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Remember a week or two ago when the WSJ article claimed Biden was a complete disaster behind the scenes and the WH & several dems claimed it was a dishonest hatchet job, and the MSM condemned it as lying nonsense? Now we know. WSJ editor-in-chief is feeling rather vindicated now, while those who've been flat out lying to the American public about Joe's competency have egg on their face and are scrambling to find a way to explain away the debate performance and the fact that they were knowingly trying to dupe us all.

 

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Obviously both sides are guilty of spinning narratives about the other guy, but this notion that Biden is mentally sharp and running the show behind the scenes has been pushed hard. The latest debate has opened eyes after the media tried to push that Trump was the one with the real struggles.

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Obviously both sides are guilty of spinning narratives about the other guy, but this notion that Biden is mentally sharp and running the show behind the scenes has been pushed hard. The latest debate has opened eyes after the media tried to push that Trump was the one with the real struggles
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30 second scroll through cornstinkys posts make it very clear he’s just a republican.
 

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That Scarborough, The View, the NYT, MSNBC, CNN, and all the others who've defended Biden’s sharpness and told us how strong & capable he was didn't know how bad this really was is ridiculous. Everyone watching him on TV could see it. Everyone listening to him asking where some dead person was, reading "Pause" off the teleprompter, or spewing out verbal salad on a regular basis knew it. Those people had much greater access to him and those around him than we did and they didn't know it until Thursday night??? BS! They covered for him and lied to us.
 

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Biden did much better at the fundraising event. I can only conclude that he was dealing with some anxiety because he was without his emotional support teleprompter on debate night.
 

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Imagine the decline in just six months. Makes me legitimately terrified that the axis of evil around the world knows that "leader" of the free world has no clothes.
 

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One of the strongest voices imploring Mr. Biden to resist pressure to drop out was his son Hunter Biden, whom the president has long leaned on for advice, said one of the people informed about the discussions, who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to share internal deliberations. Hunter Biden wants Americans to see the version of his father that he knows — scrappy and in command of the facts — rather than the stumbling, aging president Americans saw on Thursday night.
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That Scarborough, The View, the NYT, MSNBC, CNN, and all the others who've defended Biden’s sharpness and told us how strong & capable he was didn't know how bad this really was is ridiculous. Everyone watching him on TV could see it. Everyone listening to him asking where some dead person was, reading "Pause" off the teleprompter, or spewing out verbal salad on a regular basis knew it. Those people had much greater access to him and those around him than we did and they didn't know it until Thursday night??? BS! They covered for him and lied to us.
This is what angers me about this whole charade: the press gets all sorts of protections and access and such in order to insure that they can speak truth to power and serve as the eyes, ears, and voice of the people. Instead, most are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the Democratic party and protect it at all cost, including blatantly lying to us. Now they have a complete shitshow on their hands and nobody to blame but themselves. They covered up Joe's issues the past year or more, lied like dogs to us about it, and now are feigning shock at how bad he is. Hell, they knew it better than anyone! It was only a couple of weeks ago that they called the WSJ article detailing Biden's mental decline a pack of lies and a "smear job." Now that we all saw it live on national television, suddenly they're all "shocked" that he's so bad.

The following from the WSJ is spot on.


When the Democratic media complex decides on a political question, the unified choreography is something to behold. So it is with the new establishment chorus after Thursday’s debate that President Biden should withdraw his candidacy for a second term. Suddenly, the columnists and editorial pages that denied the truth are sounding like these columns.


The problem is that Democrats are now left with a likely nominee who is in obvious mental decline, and a Vice President in Kamala Harris who is even less popular than Mr. Biden. Finding a better nominee will be messy, no matter how desirable, but keep in mind how Democrats and their media allies got themselves and the country into this mess.


One reason is that they happily covered for White House deceptions. The Democratic press barely questioned Mr. Biden’s limited workday, his reliance on a teleprompter, and his rare unscripted media interviews. “Eighty is the new 40,” press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said last year.
“Didn’t you hear?” Ms. Jean-Pierre said in 2022 that Mr. Biden displays such stamina that she, not yet age 50, “can’t even keep up with him.” Conservatives mocked this but the press laughed it off.


When reporters noticed Mr. Biden had started pairing his business suits with dark tennis shoes rather than traditional dress shoes, the speculation was that the footwear was meant to keep him from falling. Deputy press secretary Andrew Bates spun it as a fitness thing. “I know y’all aren’t partial to presidents who exercise,” he told the New York Post, “but don’t worry—you’ll get used to it.”


The Journal’s news pages received similar treatment in June when they carried a story, based on 45 interviews, about Mr. Biden slipping. Gene Sperling, an economic adviser, told reporters it was standard practice for presidents to read from note cards in meetings. Mr. Bates said the story was a “smear” full of politically motivated “false claims,” and that Mr. Biden is a “savvy and effective leader.”


The press rallied around the White House and called the story irresponsible, saying the Journal had fallen for a right-wing, Fox News trope. The folks at Morning Joe on MSNBC were outraged, calling the news article a “false, biased story,” and a “Trump hit piece.”


The New York Times published a long story blaming concerns about Mr. Biden’s frailties on a “distorted, online version of himself, a product of often misleading videos that play into and reinforce voters’ longstanding concerns about his age and abilities.”


Elected Democrats at least have the excuse that they risk their careers if they tell the truth about Mr. Biden. Exhibit A: Dean Phillips. But there’s no excuse for a press corps to deny what two-thirds of the public said they saw with their own eyes. Now, with the looming prospect of defeat to Donald Trump, the liberal media establishment has turned to admit what it can no longer deny.


The path out of this nightmare might be easier if not for another problem the press refused to recognize—that Kamala Harris wasn’t remotely qualified to be Vice President when Mr. Biden chose her. He had promised to pick a woman as his Vice President, and Mr. Biden selected Ms. Harris because she was a woman of color, not because of her qualifications.


Ms. Harris had bombed as a presidential candidate, washing out after she couldn’t defend her own Medicare plan at a primary debate. She had risen to the Senate based on patronage. Yet she was hailed by Democrats and the press as the first woman of color on a national ticket, as if this were more important than someone who could do the job. Criticism of her failures on immigration, or of her frequent word salads, was said to be racist or sexist.


Imagine if the Vice President now were someone like Gerald Ford, a pair of safe hands as President after Richard Nixon’s resignation in 1974. The press is now reporting that one reason Mr. Biden chose to run for re-election was fear that Ms. Harris couldn’t defeat Mr. Trump.


It’s an apt worry. But if Mr. Biden had bowed out last year, Democrats could have had a normal primary fight for the nomination. Ms. Harris would have had to show she deserved it in her own right by defeating competitors. Now Democrats run the risk of appearing to bypass the first minority woman Vice President in a backroom coup. This is what happens when a party puts identity politics above governing experience and political skill.


A Biden withdrawal and an open August convention are still desirable—in the best interests of the country as much as those of the Democratic Party. Mr. Biden’s frailties are an invitation to adversaries to exploit in a second term, and Ms. Harris doesn’t appear up to the job. An open convention carries risks, but it’s the best way Democrats and their media allies can clean up the mess they’ve made.
 

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If Biden was going to drop you would have to think it would happen sooner rather than later. If this drags into mid-July he isn't dropping.

Most realistic situation at this point -- especially given the Supreme Court ruling that is going to delay Trump's election crimes trials -- is that Biden is going to stick in the race and end up losing to Trump in a landslide. There are zero motivating factors to vote for a geriatric clown with dementia except that he "isn't Trump."
 

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I just don't believe he should remain President. I believe Biden remaining President is a serious National Security Risk. Someone who is really only semi-functional between 10 am and 4 pm is a cause for great concern. Kamala has her own concerns but she would have to be an improvement over Biden.
 

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If Biden was going to drop you would have to think it would happen sooner rather than later. If this drags into mid-July he isn't dropping.

Most realistic situation at this point -- especially given the Supreme Court ruling that is going to delay Trump's election crimes trials -- is that Biden is going to stick in the race and end up losing to Trump in a landslide. There are zero motivating factors to vote for a geriatric clown with dementia except that he "isn't Trump."
The common thought seems to be that they're waiting on polling to come in to see just how disastrous that debate performance was.
 

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If Biden was going to drop you would have to think it would happen sooner rather than later. If this drags into mid-July he isn't dropping.

Most realistic situation at this point -- especially given the Supreme Court ruling that is going to delay Trump's election crimes trials -- is that Biden is going to stick in the race and end up losing to Trump in a landslide. There are zero motivating factors to vote for a geriatric clown with dementia except that he "isn't Trump."


I am pretty sure it is already to late to take him off the ballot and or add someone new to the ballot in a bunch of states. I am not in a place to look it up right now, but my wife and I were talking/reading about it over the weekend. I think the Dems are screwed.

I also think the Republican's should shut their mouths about it. They should want Joe to run, it "should" be an easy win for them. I think Harris can be beat (would be tougher), but if somehow the Dems get Newsome in the race, that could be trouble for the Right.
 

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He's the only one reporting that, correct?
That's the only one I've seen.

If Biden was going to drop you would have to think it would happen sooner rather than later. If this drags into mid-July he isn't dropping.

Most realistic situation at this point -- especially given the Supreme Court ruling that is going to delay Trump's election crimes trials -- is that Biden is going to stick in the race and end up losing to Trump in a landslide. There are zero motivating factors to vote for a geriatric clown with dementia except that he "isn't Trump."
I'm actually expecting a decision by the first of the week. I guess it depends on how much bickering goes on among the DNC and the Biden family before the come to an agreement.
 

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I am pretty sure it is already to late to take him off the ballot and or add someone new to the ballot in a bunch of states. I am not in a place to look it up right now, but my wife and I were talking/reading about it over the weekend. I think the Dems are screwed.

I also think the Republican's should shut their mouths about it. They should want Joe to run, it "should" be an easy win for them. I think Harris can be beat (would be tougher), but if somehow the Dems get Newsome in the race, that could be trouble for the Right.
I listened to someone talking about that the other day. It isn't too late but it's very close. They actually have to certify him as the nominee before the convention because if they waited until then I know at least Ohio he wouldn't be on the ballot. So I'd assume any other candidate would have the same amount of time.
 

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I am pretty sure it is already to late to take him off the ballot and or add someone new to the ballot in a bunch of states. I am not in a place to look it up right now, but my wife and I were talking/reading about it over the weekend. I think the Dems are screwed.

I also think the Republican's should shut their mouths about it. They should want Joe to run, it "should" be an easy win for them. I think Harris can be beat (would be tougher), but if somehow the Dems get Newsome in the race, that could be trouble for the Right.

I listened to someone talking about that the other day. It isn't too late but it's very close. They actually have to certify him as the nominee before the convention because if they waited until then I know at least Ohio he wouldn't be on the ballot. So I'd assume any other candidate would have the same amount of time.

That's what I'm seeing too. I saw somewhere where it's still legal in every state until July 9th, which would be Georgia having the first cutoff. Not sure if that's legit or not, and not sure when other states follow suit.
 

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If Biden was going to drop you would have to think it would happen sooner rather than later. If this drags into mid-July he isn't dropping.

Most realistic situation at this point -- especially given the Supreme Court ruling that is going to delay Trump's election crimes trials -- is that Biden is going to stick in the race and end up losing to Trump in a landslide. There are zero motivating factors to vote for a geriatric clown with dementia except that he "isn't Trump."
Unless something changes, Trump will win in a landslide. Given the disaster of Joe Biden, the stigma of pulling the trigger for Trump is completely gone. Trump easily wins the "is your life better than it was 4 years ago" question and most of the swing voters I know are comfortable openly saying they will vote for him. That just wasn't the case in 2016 and 2020.
 

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Unless something changes, Trump will win in a landslide. Given the disaster of Joe Biden, the stigma of pulling the trigger for Trump is completely gone. Trump easily wins the "is your life better than it was 4 years ago" question and most of the swing voters I know are comfortable openly saying they will vote for him. That just wasn't the case in 2016 and 2020.
Great time to can Trump, I could beat Biden at this point.
 

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I thought Biden did OK relative to my expectations. I was surprised anyone was surprised. The fact it was deemed poor enough to devolve into hysteria on the left so quickly and completely really is Scott Timmermans tears level stuff.

Hilarious that the biggest lies are the least important. I'm talking "I didn't have sex with a porn star" and "I had a 6 handicap as VP" - I'll even give him 8 handicap he reverted to almost immediately. Biden is kindergarten level bad with numbers and always has been.
 

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I thought Biden did OK relative to my expectations. I was surprised anyone was surprised. The fact it was deemed poor enough to devolve into hysteria on the left so quickly and completely really is Scott Timmermans tears level stuff.

Hilarious that the biggest lies are the least important. I'm talking "I didn't have sex with a porn star" and "I had a 6 handicap as VP" - I'll even give him 8 handicap he reverted to almost immediately. Biden is kindergarten level bad with numbers and always has been.
The best part of the debate was when they were going at each other about their golf skills.
 

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The best part of the debate was when they were going at each other about their golf skills.
If you’re in an office long enough you will realize how much this matters to everyone. In any meeting I’ve been in that starts to feel awkward I bring golf into conversation and it fixes everything.
 
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