Presidential Election 2024

[GATTACA!]

So then how are we supposed to feel about JD Vance and ask the other Republicans that said they would never support Trump to only 4 years later all publicly backing him and saying how great he is?

But but but

 

[drayer54]

So then how are we supposed to feel about JD Vance and ask the other Republicans that said they would never support Trump to only 4 years later all publicly backing him and saying how great he is?

You are seriously comparing support for a person 8 years ago switching to someone flipping their positions (supposedly) on every major issue when being appointed the nominee for President? Positions which are leaked through aides, because you can’t show me her platform or policy pages. Kamala was the one who called out Joe for the racist shit on the debate stage and then became VP. You’ve got a hell of a drug.

 

[ab2cmiller]

So then how are we supposed to feel about JD Vance and ask the other Republicans that said they would never support Trump to only 4 years later all publicly backing him and saying how great he is?

It is concerning. He's the VP candidate. Kamala's the Presidential candidate. That deserves a bit more attention.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

You are seriously comparing support for a person 8 years ago switching to someone flipping their positions (supposedly) on every major issue when being appointed the nominee for President? Positions which are leaked through aides, because you can’t show me her platform or policy pages. Kamala was the one who called out Joe for the racist shit on the debate stage and then became VP. You’ve got a hell of a drug.

I'm talking about from 4 years ago and not just Vance but other Republicans. And Vance changed his views within 6 years when he ran for Senate as a maga Republican. Again kamala's views on fracking being bad for the environment haven't changed just how she thinks we should accomplish reducing our reliance on it

 

[ColoradoIrish]

What about Trump flip flopping on gay rights? Abortion? Are people not allowed to grow and change their views?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

It is concerning. He's the VP candidate. Kamala's the Presidential candidate. That deserves a bit more attention.

So we should hold potential presidents to higher standards? Because I've been told by a bunch of Trump supporters that doesn't matter

 

[TorontoGold]

But but but

BUT I DON"T LIKE HIM!

"I don't like dishonest media!"

****AsTheWorldBurnz posts just hyperbole insane shit****

"Well, this must be true!!!"

You guys don't hate the media enough!!! L o L

 

[ulukinatme]

So we should hold potential presidents to higher standards? Because I've been told by a bunch of Trump supporters that doesn't matter

Clearly this country doesn't hold our Presidents to higher standards. Look at the recent winning candidates in each party the last x number of years.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Clearly this country doesn't hold our Presidents to higher standards. Look at the recent winning candidates in each party the last x number of years.

Couldn't agree more and that's why I said as much yesterday.

 

[GATTACA!]

It’s almost like being vice president for four years might have changed her mind on some things.

I wonder what made Vance stop thinking Trump is America’s Hitler lolol.

 

[Irish#1]

BUT I DON"T LIKE HIM!

"I don't like dishonest media!"

****AsTheWorldBurnz posts just hyperbole insane shit****

"Well, this must be true!!!"

You guys don't hate the media enough!!! L o L

I’ll give you credit. You never miss a cue.

 

[Irish#1]

It’s almost like being vice president for four years might have changed her mind on some things.

I wonder what made Vance stop thinking Trump is America’s Hitler lolol.

How convenient that it took four years and an ouster of Joe! Lol

 

[Irish#1]

Anyone watch that interview? I read CNN edited about 13 minutes out and weren’t going to release the transcript. Is that correct?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Anyone watch that interview? I read CNN edited about 13 minutes out and weren’t going to release the transcript. Is that correct?

I watched it. Was curious to see if she was going to give any insight on her policies. I heard the same things, would really love to see an unedited version. Walz didn't answer anything besides direct questions about the whole carry guns in war thing. I felt like it didn't really reveal much besides the part I mentioned on fracking

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Are we still on the flip flopping for candidates is a bad look? Asking cause Trump flipped his opinion on Florida's abortion measure in 24 hours

 

[ulukinatme]

It’s almost like being vice president for four years might have changed her mind on some things.

I wonder what made Vance stop thinking Trump is America’s Hitler lolol.

Probably more like bait and switch. Change your policies to appeal more to moderates, switch back after the election. Seems like lots of candidates do this. For instance, Kamala is backtracking on a fracking ban now, but I expect she'll stick to the plan and keep it in effect if she's in office.

 

[drayer54]

Probably more like bait and switch. Change your policies to appeal more to moderates, switch back after the election. Seems like lots of candidates do this. For instance, Kamala is backtracking on a fracking ban now, but I expect she'll stick to the plan and keep it in effect if she's in office.

Right- switching your opinion on every major issue while refusing to write down a platform is in no way comparable to switching support on a candidate 8 years later. Harris doesn’t actually hold these moderate views all of the sudden, and if she does, clearly she will run back to the woke cliff with a win.

 

[Irish#1]

Right- switching your opinion on every major issue while refusing to write down a platform is in no way comparable to switching support on a candidate 8 years later. Harris doesn’t actually hold these moderate views all of the sudden, and if she does, clearly she will run back to the woke cliff with a win.

They’re both doing it, which isn’t surprising and it’s nothing more than to garner votes. Harris not releasing her platform should be a concern for every voter.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Right- switching your opinion on every major issue while refusing to write down a platform is in no way comparable to switching support on a candidate 8 years later. Harris doesn’t actually hold these moderate views all of the sudden, and if she does, clearly she will run back to the woke cliff with a win.

What about Trump consistently flipping about policies he stands on?

Tracking Donald Trump's flip-flops

NBC News is tracking Trump's new policy pronouncements. Here are the issues that he's flip-flopped on.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/22/trump-policy-flip-flop-00164538

What about other politicians like Mitch McConnell and other Republicans that have switched their views on Trump within 4 years? This is him talking about Trump's culpability for January 6th and his role in it. McConnell has stated he didn't vote to impeach him because his term was over and he didn't to impeach him because Trump was already removed from office.

Kamal has specifically said and recently, that her view on fracking hasn't changed and that it's bad for environment and climate but that way to accomplish the goal of being less reliant on it has. She doesn't believe it banning it but by creating green energy jobs which would then reduce our reliance on fracking. Maybe in just naive but to me that shows more growth and ability to pivot her thinking than just flip flopping.

 

[drayer54]

What about Trump consistently flipping about policies he stands on?

Tracking Donald Trump's flip-flops

NBC News is tracking Trump's new policy pronouncements. Here are the issues that he's flip-flopped on.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/22/trump-policy-flip-flop-00164538

What about other politicians like Mitch McConnell and other Republicans that have switched their views on Trump within 4 years? This is him talking about Trump's culpability for January 6th and his role in it. McConnell has stated he didn't vote to impeach him because his term was over and he didn't to impeach him because Trump was already removed from office.

Kamal has specifically said and recently, that her view on fracking hasn't changed and that it's bad for environment and climate but that way to accomplish the goal of being less reliant on it has. She doesn't believe it banning it but by creating green energy jobs which would then reduce our reliance on fracking. Maybe in just naive but to me that shows more growth and ability to pivot her thinking than just flip flopping.

Imagine it is 2020, Trump is impeached and removed- Mike Pence is moved into the nominee box.

Pence then suddenly drops all position references online and announced he’s pro-LGBT, pro-choice, open to raising taxes, open to gun-control, and going to prioritize climate change legislation- then he does one interview with veep there to help him speak on these new found views- would you believe them to be sincere?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Imagine it is 2020, Trump is impeached and removed- Mike Pence is moved into the nominee box.

Pence then suddenly drops all position references online and announced he’s pro-LGBT, pro-choice, open to raising taxes, open to gun-control, and going to prioritize climate change legislation- then he does one interview with veep there to help him speak on these new found views- would you believe them to be sincere?

Walz didn't help her at all, he only spoke when directly asked a question to clarify his statement on military service. She again said she believes we need to make our reliance on fracking smaller and stated how she would do that. The rest of her positions I'm not the biggest fan or unclear with where she stands or how she plans to accomplish anything. Which is much more of a concern to me. I've stated multiple times I'm not a big fan of hers and I'm voting against Trump for 1 personal reason and the second reason is because I truly believe he's responsible for January 6th, he still claims the election was stolen. I truly believe he is absolutely terrible for our democracy and that he doesn't respect it

 

[drayer54]

Walz didn't help her at all, he only spoke when directly asked a question to clarify his statement on military service. She again said she believes we need to make our reliance on fracking smaller and stated how she would do that. The rest of her positions I'm not the biggest fan or unclear with where she stands or how she plans to accomplish anything. Which is much more of a concern to me. I've stated multiple times I'm not a big fan of hers and I'm voting against Trump for 1 personal reason and the second reason is because I truly believe he's responsible for January 6th, he still claims the election was stolen. I truly believe he is absolutely terrible for our democracy and that he doesn't respect it

Of course you are not clear- she has no platform. The point is she has been to the left of Sanders and Warren and all of the sudden says she is not anymore and nobody believes it. Especially when all of your views evolve within a week and it’s leaked through aides, it’s a joke.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Of course you are not clear- she has no platform. The point is she has been to the left of Sanders and Warren and all of the sudden says she is not anymore and nobody believes it. Especially when all of your views evolve within a week and it’s leaked through aides, it’s a joke.

Cool story enjoy the Irish win. I've made it clear why I'm voting for her and why I'll continue to call Trump out. Have a good night dude!

 

[NDVirginia19]

Despicable

 

[Bishop2b5]

Despicable

He doesn't know what he thinks about the killing. The polls on it haven't been analyzed yet.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

And I think Trump very clearly has a cognitive decline, but it's common for anyone of his age. To me it's pretty clear during his speeches. He routinely goes on tangents, he will sometimes get lost in what he was saying but he's more there than Biden and is able to come back to his original thought. But to say he isn't goes against the science for anyone of that age

Rambling on like a fucking lunatic? Yeah, it's part of his charm at this point.

His running mate isn't much better and he's forty fucking years old.

 

[Irish#1]

Despicable

Not surprised. Could have at least said it’s a tragedy.

 

[drayer54]

Rambling on like a fucking lunatic? Yeah, it's part of his charm at this point.

His running mate isn't much better and he's forty fucking years old.

Did you see the gold star families video responses? Cotton laid it out well on the left-wing Sunday show-


Just occured to me- you prob have no idea being in the left wing bubble- here's just a few

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twitter.com

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Biden and Kamala should have been there and shown support if they were invited. But stop with narrative of Trump was asked by the families to take photos. That's not the issue at hand, and arguing about that completely ignores the real issue. He's filmed video and then used says video for campaign fodder. His campaign posted the video to his social media sites and is clearly being used a mini campaign commercial. Comparing himself to Kamala. When asked about the video, he says he didn't know the rules of Arlington, then shifted to blame the families for releasing the video and then said he had no idea who posted them on his page. That's the issue. Not that he was there taking photos flashing thumbs up signs next to the headstone of fallen soldiers. But the video he made to campaign with and then his BS response to that.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Biden and Kamala should have been there and shown support if they were invited. But stop with narrative of Trump was asked by the families to take photos. That's not the issue at hand, and arguing about that completely ignores the real issue. He's filmed video and then used says video for campaign fodder. His campaign posted the video to his social media sites and is clearly being used a mini campaign commercial. Comparing himself to Kamala. When asked about the video, he says he didn't know the rules of Arlington, then shifted to blame the families for releasing the video and then said he had no idea who posted them on his page. That's the issue. Not that he was there taking photos flashing thumbs up signs next to the headstone of fallen soldiers. But the video he made to campaign with and then his BS response to that.

I’m curious, why do you think there was no outrage when Obama and Biden both used Arlington Cemetery footage for campaign promotion materials and ads?