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stlnd01

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Urban seems to spend a lot of time lately talking about his days as an assistant coach here 30 years ago.

But, sorry, nope to him. I want to win too but not the way he does it. Also I do wonder if he'd be as successful in this NIL/transfer era. It's not just about winning in the living room of a high school kid, you've got to keep them believing in you for years. And he's no kid anymore.
 

JoeyGetherall

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Urban seems to spend a lot of time lately talking about his days as an assistant coach here 30 years ago.

But, sorry, nope to him. I want to win too but not the way he does it. Also I do wonder if he'd be as successful in this NIL/transfer era. It's not just about winning in the living room of a high school kid, you've got to keep them believing in you for years. And he's no kid anymore.
The way he does it , is not dissimilar from the way Smart, Saban, Harbaugh or Swinney operate. You need to be in order to win big. Urban had Aaron Hernandez at UF so a lot has been rehashed over time. What happened there is not that much different then happens at Bama, FSU , UGA , Texas etc. Im sure UGA will have there own docs once Kirby leaves. If we want choir boys to coach , then thats ok, but then drop the championship talk.
 

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Does Urban want to coach again, he seemed to give zero effort in his last coaching job in the NFL
 

thekid33

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Does Urban want to coach again, he seemed to give zero effort in his last coaching job in the NFL
Some guys aren't cut out for the NFL. And it's usually college guys. You are used to being the King and having a schedule that has some guaranteed wins. You get to the NFL and the guys in that locker room don't give a shit if you won a natty and the guys in the other locker room really don't give a shit.

But, in college that guy can still be a good coach as far as X's and O's.

I don't know if he'd adjust to the portal and NIL.

But, the coaching part....he'd be just fine.
 

Terry Jillery

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Urban seems to spend a lot of time lately talking about his days as an assistant coach here 30 years ago.

But, sorry, nope to him. I want to win too but not the way he does it. Also I do wonder if he'd be as successful in this NIL/transfer era. It's not just about winning in the living room of a high school kid, you've got to keep them believing in you for years. And he's no kid anymore.
I agree with your first paragraph.
 

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Notre Dame is usually 5 years behind the curve of the top programs so it wouldn’t surprise me if we finally get Urban when he’s well past his prime.
 

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I get ND. I've had so many personal connections to the school over the years... and now with my homie Father Bob running the show, it's hit its peak.

BUT

I'm a Southshore Alum (not to mention a former opponent on the court). All I care about is being elite and winning it all. That has always led me to believe that paying Saban or Urban Can't Say No money is the way to accomplish that goal.
 

Irish du Nord

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I get ND. I've had so many personal connections to the school over the years... and now with my homie Father Bob running the show, it's hit its peak.

BUT

I'm a Southshore Alum (not to mention a former opponent on the court). All I care about is being elite and winning it all. That has always led me to believe that paying Saban Can't Say No money is the way to accomplish that goal.
FIFY
 

JoeyGetherall

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Urban "I'm Irish Catholic, I love Notre Dame, I would go there in a minute."

Goes on to say he took Florida job because he could recruit close to home and be around for growing children. Well that ain't a problem now folks... 👀

 

JoeyGetherall

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Bob Chesney is a person to keep an eye on. Late 40s East Coast Catholic guy. Has been Head Ball Coach at Salve Regina, Assumption, Holy Cross and now JMU. Every progrum he has been at has gotten better and has 71% overall winning percentage. JMU just put a walloping on UNC 70-50 at UNC.

 

Jiggafini19Deux

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I'm a fan of Bob Chesney. Put him on a shortlist for Northwestern last year during the summer when all the Fitz stuff went down. JMU was a great choice for him. Cignetti left JMU in great shape post Covid. Chesney can thrive there and flip himself to a P4 job. He's followed a natural progression on his resume too. Hasn't gotten too big too fast.
 

Jiggafini19Deux

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He'd be my top choice if the Freeman/ND relationship ends.

I'd also take a look at Jonathan Smith long-term if he can turn around MSU into a respectable program again, because he took over an absolute dumpster fire.
Gary Andersen didn't exactly leave him champagne at Oregon State either.

Smith played for and coached with Dennis Erickson. Also coached with Chris Petersen. Good offensive pedigree.
 

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Gary Andersen didn't exactly leave him champagne at Oregon State either.

Smith played for and coached with Dennis Erickson. Also coached with Chris Petersen. Good offensive pedigree.

Yup. He also builds his teams from the trenches out, which I love, and I do think his offensive system would fit perfectly at ND. And you're right, the Oregon State turnaround was terrific. I think he might still be there if the PAC-12 hadn't imploded.

All that said...I still think Cignetti would be my top choice. I hope it doesn't come to that, and CMF gets this thing right, but Cignetti is just an all-around terrific coach.
 

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Yup. He also builds his teams from the trenches out, which I love, and I do think his offensive system would fit perfectly at ND. And you're right, the Oregon State turnaround was terrific. I think he might still be there if the PAC-12 hadn't imploded.

All that said...I still think Cignetti would be my top choice. I hope it doesn't come to that, and CMF gets this thing right, but Cignetti is just an all-around terrific coach.
I like them both.

Leipold is still my guy, though.
 

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Freeman isn't going anywhere, if anything they would bring in more support staff. The issue is more about preparation than anything, the talent has been upgraded and if anything Washington might get a job after this year so we would need a big time DL coach. A good move would be to bring in a guy to be an assistant to the head coach that's sole purpose is game week prep and organization. Someone who is a veteran head coach that is looking for a step down in the recruiting workload. I think people really need to understand that we need stability more than anything else, Denbrock's offense next year will be much better in year 2 and Gino will finally be able to be evaluated through Angelli, Carr, or Minchey.
 

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Freeman isn't going anywhere, if anything they would bring in more support staff. The issue is more about preparation than anything, the talent has been upgraded and if anything Washington might get a job after this year so we would need a big time DL coach. A good move would be to bring in a guy to be an assistant to the head coach that's sole purpose is game week prep and organization. Someone who is a veteran head coach that is looking for a step down in the recruiting workload. I think people really need to understand that we need stability more than anything else, Denbrock's offense next year will be much better in year 2 and Gino will finally be able to be evaluated through Angelli, Carr, or Minchey.

would be very hard to mesh a guy like that with Anthony Threash, the analytics guy MF already has in his ear on the sidelines every game. You can't really sit between two stools and MF seems to be going the analytics route for now. He has Tressel as his mentor im sure he calls him all the time to discuss things and get feedback etc
 

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would be very hard to mesh a guy like that with Anthony Threash, the analytics guy MF already has in his ear on the sidelines every game. You can't really sit between two stools and MF seems to be going the analytics route for now. He has Tressel as his mentor im sure he calls him all the time to discuss things and get feedback etc
thats thing he would be focused on prep and just be the player guy on gamedays. Think Big Dom in philly but more of a Veteran Coach type.
 

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I like them both.

Leipold is still my guy, though.

My biggest concern with Leipold is the struggles KU has had since his OC took the Penn State job.

Not saying LL isn't a terrific coach, but Kotelniecki has been with him since 2013, and Kansas has looked very, very bad without him.
 

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My biggest concern with Leipold is the struggles KU has had since his OC took the Penn State job.

Not saying LL isn't a terrific coach, but Kotelniecki has been with him since 2013, and Kansas has looked very, very bad without him.
This is very fair. I assume Leipold could try to get him to come back with him if he moves again.

Leipold did go out and get Jeff Grimes to replace Kotelniecki. He won a Broyles Award at Baylor and then got the shaft after 2023. For KU Football, that's a pretty good hire all things considered.

Hypothetically, Leipold could certainly lure Kotelniecki from PSU to ND if that scenario were to occur. It's still Notre Dame. There are options.
 
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