'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
Auburn
Bama
Colorado
Georgia
Indiana
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Mississippi St
Oregon
Ole Miss
S Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Tulsa
USF
Vandy
Va Tech
Washington
FAMU
JSU
SoMiss

Deuce Knight on Hudl

Watch Deuce Knight's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: George County High School - Boys' Varsity Basketball / PG / Class of 2025 / Lucedale, MS

www.hudl.com

 

[a mike]

I stand by my takes and don’t protest them. I said nothing about poverty. I talked about the temptation of life changing money, while you were busy virtue signaling on the board. Gross.

Your sentiment was clear from your original post that was highlighted. To wit--You feel people from the southern region of the country will have more difficulty passing up "life changing money" and "jobs" because they either lack the self discipline or foresight to do whats actually best for them (in your opinion which is they should forego the money and attend ND and if not well its just they don't have good parental influence) so ND probably won't be able to get any of them.

You may have had some cover if not for the bolded statements I highlighted where you definitely strayed far off from what you're trying to walk back now as "But no I actually meant everyone does this"

At least stand your ground and don't walk it back.

Observing distasteful comments and sentiments that another person is conveying and commenting on them is just calling a spade a spade.

There's a reason why my post received a specific call out/response from you. It hit too hard at home for your own actual internal belief system and your cognitive dissonance starting spinning out of control that "No, I'm a good person. I didn't actually convey what he's saying I did in that other post of mine." and so you were compelled to respond to resolve your own personal internal strife.

 

[INLaw]

Been a NOTRE Dame fan since birth I guess. My Dad bought a NOTRE Dame onesie for me to wear home from the hospital. My Grandpa attended ND until the war & when he got back home, he didn’t go back to college. We lived in Chicago but moved to Mississippi because my Mother was from ‘tha Sip’. Up until the past 10 years or so, I am not too sure there were double digit ND fans in MS. I had to order all of my ND stuff. Hahaha! Not easy being an Irish fan in the heart of sec country without a few arguments, some more violent than others as I got older.
One of my favorite memories is when Coach Holtz did a luncheon to raise money for the local Boys & Girls Club in Tupelo, MS. I still say that was the best $100 I have ever spent! That man has a way of captivating an audience!!! So, to answer your question, yes, I am a die hard, lifelong Notre Dame fan. I hav to say though, in my late teens it was tough. That’s when ND experimented with a very successful high school coach as their new head coach. I think I got my first ulcer during Coach Faust’s reign.
I don’t post a lot because I am so far from ND and most of the time have no recruit insight, but I love reading this site. I used to get on the 4 horseman’s lounge, but I messed up by asking a question after I had been away from all the college football news due to a death in my family. Man o man, those folks on there called me everything but a child of GOD! I posted why I had asked and provided the link that I had just read that made me have the question. I the. explained I didn’t know that had come out and been solved because my sister, her husband, and two children were hit by a drunk driver. Lost my sister, brother-in-law, and youngest child (my neice) instantly & my nephew held on for 9 days. I have not gotten back on that forum and will not. A couple of sicko’s made some horrible remarks about my sister & her family. I haven’t seen that on here thank goodness!!!

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I just wanted to give a little background so maybe you guys wouldn’t go 4 horsemen lounge on me & might see I am actually a fan.

My Best to All & GO IRISH!!!!

We wont run you off. But for a board full of doctors, lawyers, executives and ughhh accountants we do fuss at each other pretty hard and cuss a lot. I recommend staying out of the political threads and avoid the koon socks and alts and you will be just fine.

 

[Ndaccountant]

We wont run you off. But for a board full of doctors, lawyers, executives and ughhh accountants we do fuss at each other pretty hard and cuss a lot. I recommend staying out of the political threads and avoid the koon socks and alts and you will be just fine.

 

[IrishLion]

He has the same amount of sources Singer has

Disagree, he's got at least one more source than Singer since Dublin visits IE and Singer doesn't

 

[Poopsie]

I would like Deuce on the squad but I'm not going to lose sleep if ultimately he decides to go elsewhere. Go Irish!

 

[Irish5Saint]

Ryan Roberts just posted he doesn’t see a decision happening this weekend. Knight was targeting the 30th as the time to make a final decision.

Maybe we should get him to push for September 1st?

 

[a mike]

First of all, I never said I was a “good person” neither in my head nor on this forum, so spare me the bs armchair psychology you are well known for here.

I’m also not walking back anything I said. My main point was don’t mislabel the board as stating money being the sole reason for if Deuce chooses to flip by stating how gross that is as though you are a moral exemplar here.

When speaking of the south, I was speaking of the vastly different culture than what the midwest presents, of which I am very familiar with. I was also speaking of the tremendous power that southern football (SEC territory) has on the influence of young athletes in the sport, particularly in terms of familiarity, access, and yes, big time money.

Also, I said NOTHING of how ND is the better take in this scenario. In fact, I expressed the opposite in that what is often presented by other schools is much more palatable on multiple fronts for many athletes and their families. I’m the last person to state that ND is the end-all be-all for anyone, as much as I value many aspects of the university. Nor would I judge anyone for choosing what is best and most logical for them.

The take was more than reasonable and was not the gross things you are trying to mislabel it as.

Anyway, carry on being you.

Deuce will decide what is best for him according to what makes the most sense in his world. But best believe Auburn is throwing the kitchen sink at him, and he’ll have to decide if that’s truly everything he wants.

I didn't even call you out with my original post or name names. I was merely speaking in vague generalities.

Frankly when you responded to my post I wasn't sure if you were even the muse, but given you were triggered--at that point I suspected as much. A cursory review of your recent posting history confirmed my suspicion.

Again, the fact that you felt compelled to responded direct, especially absent me having in any way directly implicated you in my original post--is/was the tell for your cognitive dissonance on the topic and also resulting further self-incrimination of how you feel about a certain sect of the country's population/demographics

Obviously you don't literally/directly call yourself a good or bad person in your head--it's more of a subconscious dialogue that results in conscious actions such that you manifested out into the world.

Please DM me if you want to further work out your subconscious. Or we can do it in front of everyone if you would prefer (although I wouldn't recommend) but not sure the board would like us to stray so far off topic.

 

[NDPhilly]

Fact that we got him to push is a minor win in and of itself

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Just read an interesting post from a coach in Alabama talking about the Deuce situation with Auburn. Apparently Auburn is offering a substantial upfront payment but not much has been offered down the road. The financial offer from ND is much more contractually oriented with Deuce being offered more over time with incentives, etc. but with the clear potential to earn him more. ND is saying “Deuce, bet on yourself” and Auburn is throwing upfront money to get him in the door. This is the scuttlebutt. The poster also said ND apparently has a much better overall offer that is clear but there is some pressure around Deuce to take the quick money. Not really too surprising and pretty tough for a small town kid to process.

 

[NDPhilly]

If you’re going to break the seal of upfront payments, this is the type of rare player you do it for. Highest upside of any QB in the class, heisman and #1 overall pick potential.

I get not wanting to set a precedent, but this isn’t any high 4 star kid that we are jockeying for. This is an elite talent at by far the most important position.

 

[Irish5Saint]

If you’re going to break the seal of upfront payments, this is the type of rare player you do it for. Highest upside of any QB in the class, heisman and #1 overall pick potential.

I get not wanting to set a precedent, but this isn’t any high 4 star kid that we are jockeying for. This is an elite talent at by far the most important position.

Thing is, how high do you have to go with that upfront payment? You can’t be robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[IrishLion]

Thing is, how high do you have to go with that upfront payment? You can’t be robbing Peter to pay Paul.

I’ve got no inside info directly about this situation…

But ND wouldn’t be falling short elsewhere if they decided to drop an upfront bag to land Deuce.

If that dam broke, there would of course be a reasonable “limit” as to what the heavy hitters would contribute for a single class of athletes… but that limit wouldn’t be so low that landing Deuce causes a waterfall effect.

 

[NeuroSelection]

According to this article, Auburn pushed for an immediate decision, which Deuce wasn't ready for and they may have moved on, or even burnt the bridge between them to some extent. I'm not entirely sure, but it looks like good news for ND, for now. It doesn't speak to whether they'll keep Deuce in the long run though.

https://atozsports.com/college-football/notre-dame-fighting-irish-news/auburn-pursuit-of-2025-notre-dame-quarterback-deuce-knight-takes-strange-turn/

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I’ve got no inside info directly about this situation…

But ND wouldn’t be falling short elsewhere if they decided to drop an upfront bag to land Deuce.

Read that as
Drop a duece

 

[BoredIrish]

So on the flip side, if Deuce does stick with ND does that put to rest the notion the MF isn't a significant upgrade over BK as a recruiter?

You can't criticize him for not closing and then not praise him if he does.

 

[ulukinatme]

So on the flip side, if Deuce does stick with ND does that put to rest the notion the MF isn't a significant upgrade over BK as a recruiter?

You can't criticize him for not closing and then not praise him if he does.

From a recruiting perspective, I think that would solidify Freeman as superior. It remains to be seen if Freeman has the X's and O's advantage (Denbrock could shore up that deficiency from last year). I think Freeman understands the culture better and has gone all in there, something Kelly lacked a bit. So far I think Freeman has struggled in some big games when it came to execution and adjustments, something Kelly also struggled with, but he's made improvements since Year 1. Hopefully we won't have anymore Marshall debacles, and no more personnel issues like OSU last year. I think he learns from his mistakes and course corrects.

There's a lot of aspects of the job that Freeman has to nail, but I feel like he's made some big strides and will ultimately have an opportunity to succeed where Kelly failed, namely win a playoff game and possibly a natty.

 

[irishandy]

This thread has listed a few days that "this will be the day Deuce flips" and he doesn't- I take that as an ND win.

Whatever ND keeps selling him- he is believing.

Should ND have a back up plan- yes.

Win on the field- put up 56 points vs A&M and go get some WR's to join this class.

 

[rikkitikki08]

The way this thread is going I wouldn’t be surprised if he said he’s staying in the class and two days later decommits and commits to Florida.

It’s weird up in here

 

[Blazers46]

It’s Saturday, where is Duece?

 

[PutuporShutup]

If deuce sticks with ND we should absolutely give props to freeman and staff.

We also should keep evaluating the job they’re doing with wr

Most importantly, it’s how nd plays in 24. It’s set up to be a monster year and it NEEDS to happen!

Recruits need to see ND in the cfp for multiple games this year. This helps counter some of the disadvantages ND has.

 

[irishandy]

If Notre Dame produces on the field and it needs to happen week 1- this will remind Deuce of why he committed and hopefully it catches the eyes of WR recruits.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Elko loves to control the line and his defenses have struggled against great passing teams ND should absolutely spread out the offense I’d go up tempo and rotate 10-11 WR’s in and out get Love and Price involved in the passing game let Leonard rip it

 

[Terry Jillery]

Elko loves to control the line and his defenses have struggled against great passing teams ND should absolutely spread out the offense I’d go up tempo and rotate 10-11 WR’s in and out get Love and Price involved in the passing game let Leonard rip it

Elko’s defensive schemes are a masterclass in chaos creation—turnovers, points, and sheer disruption. He revitalized BK's career almost single-handedly imo and proved himself an exceptional coach. In fact, aside from Fickell, he was my preferred successor to BK. However, if we can minimize turnovers, I’d confidently put our coordinators up against any in the nation. While Elko’s hallmark physicality will undoubtedly push TAMU to overperform, making them formidable, it will be interesting to see if that impact manifests that early in the season. I like our veteran QB, RB’s, WR’s, TE, DL, and our secondary is truly elite.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Just read an interesting post from a coach in Alabama talking about the Deuce situation with Auburn. Apparently Auburn is offering a substantial upfront payment but not much has been offered down the road. The financial offer from ND is much more contractually oriented with Deuce being offered more over time with incentives, etc. but with the clear potential to earn him more. ND is saying “Deuce, bet on yourself” and Auburn is throwing upfront money to get him in the door. This is the scuttlebutt. The poster also said ND apparently has a much better overall offer that is clear but there is some pressure around Deuce to take the quick money. Not really too surprising and pretty tough for a small town kid to process.

Pull a Ewers and go there for a season, take the upfront money, then come on down to ND next summer and be ready to ball.
If the kid was really in this as a business venture, that wouldn’t be a terrible way to play it.
Of course, I realize how ND undergraduate transfer rules make that likely impossible.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Pull a Ewers and go there for a season, take the upfront money, then come on down to ND next summer and be ready to ball.
If the kid was really in this as a business venture, that wouldn’t be a terrible way to play it.
Of course, I realize how ND undergraduate transfer rules make that likely impossible.

I would agree that a smart businessman would take this approach but I’d have to believe even the upfront money has some strings attached. Another thing to keep in mind that in AL, you can’t legally sign a contract until you’re 19 so Deuce would have to set up another legally responsible party (parents?) to be responsible for the T&Cs.

 

[GATTACA!]

Deuce would have to set up another legally responsible party (parents?) to be responsible for the T&Cs.

Uncles remain undefeated.

 

[Ian77]

Pull a Ewers and go there for a season, take the upfront money, then come on down to ND next summer and be ready to ball.
If the kid was really in this as a business venture, that wouldn’t be a terrible way to play it.
Of course, I realize how ND undergraduate transfer rules make that likely impossible.

Interesting idea, but ND's Admissions department would still be a huge hurdle. How many credits earned by an Auburn freshman football player would transfer over to ND? How many true soph/redshirt frosh football players has ND allowed to transfer in since the advent of the new era of transfers? Amir Carlisle is the only one I can think of, but that was before the portal was a thing, and that was a granted exmption by the NCAA to allow him to be closer to family.

If anything, Hugh Freeze would be extremely suspicious of a blue chip recruit demanding to take real, challenging, in-person classes during his first year. If I was the HC of an SEC school (other than Vandy), I'd figure that recruit was up to something.

 

[Irish5Saint]

Interesting idea, but ND's Admissions department would still be a huge hurdle. How many credits earned by an Auburn freshman football player would transfer over to ND? How many true soph/redshirt frosh football players has ND allowed to transfer in since the advent of the new era of transfers? Amir Carlisle is the only one I can think of, but that was before the portal was a thing, and that was a granted exmption by the NCAA to allow him to be closer to family.

If anything, Hugh Freeze would be extremely suspicious of a blue chip recruit demanding to take real, challenging, in-person classes during his first year. If I was the HC of an SEC school (other than Vandy), I'd figure that recruit was up to something.

It’s actually easier for them to get freshmen transfers. Most of that coursework transfers over. It’s the sophomore transfers that are much more difficult.

 

[Hautian Domer]

So on the flip side, if Deuce does stick with ND does that put to rest the notion the MF isn't a significant upgrade over BK as a recruiter?

You can't criticize him for not closing and then not praise him if he does.

Freeman is definitively better as a recruiter, but truthfully, I never felt that Kelly was a bad or subpar recruiter. Maybe complacent at times, but I actually thought he recruited well in most areas, we just never had it always put together and always had one position group with a glaring weakness. I also felt that Kelly was never “fully invested” and that he was always shopping for other schools. Especially after 2016. I can’t say I really blame him, however. A bad season or two and you’re toast at a big time program.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Kelly lost us multiple guys because he was too lazy or didn’t show up when players were on campus 1 guy was Thomas Graham