Russia Invades Ukraine

[NorthDakota]

I can't find anything that would support this claim.

She said he's an illegitimate president and that he didn't win in 2016.

 

[Blazers46]

How is a few hundred idiots kinda sorta acting up at the Capitol with minimal damage to property and people worse than thousands rioting and burning government buildings, assaulting hundreds, burning cities, and looting countless businesses? I mean, other than one was done by Conservatives and the other by and at the encouragment of Liberals.

Good and evil is always a matter of whose side YOU are on.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

So to clarify… you think Trumps situation is worse because of what HE did or what the people storming the capitol did? I think you keep convoluting the two.

Both, I believe he purposely cast doubt on the election results as being illegitimate and the actions taken by him and his team between election day and January 6th directly led to what happened that day

 

[Blazers46]

Both, I believe he purposely cast doubt on the election results as being illegitimate and the actions taken by him and his team between election day and January 6th directly led to what happened that day

So since Hilary and the left have casted doubt on Trump winning fairly all it would take is for some rando to do something stupid to make it worse than Jan 6?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

How is a few hundred idiots kinda sorta acting up at the Capitol with minimal damage to property and people worse than thousands rioting and burning government buildings, assaulting hundreds, burning cities, and looting countless businesses? I mean, other than one was done by Conservatives and the other by and at the encouragment of Liberals.

Worse in regards to a goal of stopping the certification of an election and keeping someone who lost an election in as president.

Not worse in regards to the damage done to a city and violence that happened in Minneapolis.

Again I'm condemning what happened there and other similar events that summer and any other time. People have a right to protest, not a right to riot and loot and those that did this or encouraged it should be held accountable. It has nothing to do with politically ideology for me

 

[NorthDakota]

Worse in regards to a goal of stopping the certification of an election and keeping someone who lost an election in as president.

Not worse in regards to the damage done to a city and violence that happened in Minneapolis.

Again I'm condemning what happened there and other similar events that summer and any other time. People have a right to protest, not a right to riot and loot and those that did this or encouraged it should be held accountable. It has nothing to do with politically ideology for me

A lot of minneapolis is still wrecked. Tim Walz should be executed for his incompetence.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

So since Hilary and the left have casted doubt on Trump winning fairly all it would take is for some rando to do something stupid to make it worse than Jan 6?

I'm really not sure I understand the scenario you're proposing.

Here's a hypothetical on par with what happened 4 years ago but in present day and that I think answers what your asking, if not sorry for the novel.

Let's say Trump wins a close election by the needed swing states at margins similar to what we saw in 2020. Kamala then goes and says that at the state level in those key saying states, that there's been massive amounts of election fraud and that results aren't accurate. She then goes on to lose those cases, she still continues to say the election was fraudulent, casts doubts about the ballot counting and mail in process. January 6 2025 comes around and Congress is in session to count the electoral votes. Kamala in hear role current vice president oversees that count. That morning she gives a speech calls for peace, no fighting and no marching on the Capitol. The people listen and nothing happens. Congress is able to convene and count the vote, but Kamala doesn't certify it due to some fishiness in swing states voting. And she sends it back to the states to decide the proper electoral slates to use.

Completely hypothetical and more than likely wouldn't happen but let's never say never.

The series of hypothetical events in my make believe timeline is what Trump was advocating for Pence to do and the public actions Trump took. Difference between the two is Pence eventually did certify the votes after being delayed because of a large group of people storming the Capitol. It led to a death that day and others after. Remember my hypothetical was without violence and Kamala taking the actions Trump wanted Pence to take.

Would you be ok with my hypothetical situation? Because I sure as hell wouldn't. In the time leading up I would be saying she's wrong, she lost, she needs to concede and play her role in unifying the people. On the day of, I would be on here screaming lock her up! Send her to gulag! This comrade bitch just overtook our country, it was a fucking coup. We've never seen anything like this. I would even be saying this is way worse than anything we say 4 years ago. And that would be with no violence occuring.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

A lot of minneapolis is still wrecked. Tim Walz should be executed for his incompetence.

Well that's a states issue so we should let the people of Minneapolis and the rest of Minnesota decide, which they did in 2022 when they reelected him.

 

[NorthDakota]

Well that's a states issue so we should let the people of Minneapolis and the rest of Minnesota decide, which they did in 2022 when they reelected him.

Minneapolis reelected him. Pretty sad.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Minneapolis reelected him. Pretty sad.

You're making it sound like the people of Minneapolis approved how he handled the situation and voiced that at the ballot box, and that the rest of State knows what best for Minneapolis' problems

 

[Blazers46]

I'm really not sure I understand the scenario you're proposing.

Here's a hypothetical on par with what happened 4 years ago but in present day and that I think answers what your asking, if not sorry for the novel.

Let's say Trump wins a close election by the needed swing states at margins similar to what we saw in 2020. Kamala then goes and says that at the state level in those key saying states, that there's been massive amounts of election fraud and that results aren't accurate. She then goes on to lose those cases, she still continues to say the election was fraudulent, casts doubts about the ballot counting and mail in process. January 6 2025 comes around and Congress is in session to count the electoral votes. Kamala in hear role current vice president oversees that count. That morning she gives a speech calls for peace, no fighting and no marching on the Capitol. The people listen and nothing happens. Congress is able to convene and count the vote, but Kamala doesn't certify it due to some fishiness in swing states voting. And she sends it back to the states to decide the proper electoral slates to use.

Completely hypothetical and more than likely wouldn't happen but let's never say never.

The series of hypothetical events in my make believe timeline is what Trump was advocating for Pence to do and the public actions Trump took. Difference between the two is Pence eventually did certify the votes after being delayed because of a large group of people storming the Capitol. It led to a death that day and others after. Remember my hypothetical was without violence and Kamala taking the actions Trump wanted Pence to take.

Would you be ok with my hypothetical situation? Because I sure as hell wouldn't. In the time leading up I would be saying she's wrong, she lost, she needs to concede and play her role in unifying the people. On the day of, I would be on here screaming lock her up! Send her to gulag! This comrade bitch just overtook our country, it was a fucking coup. We've never seen anything like this. I would even be saying this is way worse than anything we say 4 years ago. And that would be with no violence occuring.

You could have just said trade Trump for anyone on the left in 2020… my answer would be the same.

Earlier you made the comment that Trump told people to march and fight… and that makes him disqualified to be president, do you have the same conviction for everyone in this video:

 

[NorthDakota]

You're making it sound like the people of Minneapolis approved how he handled the situation and voiced that at the ballot box, and that the rest of State knows what best for Minneapolis' problems

Can't fix stupid. Sorta what happened to Colorado too

 

[RDU Irish]

If you believed there were legitimate reasons to question the election result would it change your stance?

LOL at anyone seeing that agitator montage for the first time.

Faux outrage from the left and so many people fall for it.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

You could have just said trade Trump for anyone on the left in 2020… my answer would be the same.

Earlier you made the comment that Trump told people to march and fight… and that makes him disqualified to be president, do you have the same conviction for everyone in this video:

If your answer would be the same no matter can I get an answer because I'm really not sure where you fall on this. You're continuing deflecting the actions leading up to that day and minimizing what transpired that day to day that it was wrong and has zero place in our country.


The context of everything that he had said and the things transpired in the time leading up to the day of January 6th matters. And what Congress was set to do that matters. They weren't storming the Capitol building when it was empty. They very specifically targeted that day and timing with the goal of preventing the certification of the election results. That's matters when weighing how severe this is and what it means for our democracy.

Regarding the video, I don't view any of those statements at all in the same regarding the the words and context of Trump's speech the day. That being said none of our political leaders should ever be saying or advocating to go up and punch the president or violence against someone of a different political party. But you asking that is deflecting completely from the issue at hand and the events that happened. When I've already and very clearly stated I'm holding everyone to the same standard when it comes to this.

 

[RDU Irish]

I love a polite insurrection that stays between the ropes. SMH.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

If you believed there were legitimate reasons to question the election result would it change your stance?

LOL at anyone seeing that agitator montage for the first time.

Faux outrage from the left and so many people fall for it.

It would change my stance on how I felt and viewed the results of the election. It wouldn't change how I think it should be handled after the court cases had been decided and all legal means to challenge the election had been exhausted. At that point I think it was his duty to try and unify the country moving forward. If that happens he's winning in a landslide this year. Maybe I'm delusional and an idealist but I have very high standards for whoever holds the office of President. No matter who is President I hope they have qualities which I consider presidential, and being able to put country above party, self and all else, is a quality I believe every candidate should have. And I don't view any of the actions taken by him leading up to and on that day to demonstrate that.

 

[Blazers46]

If your answer would be the same no matter can I get an answer because I'm really not sure where you fall on this. You're continuing deflecting the actions leading up to that day and minimizing what transpired that day to day that it was wrong and has zero place in our country.


The context of everything that he had said and the things transpired in the time leading up to the day of January 6th matters. And what Congress was set to do that matters. They weren't storming the Capitol building when it was empty. They very specifically targeted that day and timing with the goal of preventing the certification of the election results. That's matters when weighing how severe this is and what it means for our democracy.

Regarding the video, I don't view any of those statements at all in the same regarding the the words and context of Trump's speech the day. That being said none of our political leaders should ever be saying or advocating to go up and punch the president or violence against someone of a different political party. But you asking that is deflecting completely from the issue at hand and the events that happened. When I've already and very clearly stated I'm holding everyone to the same standard when it comes to this.

What am I deflecting? I’m not even sure you’ve asked a question besides saying Trump telling people to march and fight is worse than other politicians telling people to fight and carry on while they are looting and burning buildings. How about pictures of some celeb holding the severed head of Donald Trump? Probably just art to you?

“They” stormed the Capitol… Trump?

“They” very specifically targeted that day and timing with the goal, preventing the certification of the election results… Trump?

You admit others advocated violence but all you have on trump is saying march and fight and the election was rigged… which he wasn’t the first to ever do?

I have already stated my opinion. Trump deserves to be in jail for a lot of things… Jan 6 isn’t one of those. Others that advocated for Minnesota rioting and looting did the same if not more than what Trump said/did.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

What am I deflecting? I’m not even sure you’ve asked a question besides saying Trump telling people to march and fight is worse than other politicians telling people to fight and carry on while they are looting and burning buildings. How about pictures of some celeb holding the severed head of Donald Trump? Probably just art to you?

“They” stormed the Capitol… Trump?

“They” very specifically targeted that day and timing with the goal, preventing the certification of the election results… Trump?

You admit others advocated violence but all you have on trump is saying march and fight and the election was rigged… which he wasn’t the first to ever do?

I have already stated my opinion. Trump deserves to be in jail for a lot of things… Jan 6 isn’t one of those. Others that advocated for Minnesota rioting and looting did the same if not more than what Trump said/did.

The hypothetical situation about Kamala not certifying the election after I was sure of what you were asking. So I'll rephrase it. What would be your stance if Trump wins the election and Kamala decides to not certify the election? No one storms the Capitol, no violence occurs.

Obviously Trump didn't storm the Capitol, we already know he was watching it safely deciding not to make any kind of statement condemning the action of those there.

Again attempting to overturn an election and seeing a large group of your supporters storming the Capitol building and sending Congress to run for safety is a little bit different than rioting and looting in Minnesota all things considered.

And I never called for any kind of jail time for Trump for this or anything else. Simply stated I believe he should be disqualified from being president

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I never called you a democrat. I never questioned who you’re voting for and I don’t care.

You literally just said this: “You can’t and won’t name them because you are blinded by your party affiliation…”

It’s as if you’re trying to be the Bizarro Toronto.

 

[Blazers46]

The hypothetical situation about Kamala not certifying the election after I was sure of what you were asking. So I'll rephrase it. What would be your stance if Trump wins the election and Kamala decides to not certify the election? No one storms the Capitol, no violence occurs.

Obviously Trump didn't storm the Capitol, we already know he was watching it safely deciding not to make any kind of statement condemning the action of those there.

Again attempting to overturn an election and seeing a large group of your supporters storming the Capitol building and sending Congress to run for safety is a little bit different than rioting and looting in Minnesota all things considered.

And I never called for any kind of jail time for Trump for this or anything else. Simply stated I believe he should be disqualified from being president

Kamala doesn’t need to certify. Neither did Pence.

So Trump is now guilty of “standing by comfortably”…

Trump isn’t guilty of anything criminal in your opinion but in your opinion shouldn’t be allowed to run for president. Maybe we should run the country and world on opinion.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Kamala doesn’t need to certify. Neither did Pence.

So Trump is now guilty of “standing by comfortably”…

Trump isn’t guilty of anything criminal in your opinion but in your opinion shouldn’t be allowed to run for president. Maybe we should run the country and world on opinion.

I'm pretty sure I never said he wasn't guilty of anything criminal, he could be for all I know. We haven't seen enough factual evidence and I don't know the criminal code well enough to say one way of the other. I hope we get to see it play out so we can see what evidence exists. From what I've seen I clearly have made my stance clear.

I simply stated I don't think we should put him in jail and because of that I pretty much don't care if he did anything criminal as long as he wasn't comprised by a foreign country. I think it's terrible look to be prosecuting a former president and regardless if he's guilty it's a bad look for our country, and is proving to be super divisive to our country. It proves each sides rhetoric and opinions of each other and is going to continue to lead to this sort of continued rhetoric and less and less productivity from our politicians that ultimately benefits us.

Do you really want to go into what Trump was guilty of doing the full day of January 6th? To any sane person it looks someone picking a fight. I was simply stating a fact that he was watching the people he was speaking to less than an hour prior send our Congress running and delaying the certification of an election he continued to cast doubt on up until today. You know the group of people he said to "March" and "fight" to. Well they fought and 4 people died that day during that fight

 

[Irish#1]

Trump and Zelensky met.

From NBC

"We’re going to work very much with both parties to try and get this settled and get it worked out," Trump said, standing next to Zelenskyy while speaking to a small group of reporters ahead of their closed-door meeting. "It has to end. At some point, it has to end. He’s gone through hell. His country has gone through hell."

Meeting with Zelenskyy, Trump says he will negotiate a Ukraine-Russia deal 'that's good for both sides'

Trump also complained about his 2019 impeachment, which stemmed from a July 2019 phone conversation with Zelenskyy about the Bidens.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Giddyup]

I agree, none of that makes sense. I don't see how that means the Democrats are behind.

It’s called plausible deniability. The deep State(three letter departments) are one in the same with Dems if u haven’t figured it out by yet, but if you haven’t yet then you’re just willingly blind. To each his own.

 

[Blazers46]

It’s called plausible deniability. The deep State(three letter departments) are one and the same with Dems if u haven’t figured it out by yet, but if you haven’t yet then you’re just willingly blind. To each his own.

Willingly blind is hard. You almost have to willingly open your eyes because almost everyone is blinded in their own echo chambers.

 

[NorthDakota]

Pro-Ukraine accounts on Twitter (the normal ones) are admitting defeats right now. Not a great time for Joe to be authorizing future money being sent there with what's going on in a state he wants Kamala to win in (NC)

 

[calvegas04]

Pro-Ukraine accounts on Twitter (the normal ones) are admitting defeats right now. Not a great time for Joe to be authorizing future money being sent there with what's going on in a state he wants Kamala to win in (NC)

What are these normal pro Ukraine accounts? Because I follow a decent amount of accounts and have seen none of that.

 

[Giddyup]

Russia already are encircling a major Ukraine stronghold. US media is silent, to keep the war going.

 

[calvegas04]

Damnit France, why did you help the US fight for it's freedom during the Revolutionary War against mighty Great Britain?

 

[GATTACA!]

Damnit France, why did you help the US fight for it's freedom during the Revolutionary War against mighty Great Britain?

We wanted to give up but they just kept forcing us to keep fighting!

 

[Giddyup]

Lol. We’re not talking muskets and cannons. Get ready for A bombs on 1,000 cities dumbos