‘21 AL QB Riley Leonard (Duke Transfer - Notre Dame Verbal)

[forkbeard3777]

You're saying his uncle is black

You knew where I was going with that...

 

[Junkhead]

At least he’ll be able to take off running when Porkers shitty play calls aren’t working!

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I just don't see this signing moving the needle. Three years in a row that we've gone out and signed quarterbacks for 1 year and no difference and you think this is the guy...lol

Wrong.

They didn't sign one last year and ended up going 8-4 with Drew Fucking Pyne most of the season. Jack Coan, Sam Hartman, and Riley Leonard will prove to be massive upgrades over what they had on the roster and w/o them, the record will indicate mediocre seasons that are good enough to get head coaches fired.

 

[Luckylucci]

It's a huge recruiting win for Freeman and staff. Whether the production matches the recruiting victory, continues to be the question for this staff.

 

[KPENN]

It's a huge recruiting win for Freeman and staff. Whether the production matches the recruiting victory, continues to be the question for this staff.

In a 12 team playoff they certainly have a playoff roster. The coaching staff needs to step up to match the talent.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Having a running QB is going to be a game changer how many times did our inability to pick up 4th and 1 cost us this past year? Def cost us against Ohio State. I think OL next year is the biggest question mark hopefully the guys are ready to ball out.

 

[tko]

I still can't get over that he could have been an NFL draft pick

But ND injured him, and now got him...
Oh the irony
Devine intervention

Dan Devine was a terrible coach!

 

[NDFan8349]

Looks like we are playing the game with the big boys now NIL wise. Only thing we need is a Stallions clone and we are set!!!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Looks like we are playing the game with the big boys now NIL wise. Only thing we need is a Stallions clone and we are set!!!

The guy is a master of disguise. We could probably put him on staff and nobody would know.

 

[ColinKSU]

Wrong.

They didn't sign one last year and ended up going 8-4 with Drew Fucking Pyne most of the season. Jack Coan, Sam Hartman, and Riley Leonard will prove to be massive upgrades over what they had on the roster and w/o them, the record will indicate mediocre seasons that are good enough to get head coaches fired.

It's almost like Tommy Rees was a failure as a QB recruiter/developer at Notre Dame.

 

[NDMatt91]

It's almost like Tommy Rees was a failure as a QB recruiter/developer at Notre Dame.

Yep, and Freeman made the big mistake of trusting Tommy that they didn't need a grad transfer heading into 2022. Thankfully he has learned from that.

 

[ulukinatme]

It's almost like Tommy Rees was a failure as a QB recruiter/developer at Notre Dame.

I think you misspelled Brian Kelly. Rees brought in Hartman, Minchey, and Carr once BK left, and then turned Milroe into a Heisman contender at Bama.

 

[indianamouse]

I think you misspelled Brian Kelly. Rees brought in Hartman, Minchey, and Carr once BK left, and then turned Milroe into a Heisman contender at Bama.

tbf, Brian Kelly turned his qb into a heisman winner

 

[sfk324]

It's almost like Tommy Rees was a failure as a QB recruiter/developer at Notre Dame.

Tommy definitely deserves his share of the blame for the shape of the QB room with Buchner/Pyne. But let's not forget who was ultimately responsible for the poor recruiting. Tommy wasn't the one who said ND had to shop down a different aisle.

 

[ulukinatme]

tbf, Brian Kelly turned his qb into a heisman winner

He did, but he also walked into a pretty decent situation from a roster standpoint. Coach O could recruit, he just wasn't great with the X's and O's. LSU is great from a lazy BK standpoint, he doesn't have to leave the state for much of their talent.

 

[Dizzyphil]

I think you misspelled Brian Kelly. Rees brought in Hartman, Minchey, and Carr once BK left, and then turned Milroe into a Heisman contender at Bama.

^^This^^ - and to add... Rees > Kelly in the sense of having the mindset to change QB starter with abilities over loyalties....

 

[notredomer23]

siap - When can RL join the team? Can he be like Carr and join for Bowl practice?

Not sure on when he can join technically, but he will be joining in January. He will stay with Duke but not play until after their bowl.

 

[ulukinatme]

I really don't understand the view point of all the people that are complaining about ND going to portal to get a QB. I've seen dozens of people in chats and forums say that going to the portal will cause guys to leave. So say we didn't go to the portal and Angeli was named the starter...he's a guy who is perceived not to have NFL talent so he would be at ND for 3 years. Do people really think that Carr or Minchey will transfer sitting behind Leonard for a year but wait it out for 3 years behind Angeli? Would Angeli stay if Minchey was named the starter? And if it was Carr, you risk both Minchey and Angeli leaving because they're not waiting 3 years to start. Bringing Leonard for one year was the right move. Next year you let Minchey and Carr compete because you'll have Deuce at least if one of Carr or Minchey leave. You don't want a 3 year starter at QB with the portal because talented QBs aren't waiting that long and it could hurt depth and recruiting. I think that's what happened with Ian Book.

Most people are happy about Leonard here I think. I've probably pushed back the most, and only because I'm not sold. He had one decent year last year, then this year was marred by injuries. People are expecting playoff next year, but I'm not seeing why we should expect more than what we got from Hartman this season (Even with the expansion to 12 teams). Hartman had at least 2 seasons at Wake that were far better than any Leonard had. There's also the fact we're going to be playing a lot of new guys next season. Leonard will likely be guaranteed the starting spot and I kind of want a QB competition next year between Angeli, Minchey, and Carr.

Here's the thing: I don't expect us to be ready offensively next season for a playoff run, especially if we're rolling with Parker at OC. I'd rather get someone experience that we know will be here in 2025 and build a rapport with our young WRs. I hope Leonard proves me wrong and wins a Natty.

 

[thekid33]

Ah, the TR and BK QB debate again.

Both to blame.

BK was a lazy recruiter and poor judge of QB talent as a recruiter. Some of that might have rubbed off on TR when BK was here.
But, TR got 8 wins out of Drew Pyne last year and signed Carr and Minchey after BK left.

BK got a lot of of Daniels and has an easier time recruiting now, despite being lazy. TR turned Milroe (who looked awful to start the year) into a playoff QB.

It will be interesting to see what happens with TR does at Bama with recruiting moving forward if he stays a few years.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Cause people will bitch about anything. Oh...its sunny and 90....its too fucking hot. It's cloudy and 40...oh its too fucking cold. Oh hey let's roll into 2024 with a qb that has played in garbage time....fuck no....go get the best qb this day and age and roll with it. With the portal now if someone wants to leave....sorry

Without a doubt, and in case anyone didn't notice, there are some carpet pissers on this board.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Most people are happy about Leonard here I think. I've probably pushed back the most, and only because I'm not sold. He had one decent year last year, then this year was marred by injuries. People are expecting playoff next year, but I'm not seeing why we should expect more than what we got from Hartman this season (Even with the expansion to 12 teams). Hartman had at least 2 seasons at Wake that were far better than any Leonard had. There's also the fact we're going to be playing a lot of new guys next season. Leonard will likely be guaranteed the starting spot and I kind of want a QB competition next year between Angeli, Minchey, and Carr.

Here's the thing: I don't expect us to be ready offensively next season for a playoff run, especially if we're rolling with Parker at OC. I'd rather get someone experience that we know will be here in 2025 and build a rapport with our young WRs.

IF Riley wins the QB slot.... OL will still be the '?'...and Parker

 

[Grahambo]

It's a huge recruiting win for Freeman and staff. Whether the production matches the recruiting victory, continues to be the question for this staff.

And you know MF did his homework because of all the game tape they watched leading up to the Duke game. Not to mention, probably have a good idea of his weaknesses.

If RL is healthy all year and the season is a disaster, we can question MFs ability. He’s sticking by Parker. Hired his WRs coach. Replaced the S&C coach. Hired the OL coach. This is on him now.

 

[NDWarrior]

Yeah, that is still my concern - G-Rad Porkiere. I love what MF is doing attacking portal, weeding out the negative, so awesome roster management and building for 2024, BUT at the end of the day, what will the O look like? What’s the plan for it to be different in 2024. I for one don’t see WF and Stanford games as proof of any adjustments - We were just way better. I mean is MF going to go with the same approach for 2024 with GP and that O? One thing RL will need is mentoring and development. Hartman was very senior and he had challenges although RL can certainly run better. All it takes is a top playoff team like ‘bama to crowd the box and be all over RL and the game is over. We’ve seen that story before.

 

[Lberry]

Has Porker ever ran RPO? I assume that's our new offense with Riley. Kind of a big deal that no one's talking about.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Has Porker ever ran RPO? I assume that's our new offense with Riley. Kind of a big deal that no one's talking about.

It was reported (mostly Driskell) that in fall camp there was a lot of RPO used.
But obviously, that didn't happen much this year.

But indications are that Parker wants RPO and Freeman does (did?) not.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

I just don't see this signing moving the needle. Three years in a row that we've gone out and signed quarterbacks for 1 year and no difference and you think this is the guy...lol

I tend to agree. Everyone was rock hard for Hartman, too, and it turned out he was the mid ACC guy he was before.

 

[NDMatt91]

Within the last week or two, the ISD guys said something along the lines of Parker wouldn't have taken Deuce Knight if the plan was to run the offense we saw this year. I hope they're right.

 

[SoIll]

It was reported (mostly Driskell) that in fall camp there was a lot of RPO used.
But obviously, that didn't happen much this year.

But indications are that Parker wants RPO and Freeman does (did?) not.

Which is why I am not 100% blaming/out on Parker. This was not his offense. It was what Freeman wanted to run.

 

[LifelongFan]

If it's a personnel issue, we now have Porker's ideal QB, WRs, and the running game to move everything. There is no excuse for this to not be a playoff team next season besides bad coaching and scouting. It's make or break for Freeman and his staff, point blank.

 

[Giddyup]

Maybe it was the administration. Didn’t give TR or BK the big bucks or opportunity to get the guys we can bring in now.

We know both guys can coach.