Notre Dame Hires Loren Landow as Director of Football Performance

[BeauBenken]

 

[BeauBenken]

 

[notredomer23]

I can’t unsee the coach of the Dolphins from Ballers in that

 

[ND87]

Strong VanGorder vibes from that pic or nah?

 

[Irish8248]

Strong VanGorder vibes from that pic or nah?

I see 90s Bill Cowher

 

[Old Man Mike]

no to the BVG thing. BVG always looked like a utter stud even when losing his mind.

 

[MacIrish75]

I can’t unsee the coach of the Dolphins from Ballers in that

Strong VanGorder vibes from that pic or nah?

I scrolled down here to post both of these lol. First two things I thought.

 

[OKCDomer23]

I agree on the Van Gorder look a like. A much tougher, angrier one. Highly intriguing hire.

 

[Irish#1]

Let the bemoaning begin.

 

[Giddyup]

He sucks!! No nfl experience, no Juco college experience!!

 

[jspags10pg]

I know we're in a new age and we're supposed to be more accepting and open-minded but I feel very strongly that an elite college football strength and conditioning coach is a job for the manliest of men. I admit that before this hire I had never heard of Loren and I know nothing of her credentials but I do wish her good luck and I hope she proves me wrong.

 

[Giddyup]

I’m gonna double check how he teaches squat technique and I’ll give my opinion before I fire him like Balis.

 

[Valpodoc85]

 

[irishff1014]

I guess all we can do is wait and find out. And hope it doesn’t take us back to the early BK area where we were manhandled on the field.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Having seen the Saban Alabama and Smart Georgia teams of the last several years, I have come to the conclusion that this hire is probably going to prove the most pivotal for Marcus Freeman. After all the five star recruits, transfers, bloated assistant coaching salaries and schemes it really comes down to the size and ferocity of your players. So much of the discussion is predicated on Saban, recruiting, facilities, academics, etc. but in the end the Bama and UGA guys should scare the hell out of anyone when they get off the bus. Then they put pads on and level most of whatever gets in their way.

The Stanford clubs of Harbaugh and early Shaw had some big dudes that rolled on people. I think Marcus Freeman might be hedging his tenure on having a team that can play some bully ball in the new 12 team playoff era, but the standard until further notice is Bama and UGA. You're going to have to have big strong dudes who can move now more than ever before.

 

[NDdomer2]

They talked a bit about Ole Miss/Kiffin playing Georgia this year. Said he knew during warm ups they were in trouble just based on the size of the Dawgs and knew he had to get bigger and stronger in the offseason.

 

[allenm5333]

Having seen the Saban Alabama and Smart Georgia teams of the last several years, I have come to the conclusion that this hire is probably going to prove the most pivotal for Marcus Freeman. After all the five star recruits, transfers, bloated assistant coaching salaries and schemes it really comes down to the size and ferocity of your players. So much of the discussion is predicated on Saban, recruiting, facilities, academics, etc. but in the end the Bama and UGA guys should scare the hell out of anyone when they get off the bus. Then they put pads on and level most of whatever gets in their way.

The Stanford clubs of Harbaugh and early Shaw had a trainer give them roids. I think Marcus Freeman might be hedging his tenure on having a team that can play some bully ball in the new 12 team playoff era, but the standard until further notice is Bama and UGA. You're going to have to have big strong dudes who can move now more than ever before.

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[Jiggafini19Deux]

They talked a bit about Ole Miss/Kiffin playing Georgia this year. Said he knew during warm ups they were in trouble just based on the size of the Dawgs and knew he had to get bigger and stronger in the offseason.

I think this has separated Bama and UGA for the last several years. We've had the Clemson, LSU, Ohio State blips yes. However on a consistent basis year in and year out these two programs have produced size and strength as just about every position on the field. I like the ND linebackers. They're smart, tough football kids. When you look at them and then look at the guys at the same position for Bama and UGA, there is a noticeable difference to the eye alone.

Then it goes to the NFL Combine and manifests itself in the sports science numbers.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

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Same accusations are leveled at this program during the Faust and Holtz years. Not sure what to tell you other than I suppose no one is beyond suspicion at any point if MLB 1990s has taught us anything.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I think this has separated Bama and UGA for the last several years. We've had the Clemson, LSU, Ohio State blips yes. However on a consistent basis year in and year out these two programs have produced size and strength as just about every position on the field. I like the ND linebackers. They're smart, tough football kids. When you look at them and then look at the guys at the same position for Bama and UGA, there is a noticeable difference to the eye alone.

Then it goes to the NFL Combine and manifests itself in the sports science numbers.

I was at the Orange Bowl yesterday. The size difference between UGA and FSU was almost laughable. Yes, I know FSU had a lot of guys out - but they didn't have a chance.

 

[Giddyup]

Imo Bama and UGA definitely have some sort of nfl concoction for their lineman. One can only guess what they give those guys nowadays. There’s definitely an unnatural size difference.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I was at the Orange Bowl yesterday. The size difference between UGA and FSU was almost laughable. Yes, I know FSU had a lot of guys out - but they didn't have a chance.

It isn't so much about yesterday as it is about the last several years watching them and the body of work. The guys they're sending into the NFL are being picked high and are contributing as starters. Marcus Freeman is tasked with getting Notre Dame to that point consistently. I think we've seen our share under Kelly, but not at a rate that has allowed the program to be a champion.

In addition to their size, there is a sense of urgency and ferocity these players have. They pursue and engage with extreme purpose.

 

[JamIrish]

I think this has separated Bama and UGA for the last several years. We've had the Clemson, LSU, Ohio State blips yes. However on a consistent basis year in and year out these two programs have produced size and strength as just about every position on the field. I like the ND linebackers. They're smart, tough football kids. When you look at them and then look at the guys at the same position for Bama and UGA, there is a noticeable difference to the eye alone.

Then it goes to the NFL Combine and manifests itself in the sports science numbers.

PSA- I had a debate with a certain talking head about ND's linebackers compared to GA/Bama's after he said he wouldn't trade our LB room for anyone's. He went on to try to tell me NDs linebackers (Liufau, Kiser, Bertrand, and Ziegler) were as athletic as theirs. Then he proceeded to say Drew White ran a faster 40 than Nakobe Dean so the narrative that ND doesn't have fast athletic linebackers is "simply not true". When I told him Georgia has LBs running 4.39-4.48 40s at 239-275 lbs and ND has 4.6 guys at best that weigh 225-230, he replied "Drew White is faster than Nakobe Dean".

I think ND needs to get more dudes at DT, LB, and S. The speed on the edge has increased greatly under Freeman but we still need to get bigger up the middle. One of the reasons why I don't understand why people keep saying Kiser is too small to play inside when we've had Bertrand, Drew White, and JOE SCHMIDT all manning the mike for multiple years.

Last thing I'll mention is I think the eyeball test has more to do with the kids Georgia and Bama recruit rather than a superior strength and Conditioning program. They recruit physically imposing guys at every position whether it's their size or speed. For example take Ogboko from Georgia and Sevillano for ND. Both 3 stars but one is 6'4 340 and the other is barely 6'0 315. Ogboko has the size/frame to carry 325 and not look sloppy where Sevillano looks stumpy and probably should weigh closer to 285. That's why guys like Young, Lambert, Jagusah, KVA, move the needle in that regard. Just take Keon Keeley for example: at ND he just looks different, where at BAMA, he's just another guy.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

It isn't so much about yesterday as it is about the last several years watching them and the body of work. The guys they're sending into the NFL are being picked high and are contributing as starters. Marcus Freeman is tasked with getting Notre Dame to that point consistently. I think we've seen our share under Kelly, but not at a rate that has allowed the program to be a champion.

In addition to their size, there is a sense of urgency and ferocity these players have. They pursue and engage with extreme purpose.

Yes, yes and yes. Also I dont necessarily think they are doing anything unscrupulous to have these guys make incredible gains. If you look at the size of the kids they are recruiting vs everybody else, these dudes are already enormous before they step foot on campus. They are just molding them into machines, helping them further develop and channel their Natural abilities.

 

[RipWheeler]

The new hotness is peptides. Would not be shocked if the top programs were using them in some form.

 

[stlnd01]

Yes, yes and yes. Also I dont necessarily think they are doing anything unscrupulous to have these guys make incredible gains. If you look at the size of the kids they are recruiting vs everybody else, these dudes are already enormous before they step foot on campus. They are just molding them into machines, helping them further develop and channel their Natural abilities.

Yep. They have their pick of recruits (unlike, say, Stanford). They have great coaching and culture. And after three or four years those guys are just dudes.

 

[Giddyup]

There’s always going to be a team trying to bend the rules. If you are dominant for a decade with all the overturn of players there’s a pretty good chance you’re using something. Think Nebraska under Osbourne.

 

[PANDFAN]

The new hotness is peptides. Would not be shocked if the top programs were using them in some form.

The only real peptides that are going to add much would be the gh peptide... and even to make that much of a difference would be extremely expensive since it requires several months to notice... some sarms also will add some muscle mass but nothing will add muscle more than a test base... from there anything can be stacked with it in terms of other anabolics such as tren, primo, masteron anavar etc... but I would highly highly doubt any strength trainer is encouraging this directly due to the sheer issues that could come from this...I'm not niave, and use myself.... big big thing is genetics and nutrition... and they are likely genetic freaks and are getting top of the line nutrition

 

[BoredIrish]

ND will never have the 5 stars that UGA and Bama do. The way to combat that is to have Seniors and 5th year 4 stars... Which gives the S&C staff more time to leave their mark.

If you can't recruit freaks, try to develop them.

 

[Giddyup]

when Bama’s o lineman go to the nfl they are usually just average because all lineman are on the same shit then.