Trump Presidency

[IRISHDODGER]

Actually surprised they didn’t include him. Seems to be able to bridge the political gap in KY

I bet that’s why he’s staying put. Highly doubtful another Dem could win governor of KY so they need him to stay put in that traditionally red state.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

This doesn’t really clarify what you had thought I was not being honest on.

The polls weren’t really showing him doing well in the vast majority; outside of the most generous polls he was in a very bad spot pre-COVID.

Reading the study you linked pretty much sums up the pretty widely accepted fact that Trump was unlikely to win even before COVID.

You’re right. Apologies on that as I wrongly assumed most folks figured Trump would win. The study I linked gave him a similar shot at winning as he had in 2016 and according to your polling he never hit 50% approval from the time he was inaugurated until losing the reelection bid. So if he could beat Hillary who polls had beating Trump soundly, then it’s not crazy to think he wouldn’t beat a lesser candidate. So I would’ve bet money on him winning pre-Covid with the path laid out in the NIH study I linked. Slim but the fact he had a path despite the low approval ratings and the fact he won in 2016 in spite of the polls & the majority on this thread (incl me) had Hillary winning comfortably…leaves a lot to be desired when listening to all the expert pundits.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Mark Kelly, Senator from Arizona

Gretchen Whitmer, Governor from Michigan

Josh Shapiro, Governor from Pennsylvania

Roy Cooper, Governor from North Carolina

JB Pritzker, Governor from Illinois

Tim Walz, Governor from Minnesota

This is the VP shortlist.

Kelly won’t be on there very long

 

[ab2cmiller]

SS Director Cheatle has resigned.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

SS Director Cheatle has resigned.

Good. What an absolute failure. I can’t believe someone was able to get within 200 yards on a rooftop. Crazy!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Good. What an absolute failure. I can’t believe someone was able to get within 200 yards on a rooftop. Crazy!

The real crazy part was that she claimed that the reason they didn’t have someone on the roof of that building was due to the slope. SMH

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

The real crazy part was that she claimed that the reason they didn’t have someone on the roof of that building was due to the slope. SMH

#OSHA

 

[Bishop2b5]

She got absolutely savaged in front of a Congressional committee yesterday with blows coming from both parties and more than one call for her to resign, including one congresswoman asking if she'd like to resign right then and there. Not much chance to keep her job after such a huge failure last month and that public beating yesterday.

 

[GATTACA!]

She got absolutely savaged in front of a Congressional committee yesterday with blows coming from both parties and more than one call for her to resign, including one congresswoman asking if she'd like to resign right then and there. Not much chance to keep her job after such a huge failure last month and that public beating yesterday.

At least our Doritos will be safe once again.

 

[Bishop2b5]

At least our Doritos will be safe once again.

???

 

[NDVirginia19]

I see where a large Nikki Haley PAC has thrown their support to Harris. In the states where Haley got 10-30% of the primary vote….. could be trouble for Trump if they actually vote for Harris. Trump can’t tolerate 10-30% votes swing to other side.

10-30% in primaries after Trump winning the nomination was a foregone conclusion does not mean that 10-30% of Republican votes in the general election. Also I would wager that the vast majority of that 10-30% will end up voting for Trump regardlessp... I am one of them.

 

[GATTACA!]

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Skip to about 2:00

 

[NDVirginia19]

It is absolutely ridiculous that the Director of the Secret Service was not fired on the spot and that she did not resign in shame immediately after the situation stabilized. The CO of a warship can be asleep in their stateroom and their watch team fuck up and run aground/collide with another ship and they will be fired before they even get out of their rack. Guess it pays to be friends with Jill. Absolutely no accountability in the Biden/Harris administration.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Skip to about 2:00

I knew of her former job, but had completely forgotten about it. Your Doritos reference went completely over my head!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

10-30% in primaries after Trump winning the nomination was a foregone conclusion does not mean that 10-30% of Republican votes in the general election. Also I would wager that the vast majority of that 10-30% will end up voting for Trump regardlessp... I am one of them.

Nikki Haley supporters are not all full in MAGa and they voted for Haley as a protest vote. Even is it’s 5% that votes for Haley and that will not vote for Trump that’s 5% he cannot stand to lose in the general swing state vote counts. They don’t have to vote for Harris. They in most cases will not vote FOR Trump. In swing states to be decided by 10s of thousands of votes this voting block not voting for him is potentially detrimental.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Her approach was all wrong. If she'd been relentless in figuring out what had gone wrong in the SS's protection of Trump, been open & forthright about the findings, taken responsibility for all of it and then showed up in front of Congress and answered every question and then said, "We screwed up and we're going to use this as a learning opportunity and get better. I will guarantee that we do and will put all my energy into making that happen" then she had a decent chance to survive. Instead, Congress had to subpoena her, she was evasive, and she's given nonsense explanations since the shooting. Textbook demonstration of how to get savaged by your superiors and lose your job.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Skip to about 2:00

So much performative gibberish. Embarrassing.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Spending a couple of months engaging in and spreading “stollen election” rhetoric, then actively gathering a large crowd, then spending several hours of pumping the crowd full of “stolen election rhetoric”, then telling it to march to the capital to “stop the steal” does.

Once the mob is set in action all beats are off.

From what I remember this is sociology/psychology 101 level stuff.

Your sociology/ psychology stuff doesn't carry any weight. The law does.

If Trump incited, assisted or participated in rebellion or insurrection, he would have been charged with federal crime 2383. That hasn't happened. As badly as you, seekndestroy and GoIrish41 want it to be so...it just isn't.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Kelly won’t be on there very long

I’m seeing a new name on the list:

 

[Bluto]

Your sociology/ psychology stuff doesn't carry any weight. The law does.

If Trump incited, assisted or participated in rebellion or insurrection, he would have been charged with federal crime 2383. That hasn't happened. As badly as you, seekndestroy and GoIrish41 want it to be so...it just isn't.

Ok.

So, assuming you’re a big proponent of “the law” I’m guessing you firmly stand behind him being convicted on 34 felony counts in a criminal court by a jury of his peers and the rulings in the civil cases against him?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Ok.

So, assuming you’re a big proponent of “the law” I’m guessing you firmly stand behind him being convicted on 34 felony counts in a criminal court by a jury of his peers and the rulings in the civil cases against him?

First, way to change topic entirely.

Second, my stance on Trump is irrelevant. The US Constitution says to run for president you have to be 35 years old, natural born citizen, and been a resident for 14 years. This means if he wins in November, he's moving back into the White House in January. So while some may not like a felon being president and I get that, there's nothing legally that will prevent it.

Third, everyone who doesn't think Trump = Hitler knows that New York DA took a bunch of misdemeanors and turned them into felonies solely because it was Trump. It was a political trial from day one.

Fourth, the dereliction of duty with our southern border since 2021 under Biden (or whoever the hell was making decisions in that admin) is far worse than any of the 34 felonies Trump has on his record. Far, far worse.

 

[Bluto]

First, way to change topic entirely.

Second, my stance on Trump is irrelevant. The US Constitution says to run for president you have to be 35 years old, natural born citizen, and been a resident for 14 years. This means if he wins in November, he's moving back into the White House in January. So while some may not like a felon being president and I get that, there's nothing legally that will prevent it.

Third, everyone who doesn't think Trump = Hitler knows that New York DA took a bunch of misdemeanors and turned them into felonies solely because it was Trump. It was a political trial from day one.

Fourth, the dereliction of duty with our southern border since 2021 under Biden (or whoever the hell was making decisions in that admin) is far worse than any of the 34 felonies Trump has on his record. Far, far worse.

It seemed like you wanted to discuss “the law”. Maybe not.

Of course people’s “stances” and opinions of a candidate matter in politics. I get it, a complete dipshit can file to run for and potentially be president based on the minimum qualifications laid out in the constitution. The question then becomes should I or anybody else vote for said person?

Trump had his day in a criminal court and was duly convicted on 34 felony counts by a jury of his peers. He’s also had all kinds of civil penalties levied against him.

We shall see with the additional State and Federal charges he’s facing.

Now if you want to wave that all away with claims of “witch hunts” or whatever and vote for and or continue to defend such a demonstrably lawless, piece of shit knock yourself out.

I will say however, I find it to be pretty strange for anyone who’s all about “the law” to back and or defend a duly convicted criminal who has clearly shown a disregard for the law to be the person responsible for applying and enforcing federal law per the Constitution.

That’s gonna make for a strange conversation with Saint Peter when the time comes. Lol.

Anyhow , I’m glad when Trump, Bob Mendez and any other shit bag politician is held to account for breaking the law.

I think fuck wads like them should get mandatory minimums of 10-20. Seriously fuck those guys.

 

[GATTACA!]

Are Republican voters having doubts about Vance? Harry Enten breaks down the data | CNN Politics

CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten breaks down the numbers around JD Vance since his announcement as Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick.

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[Cackalacky2.0]

Are Republican voters having doubts about Vance? Harry Enten breaks down the data | CNN Politics

CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten breaks down the numbers around JD Vance since his announcement as Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick.

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Same energy

 

[NDVirginia19]

It seemed like you wanted to discuss “the law”. Maybe not.

Of course people’s “stances” and opinions of a candidate matter in politics. I get it, a complete dipshit can file to run for and potentially be president based on the minimum qualifications laid out in the constitution. The question then becomes should I or anybody else vote for said person?

Trump had his day in a criminal court and was duly convicted on 34 felony counts by a jury of his peers. He’s also had all kinds of civil penalties levied against him.

We shall see with the additional State and Federal charges he’s facing.

Now if you want to wave that all away with claims of “witch hunts” or whatever and vote for and or continue to defend such a demonstrably lawless, piece of shit knock yourself out.

I will say however, I find it to be pretty strange for anyone who’s all about “the law” to back and or defend a duly convicted criminal who has clearly shown a disregard for the law to be the person responsible for applying and enforcing federal law per the Constitution.

That’s gonna make for a strange conversation with Saint Peter when the time comes. Lol.

Anyhow , I’m glad when Trump, Bob Mendez and any other shit bag politician is held to account for breaking the law.

I think fuck wads like them should get mandatory minimums of 10-20. Seriously fuck those guys.

Yeah but in no way were any of Trump's "felonies" actually felonies by any historic application of the law with charges that were beyond the statute of limitations. The only reason he was charged with felonies was because the DA ran for office on charging Trump with a felony, Biden's #3 at the DOJ stepped down to single-A ball to influence the case, and the judge was a Democrat donor. It is an absolute political witchunt and abortion of justice that was only done to influence the election for the political benefit of the DNC. Were they misdemeanors? Yeah probably. But the left wanted to be able to campaign on him being a felon.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Yeah but in no way were any of Trump's "felonies" actually felonies by any historic application of the law with charges that were beyond the statute of limitations. The only reason he was charged with felonies was because the DA ran for office on charging Trump with a felony, Biden's #3 at the DOJ stepped down to single-A ball to influence the case, and the judge was a Democrat donor. It is an absolute political witchunt and abortion of justice that was only done to influence the election for the political benefit of the DNC. Were they misdemeanors? Yeah probably. But the left wanted to be able to campaign on him being a felon.

But they are actual felonies and are actual NY state laws. There are so many canards in this post it’s hard to know where to start. It’s like a Faux News Chiron. lol.

The charges were brought to a GJ which moved forward. They had a trial. The judge applied the law to the charges, instructed the jury and the jury unanimously found him guilty. Everything about this is the process law and order people want. 😂.

All 17 felonies for Trump Org. Are proper.
All 34 felonies against Trump are proper. Other people in The Org went to jail for both tax fraud schemes.

His Non CPA business accountant is serving time for the scheme and more time for more perjury during court testimony. His lawyer who did the crimes on his behalf and at his direction also served time for the same crimes. Other people would have also served but they cooperated.

He is an adjudicated rapist and defamist

He and his family and his umbrella corp are an adjudicated tax fraud scheme

Cope more.

#LawAndOrder

 

[NDVirginia19]

But they are actual felonies and are actual NY state laws. The charges were brought to a GJ which moved forward. They had a trial. The judge applied the law to the charges, instructed the jury and the jury unanimously found him guilty. Everything about this is the process law and order people want. 😂.

All 17 felonies for Trump Org. Are proper.
All 34 felonies against Trump are proper. Other people in The Org went to jail for both tax fraud schemes.

His Non CPA business accountant is serving time for the scheme and more time for more perjury during court testimony. His lawyer who did the crimes on his behalf and at his direction also served time for the same crimes. Other people would have also served but they cooperated.

He is an adjudicated rapist and defamist

He and his family and his umbrella corp are an adjudicated tax fraud scheme

Cope more.

Weaponizing the justice system with trumped up charges against political opponents is cool when he is mean and I don't like him

 

[yankeehater]

I watched the Bryson/Trump YouTube video trying to break 50. I have to admit Trump is a way better golfer than I expected. No way Biden could have even filmed that video.

 

[TorontoGold]

But they are actual felonies and are actual NY state laws. There are so many canards in this post it’s hard to know where to start. It’s like a Faux News Chiron. lol.

The charges were brought to a GJ which moved forward. They had a trial. The judge applied the law to the charges, instructed the jury and the jury unanimously found him guilty. Everything about this is the process law and order people want. 😂.

All 17 felonies for Trump Org. Are proper.
All 34 felonies against Trump are proper. Other people in The Org went to jail for both tax fraud schemes.

His Non CPA business accountant is serving time for the scheme and more time for more perjury during court testimony. His lawyer who did the crimes on his behalf and at his direction also served time for the same crimes. Other people would have also served but they cooperated.

He is an adjudicated rapist and defamist

He and his family and his umbrella corp are an adjudicated tax fraud scheme

Cope more.

#LawAndOrder

I think all of his various accountants all had CPA's, just that they never provided him/his companies with assurance services. Which is a major red flag to any financial institution, but apparently not for DB who's known for their loose lending policies.

The most jokes thing about Trump and his accountant's is that they came out and said that you couldn't rely on their financial disclosures/statements/information they produced for him that provided no assurance. It's essentially like your mechanic changing your wiper fluid and saying they can't say whether the car can turn on.