Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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tussin said:
After watching the games today, I just can’t believe how bad ND (and MF) fucked up this OC hire. If you swap Porker for a top ten OC then this is a clear playoff team and likely a natty favorite. This was the year.
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I agree to a degree but it's deeper.
 
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The talent was there. Sure, the injuries at WR caused some trouble, but that didn't stop us from destroying weaker teams. With Parker it was feast or famine, when we needed any kind of offense against teams with a pulse defensively he couldn't put together shit.
 
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indianamouse said:
I still believe in Freeman. His recruiting is starting to stack talent on talent, something the previous regime failed to do for certain positions. Yeah his in game coaching needs work, but there is not 1 game so far in his tenure that you can say we didn't belong. Have patience, he will deliver.
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I didn't say the story was written in stone. I said it's time to start questioning based on things we've seen on field and off field.
 
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Piss on this "revisited" trash, too.
 
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A really good hit hustle today about making sure your roster management is on point.

Gotta give MF credit for that!
 
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IrishLax said:
Freeman has done wonders to overhaul the roster in two years. It's remarkable. Has to fix some "game day" and schematic stuff on offense... and he needs to fill the void left by Balis... but he's checking all of the other boxes.
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They definitely look quicker and faster than previous ND teams. Ohio State and USC didn’t demonstrate any noticeable advantage in speed or athleticism.
 
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IrishLax said:
Freeman has done wonders to overhaul the roster in two years. It's remarkable. Has to fix some "game day" and schematic stuff on offense... and he needs to fill the void left by Balis... but he's checking all of the other boxes.
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Offense needs significant improvement, and the S&C hire will be huge. ND doesn't get better in 2024 unless both of those factors tick up.
 
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ulukinatme said:
The talent was there. Sure, the injuries at WR caused some trouble, but that didn't stop us from destroying weaker teams. With Parker it was feast or famine, when we needed any kind of offense against teams with a pulse defensively he couldn't put together shit.
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That’s the same as was the case with Rees. At least Parker seems like a nice person unlike Rees who everyone hated.
 
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ulukinatme said:
The talent was there. Sure, the injuries at WR caused some trouble, but that didn't stop us from destroying weaker teams. With Parker it was feast or famine, when we needed any kind of offense against teams with a pulse defensively he couldn't put together shit.
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How is this any different than the offense under Rees? Couldnt do crap against Bama in the playoff game. Couldnt do crap against Clemson on ACC championship. The following year the offense didnt do crap against Wisconsin or Cincy, the only two defenses with a pulse. Completely shit the bed in the 2nd half against OSU in the bowl game.
 
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Te'o4Heisman said:
How is this any different than the offense under Rees? Couldnt do crap against Bama in the playoff game. Couldnt do crap against Clemson on ACC championship. The following year the offense didnt do crap against Wisconsin or Cincy, the only two defenses with a pulse. Completely shit the bed in the 2nd half against OSU in the bowl game.
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Rees was also starting mostly inexperienced freshmen and sophomores those seasons because Long and BK crapped the bed in recruiting. Parker didn't have that excuse, he had a full compliment of upperclassmen that were experienced because of those previous seasons. We poured the points on cupcakes this year because of talent. Coaching was the difference in the tight games, with Parker often coming up on the short end. Parker lost to a Clemson team we destroyed in all 3 facets last season. Rees put 37 points on a very good Oklahoma State defense, among other good teams. Parker scored basically the same number of points against OSU as Rees did despite having a superior QB and playing at home. He scored 5 TDs between the OSU->Duke->Louisville games. They're not the same.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Rees was also starting mostly inexperienced freshmen and sophomores those seasons because Long and BK crapped the bed in recruiting. Parker didn't have that excuse, he had a full compliment of upperclassmen that were experienced because of those previous seasons. We poured the points on cupcakes this year because of talent. Coaching was the difference in the tight games, with Parker often coming up on the short end. Parker lost to a Clemson team we destroyed in all 3 facets last season. Rees put 37 points on a very good Oklahoma State defense, among other good teams. Parker scored basically the same number of points against OSU as Rees did despite having a superior QB and playing at home. He scored 5 TDs between the OSU->Duke->Louisville games. They're not the same.
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WRs?
 
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ulukinatme said:
Rees was also starting mostly inexperienced freshmen and sophomores those seasons because Long and BK crapped the bed in recruiting.
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Long was a way better recruiter than Rees. Rees was a walking disaster who left the QB position and WR room ferked. Thankfully Freeman did a good job cleaning up the mess by getting Hartman in.
Parker has to be given 2 years to try to turn around the BK/Rees disaster area.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Rees was also starting mostly inexperienced freshmen and sophomores those seasons because Long and BK crapped the bed in recruiting. Parker didn't have that excuse, he had a full compliment of upperclassmen that were experienced because of those previous seasons. We poured the points on cupcakes this year because of talent. Coaching was the difference in the tight games, with Parker often coming up on the short end. Parker lost to a Clemson team we destroyed in all 3 facets last season. Rees put 37 points on a very good Oklahoma State defense, among other good teams. Parker scored basically the same number of points against OSU as Rees did despite having a superior QB and playing at home. He scored 5 TDs between the OSU->Duke->Louisville games. They're not the same.
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I like you, but for whatever reason you’re a little delusional when it comes to Tommy Rees.
Two brand new guards, zero returning experience and/or talent at the WR positions, and a first year TE is far from a full compliment of experienced players. This year, we had an experienced QB, although in an entirely different system, a legit experienced RB, two tackles and a shitty returning Center that got eaten alive all year. In 2020 Tommy had a very experienced Ian Book, Avery Davis, Lenzy, Javon McKinley and very experienced Skowronek at WR. Kyren Fuckin Williams at RB, Mayer, Brock Wright, and Tommy Tremble at TE, and guys up front with experience like Aaron Banks, Tommy Kraemer, Jarrett Patterson, Robert Hainsey, and Eichenberg. There were 6 offensive players taken in the draft that year, 4 of them in the top 3 rounds. Who are the 4 offensive players going in the draft at all this year, let alone top 3 rounds.
This attempted argument is baseless and kind of ridiculous.
 
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Te'o4Heisman said:
I like you, but for whatever reason you’re a little delusional when it comes to Tommy Rees.
Two brand new guards, zero returning experience and/or talent at the WR positions, and a first year TE is far from a full compliment of experienced players. This year, we had an experienced QB, although in an entirely different system, a legit experienced RB, two tackles and a shitty returning Center that got eaten alive all year. In 2020 Tommy had a very experienced Ian Book, Avery Davis, Lenzy, Javon McKinley and very experienced Skowronek at WR. Kyren Fuckin Williams at RB, Mayer, Brock Wright, and Tommy Tremble at TE, and guys up front with experience like Aaron Banks, Tommy Kraemer, Jarrett Patterson, Robert Hainsey, and Eichenberg. There were 6 offensive players taken in the draft that year, 4 of them in the top 3 rounds. Who are the 4 offensive players going in the draft at all this year, let alone top 3 rounds.
This attempted argument is baseless and kind of ridiculous.
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That's right, the one year Tommy had a starting offense of upperclassmen they went to the playoff. Also, his WRs consisted of a glorified TE in McKinley, a converted QB in Davis, and a Northwestern transfer in Sko. That position group had a ton of heart, but it wasn't a team of world beaters. They weren't close to a Devonta Smith. It was a cluster when the season started, it's amazing we ran the table. After that year we had mostly freshmen and sophomores starting in 2021 and 2022. Go look at the last two classes that Long and BK put together for 2019 and 2020, tell me what happened to those players. Mayer and Kyren were the only stars, and there were two decent contributors in Tyree and Correll, if you can say that. That's IT. All the rest of the players either transferred, moved to defense, or have yet to pan out. Every one of them. That's two full back to back classes that were almost completely wasted. Estime, Alt, Fisher, Evans, Thomas, and Rocco were all from Rees' first class, that class had a bigger impact with starters than both of those '19 and '20 classes combined. There's been some decent contributors from the '22 and '23 classes already too.
Point is he didn't walk into a great situation, but he did well given the circumstances. He left Parker in a better position than Long left him, and Parker blew it.
 
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ulukinatme said:
That's right, the one year Tommy had a starting offense of upperclassmen they went to the playoff. Also, his WRs consisted of a glorified TE in McKinley, a converted QB in Davis, and a Northwestern transfer in Sko. That position group had a ton of heart, but it wasn't a team of world beaters. They weren't close to a Devonta Smith. It was a cluster when the season started, it's amazing we ran the table. After that year we had mostly freshmen and sophomores starting in 2021 and 2022. Go look at the last two classes that Long and BK put together for 2019 and 2020, tell me what happened to those players. Mayer and Kyren were the only stars, and there were two decent contributors in Tyree and Correll, if you can say that. That's IT. All the rest of the players either transferred, moved to defense, or have yet to pan out. Every one of them. That's two full back to back classes that were almost completely wasted. Estime, Alt, Fisher, Evans, Thomas, and Rocco were all from Rees' first class, that class had a bigger impact with starters than both of those '19 and '20 classes combined. There's been some decent contributors from the '22 and '23 classes already too.
Point is he didn't walk into a great situation, but he did well given the circumstances. He left Parker in a better position than Long left him, and Parker blew it.
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I am actually at the point of blocking you over this shit.
 
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