase in dividend per share. That was their priority, and it probably didn't sit well with the greedy workers.

 

[irishff1014]

So according to you 50% over 6 years is ok but 77% is greedy? How’s 55%, greedy or no? Where’s the cutoff line for you and how/why did you get there?

Frank Sobotka would have gotten the 90%.

Absolutely not. But if I were to ask for a 77% pay raise and they countered at 50 % I would take that and run.

They claim they want less automation but yet they they strike so it gives more opportunity for the exact thing they are fighting against.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

$50 to $90 an hour is a lower to upper middle class income in the major metro areas with ports on the west coast.

The amounts for raises being tossed around are probably a drop in the bucket when compared to the total value of the goods passing through the ports on an annual basis.

You are right sir, the cost of living on the west coast is steep. It would be interesting to review the financials to see what percentage of the cost is payroll/employee expense.

 

[irishff1014]

Maersk made record profits during COVID. So much money they didn't know what to do with it, they just wanted to make sure shareholders got paid while they were price gouging. Go ahead and Google their numbers. Insane increases in profit year over year. Huge increase in dividend per share. That was their priority, and it probably didn't sit well with the greedy workers.

A lot of companies did. It just wasn’t the shipping industry. And I am not saying the don’t deserve a raise but what they are asking for is unreasonable.

Look at a baseball game. We took my son in April to an O’s game sat three rows from the field for like 85 a ticket against KC then they were play the angels not even a good team and those same tickets were like 130 a piece. It’s the same plastic seat!

 

[Wild Bill]

A lot of companies did. It just wasn’t the shipping industry. And I am not saying the don’t deserve a raise but what they are asking for is unreasonable.

Look at a baseball game. We took my son in April to an O’s game sat three rows from the field for like 85 a ticket against KC then they were play the angels not even a good team and those same tickets were like 130 a piece. It’s the same plastic seat!

Relative to the increase in profits it appears to be reasonable, or very close to reasonable given they were already offered 50%.

They have leverage and they're using it. Call it greedy but that's business.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Relative to the increase in profits it appears to be reasonable, or very close to reasonable given they were already offered 50%.

They have leverage and they're using it. Call it greedy but that's business.

I would call it negotiating…….always ask for more than you are willing to settle for.

 

[NDPhilly]

Just finished season two of The Wire so you can consider me the resident expert in longshoremen related activities. AMA.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Just finished season two of The Wire so you can consider me the resident expert in longshoremen related activities. AMA.

When is the grain pier gonna be reopened?

 

[yankeehater]

That stuff was happening long before the minimum wage increases.

Meanwhile, McDonald’s is still taking in MASSIVE profits. Almost like corporations are never willing to pay fair wages

I would love to see the breakdown of where McDonalds is making their profits. California based fast food chains are closing down all throughout the state. Costs are eating into profitability.

I work for a large corporation in a different industry and our pretax margins have gone from plus 30% to single digits in the last four years. It is not sustainable.

Restaurant chain shuts down nearly 50 locations in California following minimum wage hike

The Mexican restaurant chain Rubio's Coastal Grill has announced the closure of 48 restaurants across California following a minimum wage hike in the state.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Ndaccountant]

Dockworkers in this country make approximately $40 to $60 per hour depending on which region of the country. A 77% wage increase would make their hourly wage pretty substantial. Going from $50/hour to almost $90/hour is a huge jump for any occupation where your “raise” isn‘t based on increased productivity, more revenue generated for your employer or notable increase in job performance. I can’t say they whether or not they deserve the raise but I do think that the use of more automation is going to be a must for this industry. Could you imagine the UAW saying that AI or robotics couldn’t be used? Either way, the consumers who buy the goods will be bearing the cost.

They kinda do work those into negotiations

 

[MacIrish75]

At the risk of getting too political...you would think that being a month off from the election, it would behoove the party that generally unions most align with to encourage them to strike a deal as quickly as possible. In the short term, I've read that economists don't expect the strike to impact the cost of goods, but if this thing extends out a month, all bets are off. As promising as polling numbers have been for the Democratic Party, you'd think they'd be quick to thwart any situation that would give Trump/Vance any sort of footing to attack them on.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

That stuff was happening long before the minimum wage increases.

Meanwhile, McDonald’s is still taking in MASSIVE profits. Almost like corporations are never willing to pay fair wages

Are they? I thought I read that McDonalds was taking losses for the first time in their history the past few years.

 

[bkess8]

Just wondering how many of you with opinions work a labor dependent job like the dockworkers?

 

[Corry]

Who the hell doesn’t side with workers in a collective bargaining negotiation? A lot of bootlicking going on in this tread.

 

[GowerND11]

Are they? I thought I read that McDonalds was taking losses for the first time in their history the past few years.

Profits on profits on profits