Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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That's right, the one year Tommy had a starting offense of upperclassmen they went to the playoff. Also, his WRs consisted of a glorified TE in McKinley, a converted QB in Davis, and a Northwestern transfer in Sko. That position group had a ton of heart, but it wasn't a team of world beaters. They weren't close to a Devonta Smith. It was a cluster when the season started, it's amazing we ran the table. After that year we had mostly freshmen and sophomores starting in 2021 and 2022. Go look at the last two classes that Long and BK put together for 2019 and 2020, tell me what happened to those players. Mayer and Kyren were the only stars, and there were two decent contributors in Tyree and Correll, if you can say that. That's IT. All the rest of the players either transferred, moved to defense, or have yet to pan out. Every one of them. That's two full back to back classes that were almost completely wasted. Estime, Alt, Fisher, Evans, Thomas, and Rocco were all from Rees' first class, that class had a bigger impact with starters than both of those '19 and '20 classes combined. There's been some decent contributors from the '22 and '23 classes already too.
Point is he didn't walk into a great situation, but he did well given the circumstances. He left Parker in a better position than Long left him, and Parker blew it.
🤦🏻‍♂️ that 2020 offense had more talent and experience overall than this year. They made the playoffs, but still didnt really do shit against any defense with a pulse which was the statement you made about parker to which I replied saying Rees had the same problem. Not having any talent or experience at WR in todays game is a death sentence for an offense, we had to hit the portal for a QB or Tyler Buchner would have been our starter. The offense blew last year too for the most part. We scored 14 pts against Stanford. 10 against Ohio State. I just dont see the same thing you do I guess.
 

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🤦🏻‍♂️ that 2020 offense had more talent and experience overall than this year. They made the playoffs, but still didnt really do shit against any defense with a pulse which was the statement you made about parker to which I replied saying Rees had the same problem. Not having any talent or experience at WR in todays game is a death sentence for an offense, we had to hit the portal for a QB or Tyler Buchner would have been our starter. The offense blew last year too for the most part. We scored 14 pts against Stanford. 10 against Ohio State. I just dont see the same thing you do I guess.
Oh! what are you talking about? The offense was magnificent last year. We 3 and outed a lot , but only by design. Rees is so great and Parker is simply horrid.
 

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OK....who here trades on Webull with the user name FreemanEra and has the Irishman as their avatar?
 

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That's right, the one year Tommy had a starting offense of upperclassmen they went to the playoff. Also, his WRs consisted of a glorified TE in McKinley, a converted QB in Davis, and a Northwestern transfer in Sko. That position group had a ton of heart, but it wasn't a team of world beaters. They weren't close to a Devonta Smith. It was a cluster when the season started, it's amazing we ran the table. After that year we had mostly freshmen and sophomores starting in 2021 and 2022. Go look at the last two classes that Long and BK put together for 2019 and 2020, tell me what happened to those players. Mayer and Kyren were the only stars, and there were two decent contributors in Tyree and Correll, if you can say that. That's IT. All the rest of the players either transferred, moved to defense, or have yet to pan out. Every one of them. That's two full back to back classes that were almost completely wasted. Estime, Alt, Fisher, Evans, Thomas, and Rocco were all from Rees' first class, that class had a bigger impact with starters than both of those '19 and '20 classes combined. There's been some decent contributors from the '22 and '23 classes already too.
Point is he didn't walk into a great situation, but he did well given the circumstances. He left Parker in a better position than Long left him, and Parker blew it.
McKinley, Davis and Skowronek were each easily better receivers than Tyree was this year. But keep framing them as walkons, and act like others are the ones trolling instead of you.
 

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I guess this can go here. This is what other college football thinks.

No way is Colorado is on a better path than us nor Wisconsin, Miami, hahaha this is BS.

The best way to 'Rile Up' a fan base is by opines and unclear conclusions..... Imagine how TN, Clemson and FL fan bases feel reading that tweet.
 

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Colorado is the dumpsterest of fires right now lol. But yeah this is just clickbait like most social media posts are.
 

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I guess this can go here. This is what other college football thinks.

No way is Colorado is on a better path than us nor Wisconsin, Miami, hahaha this is BS.

Usc is “consistently good” and we aren’t?


Their win loss record the last ten years is literally the definition of inconsistent ha ha
 

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Listing USC and Florida State as "consistently good" but not Notre Dame or Clemson is an interesting take.
 

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I would put ND in the "bright futures" or "consistently good" category.

Freeman won 10 games last year and has a chance to end the season with 10 wins- consistently.

With more experience I think Freeman can be one of the brighter coaches in the game.
 

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I would put ND in the "bright futures" or "consistently good" category.

Freeman won 10 games last year and has a chance to end the season with 10 wins- consistently.

With more experience I think Freeman can be one of the brighter coaches in the game.
The list of teams that have been more “consistently good” than Notre Dame over the last seven seasons is pretty short. There’s really no reason to think that’s changing.
 

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From a talent standpoint, Freeman clearly has this program pointed way up. Since the 24 class filled up early, it's easy to not appreciate how good it is. Currently the #7 class on Rivals with a 3.83(!) star average. That happens to be higher than Alabama (3.76), who also has more 3 Stars than us (7 of their 21 commits vs. 5 of our 23).

2024 Rivals Team Rankings

In our currently top-rated 25 Class, 9 of 10 are 4 stars. Our blue chip ratio should equate to our floor being a Top 20 team on the field. If Parker can just be average or slightly above it, that floor should rise to a Top 12 playoff team.

While I'm not confident in Parker whatsoever, I am optimistic that the WR room can never be worse than it was this past year, most of which was beyond his control (injuries & past-recruiting misses). When you are heavily relying on a converted RB, 3 true frosh (including a lacrosse player), and a gazelle with no hands, there is only so much you can do. Jamie U has written about how reliant we have been on young/inexperienced WR's in recent years and how that is never a recipe for success. WIth some veterans coming in, the young bucks a year older, and a mobile QB, there are no excuses to be unproductive against good D's. If he fails, hire a big swinging d*ck OC in 25 and let Carr or Minchey loose.
 

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It's "futures of", as in how have you adapted to NIL, how suppprtive is admin, who is your coach, what is your talent level going forward, etc.

Last 10 years have little/nothing to do with it.
 

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I would say the "unclear" is probably more about realignment than the current state of the program talent and/or coach wise. When the wheels are finally done turning, where do we end up in all of this. With conference schedules of the future with these 20 team conferences, will we be able to consistently schedule enough quality teams to be considered legitimate without ultimately having to join a conference.
I know ND equates to $, but with the new schedules a lot of teams are going to end up playing 5-7 difficult teams a year and the schedules are going to be grueling. How many of them are going to want to add ND to an OOC schedule.

One thing I can say for sure, i love what realignment will do to the schedules overall. There is going to be a lot of good football games played every week.
 

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I would say the "unclear" is probably more about realignment than the current state of the program talent and/or coach wise. When the wheels are finally done turning, where do we end up in all of this. With conference schedules of the future with these 20 team conferences, will we be able to consistently schedule enough quality teams to be considered legitimate without ultimately having to join a conference.
I know ND equates to $, but with the new schedules a lot of teams are going to end up playing 5-7 difficult teams a year and the schedules are going to be grueling. How many of them are going to want to add ND to an OOC schedule.

One thing I can say for sure, i love what realignment will do to the schedules overall. There is going to be a lot of good football games played every week.
We end up in the Big Ten. It's the only move.

But that's 5-10 years away. This isn't looking that far ahead. It's just trolling.
 

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I guess this can go here. This is what other college football thinks.

No way is Colorado is on a better path than us nor Wisconsin, Miami, hahaha this is BS.


New Mexico (NOT New Mexico State) is listed as bright future… this list is just a big load of crap. I don’t care if they hired Mendenhall, they’re a G5 team - the only one in the graphic (others will be P4 or were P5)
 

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We end up in the Big Ten. It's the only move.

But that's 5-10 years away. This isn't looking that far ahead. It's just trolling.

See, I feel like if it is looking at the next 1-2 years, it raises legitimate questions. Unless the 1-3 traditional powerhouses we have on the schedule have very good seasons in the year we play them, and we win, I dont know how our schedule stacks up against a team that might have 2 losses, but played 6-7 top 30 teams in terms of playoff worthiness.

It might not be the best list, but its far from Trolling which implies intentionality.
 

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See, I feel like if it is looking at the next 1-2 years, it raises legitimate questions. Unless the 1-3 traditional powerhouses we have on the schedule have very good seasons in the year we play them, and we win, I dont know how our schedule stacks up against a team that might have 2 losses, but played 6-7 top 30 teams in terms of playoff worthiness.

It might not be the best list, but its far from Trolling which implies intentionality.
I think you're overthinking this.

But if you want to play that game, take Michigan.
After running up wins playing Ohio State and 11 Dwarfs for the last couple years, next year they have Texas, USC, @Washington, Oregon and @Ohio State. They lose a ton to graduation including a multi-year QB, have had fairly weak recruiting classes lately, and who the fuck knows if their coach will be around or even how many scholarships they'll have when the NCAA is through with them.
But they're a consistent title contender in the new world order? They are the definition of "unclear." But they've made the CFP three years straight. So there they are.

I think our placement on that chart is entirely about skepticism of Freeman. Which is fair but also pretty basic and surface-level. Also whoever runs that thread just dislikes Notre Dame. They once listed the best Mexican restaurant in South Bend as Qdoba. Which is a clear sign of trolling when there's also Chipotle.
 

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They definitely look quicker and faster than previous ND teams. Ohio State and USC didn’t demonstrate any noticeable advantage in speed or athleticism.
This post stuck with me and I'd given this a great deal of thought. Went back and watched these two games again. Most certainly the case.

Go back and watch the games against those two last year. There was a remarkable difference between 2023 compared to 2022.
 

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🤦🏻‍♂️ that 2020 offense had more talent and experience overall than this year. They made the playoffs, but still didnt really do shit against any defense with a pulse which was the statement you made about parker to which I replied saying Rees had the same problem. Not having any talent or experience at WR in todays game is a death sentence for an offense, we had to hit the portal for a QB or Tyler Buchner would have been our starter. The offense blew last year too for the most part. We scored 14 pts against Stanford. 10 against Ohio State. I just dont see the same thing you do I guess.
2020 was more experienced for sure, simply because it was an entire roster of 4th and 5th year seniors except for Kyren and Patterson was a Junior. More talented? Debatable. Eichenberg was good, Alt is better. Hainsey was a late 3rd rounder, Fisher is projected Round 2-3. Kraemer went undrafted, I think one of our guards will do better, but Banks and Patterson probably go over Craig and whoever the other guard will be. Call the OL a wash. I'd still take Book over Hartman, although I think Hartman was held back this year and he scored more TDs while Book edged him in yards. Estime vs. Kyren is hard, both are very good, I can't pick there, but as a position group 2023 was much deeper. Tyree was better than Davis in the Slot just based on stats, and if you throw Greathouse and Faison in there too the Slot looks much lot better in 2023. It's hard to gauge the outside receivers this year since Thomas and Colzie were injured much of the year, so I'll give it to 2020 there even though the 2020 WR group past the starters really struggled. Evans and Staes were comparable to a young Mayer and Tremble statistically.

More than anything, the point is we had some very good starters across this board this year and we were deeper at most positions than we were in 2020. Who were our 2nd team receivers in 2020: Joe Wilkins, Lawrence Keys, and Braden Lenzy. How do they compare to Greathouse, Rico, and Faison? How about RBs? It was Kyren and a freshman Tyree vs. Estime, Love, Payne, and Price. At TE Brock Wright and Tommy Tremble were the starters, but we threw more to a freshman Michael Mayer and never threw to Wright. In 2023 we had Evans, Staes, Raridon, Flanagan. I won't even do all of QB, after Book it was Clark. We were deeper at pretty much every position this year, and that was because we recruited better after Long was ejected. Again, it goes back to starting mostly freshmen and sophomores in 2021 and 2022 because of those Long/BK weak classes. You can't expect success when most of your starters are 18-19 year olds, a healthy team recruiting decently each year should be almost exclusively starting upperclassmen with one or two exceptional underclassmen if they're superstars.
 
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