Presidential Election 2024

[dublinirish]

run it back lol

 

[NDVirginia19]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/russ-vought-project-2025-trump-secret-recording-invs/index.html

Also good time to point out that Kamala Harris prosecuted people for undercover filming of Planned Parenthood officials who were selling baby organs.

 

[GATTACA!]

Is it at all surprising to you that a Conservative Think Tank drafts executive orders to immediately be implemented on the first days of a President's term? Do you think the President and his team prepares all of them on their own?

Yesterday you told us Trump had absolutely nothing to do with Project 2025 lol.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Yesterday you told us Trump had absolutely nothing to do with Project 2025 lol.

Someone here gets it lol

 

[NDVirginia19]

Yesterday you told us Trump had absolutely nothing to do with Project 2025 lol.

I've never claimed it but it's true. He personally did not direct it or write the thing, but this is literally what Think Tanks exist to do. They write and advocate for policy proposals, and when a President is elected who aligns with that think tank, they staff the administration. And then when the other side wins, they go back to writing for the think tank. It's not some insidious Hydra operation like you guys characterize it to be. When Joe Biden showed up day one, he had plenty of appointees from think tanks and EOs drafted by think tanks

 

[ColoradoIrish]

There's more and more direct ties between Trump and the policies in project 2025 and you keep saying that the policies won't be implemented. But the evidence points to the contrary. All we're doing is drawing attention to that

 

[calvegas04]

What We Know About Trump’s Link To Project 2025—As Author Claims Ex-President ‘Blessed It’ In Secret Recording

An author of Project 2025 told undercover reporters the ex-president is "very supportive of what we do."

www.forbes.com

 

[NDVirginia19]

Most of what I have claimed is that 1) there is nothing nefarious about how Heritage operates regarding Presidential transition, it is how all think tanks work in DC, 2) Trump himself really had no part in drafting it, and he himself is not some uber conservative guy. Those policy proposals will probably cross his desk and he may or may not sign them, but if Trump was someone more like Rubio or Cruz they would implement a lot more of it and 3) Most of what people claim is in Project 2025 isn't actually in it and they just regurgitate what the media tells them it will do without actually reading it

 

[Greenore]

Thank you. I just wanted to highlight that there are bad faith actors out there that damage the message of well meaning people (you), but we can see just on this forum that only you identified this as transphobic whereas there are others here who claim to have nothing wrong with post-18 transitions.

The ego of this post is absolutely astonishing. Who are you and what are your qualifications to be IE's moral compass? In Canadian law, silence is not consent. I suspect it is similar in the U.S. You asked some questions and didn't get the number of replies you wanted. By your logic, anyone that didn't reply is transphobic? I am not going to be so bold as to speak for other members but I see a difference in respecting an issue/person vs supporting an issue/person.

Again, in my own opinion, you like to paint with a very wide brush.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[NDVirginia19]

Simply donkey brained economic policy

 

[TorontoGold]

The ego of this post is absolutely astonishing. Who are you and what are your qualifications to be IE's moral compass? In Canadian law, silence is not consent. I suspect it is similar in the U.S. You asked some questions and didn't get the number of replies you wanted. By your logic, anyone that didn't reply is transphobic? I am not going to be so bold as to speak for other members but I see a difference in respecting an issue/person vs supporting an issue/person.

Again, in my own opinion, you like to paint with a very wide brush.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

You love to sit on the sidelines and then jump in without any sort of understanding, it's astonishing really. You'll never post original thoughts just "Hey there bud, you are a big meanie and wrong!".

I responded to a post from a few days ago that claimed no one had an issue with adults transitioning, just wanted to see if #1 would be consistent with his previous post. I have been @'d multiple times to respond to something, so please spare me the outrage.

In my own opinion, you don't really understand what you're responding to.

 

[calvegas04]

Simply donkey brained economic policy

I don't like Harris but what is wrong with banning price gouging?

 

[NDVirginia19]

I don't like Harris but what is wrong with banning price gouging?

The increase of food prices is largely affected by increased gas prices. Everything from fertilizer to the gas for their machinery to the gas required to transport the crops has greatly increased, meaning that food itself will greatly increase in cost. There is absolutely no evidence of price gouging in grocery stores in America, and if you price fix the food market, you will end up with food shortages in the country or more and more farmers having to file for bankruptcy. Price fixing never works. It hasn't worked anywhere in the past and it won't work here in America now. Unless you like food rations and bread lines.

Giving a $25K subsidy for home buyers is also a fucking stupid policy. Guess what: homes are all $25K more expensive and you havent solved anything. You see the exact same effect in higher education costs and federal loans for students.

 

[Greenore]

You love to sit on the sidelines and then jump in without any sort of understanding, it's astonishing really. You'll never post original thoughts just "Hey there bud, you are a big meanie and wrong!".

I responded to a post from a few days ago that claimed no one had an issue with adults transitioning, just wanted to see if #1 would be consistent with his previous post. I have been @'d multiple times to respond to something, so please spare me the outrage.

In my own opinion, you don't really understand what you're responding to.

I see.

So when you posted "Not trying to target you - just using your point as "no one this board is against trans changes if acted upon properly"." to #1, in actuality, you were trying to target him? That seems disingenuous.

And you are absolutely correct in your opinion that I really don't understand what I'm responding to, particularly when it comes to Vortex posts, rationale and "reasoning", I wear that as a badge of honor. Best of luck.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[TorontoGold]

I see.

So when you posted "Not trying to target you - just using your point as "no one this board is against trans changes if acted upon properly"." to #1, in actuality, you were trying to target him? That seems disingenuous.

And you are absolutely correct in your opinion that I really don't understand what I'm responding to, particularly when it comes to Vortex posts, rationale and "reasoning", I wear that as a badge of honor. Best of luck.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

It was a general question that should be easy to answer? I only used his post as a jump off point for anyone to answer. I figured that a few would correctly call it out. But you're just....doing whatever this is so bang up job lol!

 

[Irish#1]

Then why not just say it's transphobic, it's a lay up and many here don't even want to say that.

The way you phrase it is baiting. It’s damn if you do, damn if you don’t.

 

[TorontoGold]

The way you phrase it is baiting. It’s damn if you do, damn if you don’t.

Ok - was Matt Walsh being transphobic in his post.

 

[Irish#1]

Ok - was Matt Walsh being transphobic in his post.

Dude, I already answered.

I’ve stated numerous times that I am fine with people transitioning if they want to as long as they are of age. If you don’t believe me, that’s on you, not me.

 

[drayer54]

First policy proposal from the Harris campaign and it's a complete fucking disaster. Lmao

Price controls have done wonders. To be fair, this has been. Subtly floated in the last few years by other Dems. Its very on brand.


Also-

 

[TorontoGold]

Dude, I already answered.

I’ve stated numerous times that I am fine with people transitioning if they want to as long as they are of age. If you don’t believe me, that’s on you, not me.

Ok so Matt Walsh's post was transphobic then. Thank you.

 

[ulukinatme]

I don't like Harris but what is wrong with banning price gouging?

I think the question is, how do they plan on regulating that? How are they going to set prices? Seems like a pipe dream, a carrot that they probably can't deliver on to lead people to the polls.

The 25k to first time homeowners seems like a good idea on paper, but it'll absolutely drive the market prices up. It's basically no different than when the government started giving out thousands during the pandemic. It'll lead to more inflation. You're artificially creating more demand while supply is still low, prices go up. It'll end up offsetting the free money they're giving away. Not only that, but when Obama offered the $8k to first time homebuyers 15 years ago we saw people cheating the system for the cash, putting their kids on the deed so they could get the money. You'll absolutely see more of that if $25k is up for grabs.

 

[drayer54]

I think the question is, how do they plan on regulating that? How are they going to set prices? Seems like a pipe dream, a carrot that they probably can't deliver on to lead people to the polls.

The 25k to first time homeowners seems like a good idea on paper, but it'll absolutely drive the market prices up. It's basically no different than when the government started giving out thousands during the pandemic. It'll lead to more inflation. You're artificially creating more demand while supply is still low, prices go up. It'll end up offsetting the free money they're giving away. Not only that, but when Obama offered the $8k to first time homebuyers 15 years ago we saw people cheating the system for the cash, putting their kids on the deed so they could get the money. You'll absolutely see more of that if $25k is up for grabs.

Handing out cash for houses is going to lower prices just like handing out cash for student loans lowered the price of college.

 

[calvegas04]

I think the question is, how do they plan on regulating that? How are they going to set prices? Seems like a pipe dream, a carrot that they probably can't deliver on to lead people to the polls.

The 25k to first time homeowners seems like a good idea on paper, but it'll absolutely drive the market prices up. It's basically no different than when the government started giving out thousands during the pandemic. It'll lead to more inflation. You're artificially creating more demand while supply is still low, prices go up. It'll end up offsetting the free money they're giving away. Not only that, but when Obama offered the $8k to first time homebuyers 15 years ago we saw people cheating the system for the cash, putting their kids on the deed so they could get the money. You'll absolutely see more of that if $25k is up for grabs.

Okay I agree some of that may not work.

The same with Trump not wanting to tax senior citizens and no tax on tips

 

[GoIrish41]

We finally have a policy position out of the Kamala camp… a literally straight up copy paste of Trump’s no tax on tip proposal lmao

Except her policy aids service workers only and not corporate execs who restructure their bonuses and other compensation as tips.

 

[ulukinatme]

Okay I agree some of that may not work.

The same with Trump not wanting to tax senior citizens and no tax on tips

Yeah, I'm fairly certain the tip tax is another phony promise, but I'm intrigued that Kamala went all in on it too.

 

[Irish#1]

Ok so Matt Walsh's post was transphobic then. Thank you.

You couldn't figure it out because I used the word prejudice instead of Transphobic?

adjective

1. having or showing a dislike of or strong prejudice against transgender people.
   "bullying is commonly underpinned by sexist, homophobic, or transphobic attitudes"

 

[Irish#1]

Okay I agree some of that may not work.

The same with Trump not wanting to tax senior citizens and no tax on tips

I don't know what the revenue loss would be for either, but it seems the loss wouldn't be that great if they stopped taxing tips. Especially when it's a common practice not to report all of your tips on your return.

It would be very difficult to put something in place on groceries prices. The graph above illustrates the slim profit margin which has historically been between 1% - 3% going back at least to the 90's. Probably even earlier.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Except her policy aids service workers only and not corporate execs who restructure their bonuses and other compensation as tips.

Oh does it? Does she have it spelled out where it says that? Because currently there are zero policies spelled out on her campaign website and she hasn't taken any questions from the media.

 

[NDVirginia19]

This is truly incredible, she is incapable of coming up with any genuine new ideas other than communism and copying what Trump and Vance come up with

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Not an economist, but if both sides continue to just throw printed money at problems, instead of actually fix the root causes, we are so fucked as a country.