College Athletics Branding - Name Image Likeness Rules

[Irish#1]

Fifita's dad tweeted last night that this is 100% false and that they've had no contact with anyone from Bama. This one appears to be some trolling from a rival fanbase.

Noah Fifita’s father silences rumors that Kalen DeBoer, Alabama tampered with his son

Fifita's father put any tampering rumors about his son, including those involving Alabama, to rest with a tweet on Friday night.

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Deny, deny, deny to keep this from being looked at.

 

[Armyirish47]

So I went to a coaching clinic this past weekend and a couple NIL points were brought up that I thought were interesting.

1. In state players that are accepted by the University can begin receiving NIL immediately. And some out of state, if they are close enough. But it does present a sticky situation if they accept NIL and keep taking visits, which sounds like a ton of fun to monitor.

B. I assumed you had to be a scholarship player to get the good stuff but it isn't limited to them and an emergent strategy is to have the collective shower walk ons with enough money to cover you know tuition, room and board, books, bitches, etc. The back door scholarship brought to you by <insert auto dealership here>.

Anywho, good times!

 

[allenm5333]

So I went to a coaching clinic this past weekend and a couple NIL points were brought up that I thought were interesting.

1. In state players that are accepted by the University can begin receiving NIL immediately. And some out of state, if they are close enough. But it does present a sticky situation if they accept NIL and keep taking visits, which sounds like a ton of fun to monitor.

B. I assumed you had to be a scholarship player to get the good stuff but it isn't limited to them and an emergent strategy is to have the collective shower walk ons with enough money to cover you know tuition, room and board, books, bitches, etc. The back door scholarship brought to you by <insert auto dealership here>.

Anywho, good times!

To point 1, that is why the Missouri 5 star ended up there instead of Oklahoma

 

[stlnd01]

So I went to a coaching clinic this past weekend and a couple NIL points were brought up that I thought were interesting.

1. In state players that are accepted by the University can begin receiving NIL immediately. And some out of state, if they are close enough. But it does present a sticky situation if they accept NIL and keep taking visits, which sounds like a ton of fun to monitor.

B. I assumed you had to be a scholarship player to get the good stuff but it isn't limited to them and an emergent strategy is to have the collective shower walk ons with enough money to cover you know tuition, room and board, books, bitches, etc. The back door scholarship brought to you by <insert auto dealership here>.

Anywho, good times!

I would think that B would be a very big thing for mens sports that are not football/basketball, at least at top-tier programs.

With Title IX, scholarships are pretty tight for hockey/baseball/lacrosse/soccer but if you can pay guys in other ways, you can still recruit pretty well.

 

[jprue24]

"The NCAA board vote was expected but perhaps looms more symbolically. The board voting in favor of a settlement that would allow schools to pay players represents a formal severing of a decades-long tether to unpaid amateurism.

The settlement terms state the NCAA will provide more than $2.7 billion to former athletes over the next decade for back damages related to the association's name, image and likeness restrictions, according to sources. The conferences also agreed to create a forward-looking system that will allow schools to pay roughly $20 million per year in permissive revenue sharing to athletes. Those direct payments, an unprecedented paradigm shift in college sports, would likely begin in fall 2025."

NCAA board votes to accept antitrust settlement, sources say

The NCAA's Board of Governors voted Wednesday evening to agree to settlement terms in the House v. NCAA and related antitrust cases, sources said.

www.espn.com

 

[IrishLax]

The amount of schools who cheated over the past few years and are going to skate because of the NCAA imploding is pretty absurd.

 

[NorthDakota]

The amount of schools who cheated over the past few years and are going to skate because of the NCAA imploding is pretty absurd.

For sure but also...how much trouble were any really gonna get in?

 

[Irishnuke]

For sure but also...how much trouble were any really gonna get in?

I think the PR damage from this Rashada BS is worse than any punishment the NCAA was going to hand out.

 

[drayer54]

 

[IRISHDODGER]

The powers that be had to know the unintended consequences but the battle cry was “pay the players!” so let’s just do that w/o thinking ahead. Now talking heads (the same ones screaming “pay the players” from their ivory towers) are whining that championship college coaches like Harbaugh & Hurley are making the leap to the pros. No shit. Who wants to deal w/ the added drama of not only recruiting HS kids but then re-recruiting them every year they’re on campus?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

The powers that be had to know the unintended consequences but the battle cry was “pay the players!” so let’s just do that w/o thinking ahead. Now talking heads (the same ones screaming “pay the players” from their ivory towers) are whining that championship college coaches like Harbaugh & Hurley are making the leap to the pros. No shit. Who wants to deal w/ the added drama of not only recruiting HS kids but then re-recruiting them every year they’re on campus?

That's some of it. Other factors are there's no salary cap, no oversight, no regulation, and no more parity either.

 

[stlnd01]

That's some of it. Other factors are there's no salary cap, no oversight, no regulation, and no more parity either.

Yep. Players getting paid is the least of what drives coaches out of the game right now.

 

[Irish4life]

That's some of it. Other factors are there's no salary cap, no oversight, no regulation, and no more parity either.

College football has NEVER had parity, ever.

 

[jprue24]

The powers that be had to know the unintended consequences but the battle cry was “pay the players!” so let’s just do that w/o thinking ahead. Now talking heads (the same ones screaming “pay the players” from their ivory towers) are whining that championship college coaches like Harbaugh & Hurley are making the leap to the pros. No shit. Who wants to deal w/ the added drama of not only recruiting HS kids but then re-recruiting them every year they’re on campus?

These problems were very easy to see coming. Those who had no problem with these young men being exploited have been telling anyone that would listen this nonsense reasoning for decades (i.e. "student athletes"). All you're seeing in that video is the money out in the open and being spent more freely.

A couple years ago everyone was jerking off to Freeman doing shit like this...

 

[jprue24]

Keep in mind, the Texas athletic department pulls in more athletic revenue than anyone (of those that openly report) else and is self-sufficient.

Texas reported athletic \ndepartment revenue of $271 million in 2023, a record for NCAA schools

It was an impressive fiscal year for the Texas athletic department, which generated $271 million in revenue, an all-time high for NCAA schools.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

College football has NEVER had parity, ever.

College football didn't start in the 1980s. In the early years and I would say up to the 70's/80's, there was parity but fewer teams playing. Before all the TV money got involved, most of these schools were on a level playing field with finances, facilities, staffs, etc.

The people who think NIL is going to level the playing field is laughable. First, the boosters at Miami and Texas A&M paying a boat load for players isn't equating to wins.

Second, NIL and portal just means excellent players at lesser schools/ lower levels are gonna get plucked by the big boys (see Jahmir Gibbs leaving Ga Tech for Bama, Hartman leaving Wake for ND). None of this will equate to Duke, Va Tech, and Pitt getting more dudes to complete with FSU, Ohio State and Georgia.

 

[greyhammer90]

College football didn't start in the 1980s. In the early years and I would say up to the 70's/80's, there was parity but fewer teams playing. Before all the TV money got involved, most of these schools were on a level playing field with finances, facilities, staffs, etc.

The people who think NIL is going to level the playing field is laughable. First, the boosters at Miami and Texas A&M paying a boat load for players isn't equating to wins.

Second, NIL and portal just means excellent players at lesser schools/ lower levels are gonna get plucked by the big boys (see Jahmir Gibbs leaving Ga Tech for Bama, Hartman leaving Wake for ND). None of this will equate to Duke, Va Tech, and Pitt getting more dudes to complete with FSU, Ohio State and Georgia.

NIL won't lead to parity amongst the 100+ cfb programs, but it'll lead to more parity amongst the top 15 programs that were already competing for national titles. Texas A&M buying ten 5 stars that would normally end up at Bama or UGA by default has a marked effect. It's also going to be much harder to stockpile the talent that you've already successfully recruited if you're a top program.

 

[Irishdawg]

NIL won't lead to parity amongst the 100+ cfb programs, but it'll lead to more parity amongst the top 15 programs that were already competing for national titles. Texas A&M buying ten 5 stars that would normally end up at Bama or UGA by default has a marked effect. It's also going to be much harder to stockpile the talent that you've already successfully recruited if you're a top program.

This! It’s really just free agency without a salary cap. Like pro sports teams, universities will have a budget some will be the Yankees and Dodgers (A&M — Oregon) some the twins and white sox ( Michigan St. — Miss. St.)
As we’ve seen if a kid is not getting playing time he’s looking to move and even more disappointing is when a kid does well at a less successful school (lower ranked, say U of MN) they are then looking at the Bamas, Michigans, Oregons) for transfer opportunities. I suppose you can’t blame them but as said previously rich get richer and parity goes out the window!!

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It's spreading the top recruits to 10-15 teams instead of three.
NiL is good for us.

No more super teams to run into in the playoffs.

 

[BobbyMac]

It's spreading the top recruits to 10-15 teams instead of three.
NiL is good for us.

No more super teams to run into in the playoffs.

Completely disagree!!! Take last year for example. It was the same old story, the team full 5 sta...

Oh um... I meant, I agree.

 

[Huntr]

I would say up to the 70's/80's, there was parity but fewer teams playing

NCAA data clearly show this to be incorrect.

 

[jprue24]

Second, NIL and portal just means excellent players at lesser schools/ lower levels are gonna get plucked by the big boys (see Jahmir Gibbs leaving Ga Tech for Bama, Hartman leaving Wake for ND). None of this will equate to Duke, Va Tech, and Pitt getting more dudes to complete with FSU, Ohio State and Georgia.

Gibbs didn't take an empty roster spot. Camar Weaton, a top 50 recruit (#1 RB at Rivals in '20), left Bama the same year and went to SMU. There is further player redistribution that happens with transfers just like dominos in recruiting. Ga Tech replaced Gibbs and others with D1 transfers RBs (from Louisville and Buffalo).

That same Gibbs year, Ga Tech took Pierce Quick, a former top 50 OL, from Bama. Quick may have been stuck rotting behind better players at Bama. Now he gets reps, can get more film, and may have a better shot at the next level. It didn't work out for him, but he got playing time. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. He also transferred back to Bama and finished his degree (the real victory in the end <3).

I am a huge proponent of recruiting misses getting more shots at playing (miss because bad) or playing for the schools they really want to (miss because they are actually good/late bloomer)

 

[irishff1014]

It's spreading the top recruits to 10-15 teams instead of three.
NiL is good for us.

No more super teams to run into in the playoffs.

Maybe you should go look at the top 10-15 on 247. It’s just that the same ole schools.

 

[jprue24]

1983 NC State title team members sue NCAA over NIL compensation

Ten players from NC State's 1983 national champion basketball team have sued the NCAA and the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for unauthorized use of their name, image and likeness.

www.espn.com

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Gibbs didn't take an empty roster spot. Camar Weaton, a top 50 recruit (#1 RB at Rivals in '20), left Bama the same year and went to SMU. There is further player redistribution that happens with transfers just like dominos in recruiting. Ga Tech replaced Gibbs and others with D1 transfers RBs (from Louisville and Buffalo).

That same Gibbs year, Ga Tech took Pierce Quick, a former top 50 OL, from Bama. Quick may have been stuck rotting behind better players at Bama. Now he gets reps, can get more film, and may have a better shot at the next level. It didn't work out for him, but he got playing time. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. He also transferred back to Bama and finished his degree (the real victory in the end <3).

I am a huge proponent of recruiting misses getting more shots at playing (miss because bad) or playing for the schools they really want to (miss because they are actually good/late bloomer)

Bama didn't have an empty roster spot, but Gibbs definitely took a scholarship away from someone. And while Ga Tech replaced Gibbs, they didn't replace him with another first round draft pick.

The talent isn't getting distributed evenly in college football (not even close), but I will agree it'll be harder for teams to stockpile five stars like Saban did for so long.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

NCAA data clearly show this to be incorrect.

Clearly? Look back to the 50s and 60s. Michigan St, Syracuse, Iowa, Minnesota and Arkansas won national championships in a 12 year span, aside from the traditional powers like Bama, ND, USC, etc.

 

[TorontoGold]

Clearly? Look back to the 50s and 60s. Michigan St, Syracuse, Iowa, Minnesota and Arkansas won national championships in a 12 year span, aside from the traditional powers like Bama, ND, USC, etc.

2021 - 2023: Bama/GA/OSU/UW/Mich/TCU/UC/Texas: 8 teams over 3 years
2014-2020: Bama/GA/OSU/UW/Clem/OK/FSU/MSU/Oregon/LSU/ND: 11 teams over 7 years.

One can make the argument that the playoffs with NIL has provided more parity.

 

[jprue24]

Bama didn't have an empty roster spot, but Gibbs definitely took a scholarship away from someone. And while Ga Tech replaced Gibbs, they didn't replace him with another first round draft pick.

I addressed the 5 star that got replaced at Alabama by Gibbs. He went to SMU.

You also won't see me crying for Ga Tech either.

Georgia Tech Football Has 4th Bigget Net Rating Gain Amongst Transfer Classes In the ACC

Georgia Tech has had a busy offseason of adding talent to their roster. The Yellow Jackets have looked at upgrading a few key spots on offense, but most of the

www.si.com

The talent isn't getting distributed evenly in college football (not even close), but I will agree it'll be harder for teams to stockpile five stars like Saban did for so long.

Creating parity isn't the point of NIL. Creating parity isn't the point of allowing transfers.

 

[irishff1014]

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1983 NC State title team members sue NCAA over NIL compensation

Ten players from NC State's 1983 national champion basketball team have sued the NCAA and the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for unauthorized use of their name, image and likeness.

www.espn.com

The start of an explosion.

 

[Irish#1]

I addressed the 5 star that got replaced at Alabama by Gibbs. He went to SMU.

You also won't see me crying for Ga Tech either.

Georgia Tech Football Has 4th Bigget Net Rating Gain Amongst Transfer Classes In the ACC

Georgia Tech has had a busy offseason of adding talent to their roster. The Yellow Jackets have looked at upgrading a few key spots on offense, but most of the

www.si.com

Creating parity isn't the point of NIL. Creating parity isn't the point of allowing transfers.

No, but they are byproducts.