Gerad Parker - Troy Head Coach :)

[ulukinatme]

Funny, for a Catholic University who preaches forgivingness of sins, we sure do have a habit of not forgiving people.

Some things, like football, are more important than the Catholic church.
I strongly considered no italics there.

 

[Old Man Mike]

uh. boo

 

[Giddyup]

Nobody really wants to sit with the tax collectors and prostitutes.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Parker in his PC this week talks about how he really wants to use PA more, but we got into a throw it mode when we fell behind vs louisville. We were up, it was tied, we were down, but it was always within a one score game until 4 minutes into the fourth. We had 9 possessions and 47 plays before it became a 2 possession game. We hardly ran any PA in those 47 plays while they were loading the box to stop the run.


First play offensively of second half after louisville fumble, this is the play parker and staff drew up in the halftime break as the great play to run. 14 personnel (Yes 4 TEs). We were on left hash and overloaded the left side with 3 of the 4 TEs, so louisville overloaded that side as well. We run a slow frichan pitch to the overloaded boundary side with estime. Fisher RT has no chance to pull and get to the MLB, plus Staes gets whipped, evans misses his block. There was almost no chance of that play working against all 11 louisville had in the box. WTF are we doing. Loss of 5 is what we are doing on a run play. The crazy part is, louisville over played the run so bad, if estime is patient and cuts back, he probably has a house call. But again, that's what parker is calling, plays where if all 9 blockers and our RB execute it perfectly we take it to the house, one mistake no gain, multiple mistakes we lose yards.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Next possession we go 4 wide, 6 in box, we run for easy 6 on first down. Then we get to third and short jumbo package. Fisher and spindler block wrong, raridon blocks wrong, about 2-3 unblocked defenders in the backfield on third and short since we had 8 to block 10. Bad play call, worse execution. .

On this third and short play, they had a corner on Tobias out wide playing press, with the safety in the box. They literally played press coverage with the entire field wide open to work with. This must be a big play in the pass game or you have no shot to be good, if you don't have one wr that can exploit press man with no help and an entire field to work with, no chance.

 

[Ndaccountant]

The scary part is this might be as good as it gets. Hartman has five more regular season games left. Come spring they're looking for a new QB1 among Angeli, Minchey and Carr. Seeing what has happened to this point, is anyone in his right mind going to come to ND via the portal?

I wonder where Gino G is in all of this. He was calling plays at UC a year ago and is down on the sidelines seeing it from there. I would hope that he speaks up in the meeting room.

I mean, Sam got paid. If you are a QB in the portal, chances are you are looking for starting gig and pay, not in that order. As long as nd pays, yes, I believe they can get help in the portal.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Funny, for a Catholic University who preaches forgivingness of sins, we sure do have a habit of not forgiving people.

I think it was all bullshit so Auburn had a reason to jettison him.

 

[IrishLax]

Next possession we go 4 wide, 6 in box, we run for easy 6 on first down. Then we get to third and short jumbo package. Fisher and spindler block wrong, raridon blocks wrong, about 2-3 unblocked defenders in the backfield on third and short since we had 8 to block 10. Bad play call, worse execution. .

On this third and short play, they had a corner on Tobias out wide playing press, with the safety in the box. They literally played press coverage with the entire field wide open to work with. This must be a big play in the pass game or you have no shot to be good, if you don't have one wr that can exploit press man with no help and an entire field to work with, no chance.

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This is correct, you need to take a shot here. The reason our 3rd down offense is horrible is -- in part -- that we are not making them defend the whole field. We are running plays to try to get 1 yard on 3rd and 1 instead of being like "hey some of these times this could be a great opportunity to get a chunk play"... just cowardly, dumb football.

 

[PutuporShutup]

This is correct, you need to take a shot here. The reason our 3rd down offense is horrible is -- in part -- that we are not making them defend the whole field. We are running plays to try to get 1 yard on 3rd and 1 instead of being like "hey some of these times this could be a great opportunity to get a chunk play"... just cowardly, dumb football.

Yep, also, this is a simple simple qb sneak as well on third and half yard. Louisville wasn’t even playing qb sneak as an option. On this play our front four from roco to alt smothered their 3 down linemen.

To your point … on first down we run a lot of run plays designed to get a td or nothing. Very risky and difficult to have consistency. Then we go for a yard when other teams are giving us what should be a better than 50% chance at td… right now I’d prefer to see tyree or faison as single wr out wide with their speed

If that was nd playing osu with Harrison out wide in short yardage we’d be in nickel, safety over the top and Harper or safety taking away quick slant. Nd would play 3 on Harrison forcing the run to prevent the big play. Teams are playing nd to all out stop run and daring us to throw…

 

[PutuporShutup]

Usc corners are injured and bad… if usc sells our vs run and to get pressure on Hartman we need tyree and faison to have big days

 

[Valpodoc85]

Beyond the play calling and general hand waving we still have issues with fundamentals. Too many penalties, generally lousy special teams, guys missing assignments missed tackles. I could go on. I blame the coaching staff for fielding a half baked product

 

[irish4ever]

Usc corners are injured and bad… if usc sells our vs run and to get pressure on Hartman we need tyree and faison to have big days

Ain't gonna happen!

 

[Irish8248]

Next possession we go 4 wide, 6 in box, we run for easy 6 on first down. Then we get to third and short jumbo package. Fisher and spindler block wrong, raridon blocks wrong, about 2-3 unblocked defenders in the backfield on third and short since we had 8 to block 10. Bad play call, worse execution. .

On this third and short play, they had a corner on Tobias out wide playing press, with the safety in the box. They literally played press coverage with the entire field wide open to work with. This must be a big play in the pass game or you have no shot to be good, if you don't have one wr that can exploit press man with no help and an entire field to work with, no chance.

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Say what you want about this post but it's 3rd and 1 on a3rd down situation we have not been successful in all game. Chunk pays, deep threats -- sure... but can we just get the 1 yd without losing yds too move the chains? I'm not advocating every opportunity but the game dictated the need to extend drives one play at a time and that's what we should have been focused on. It should be 2 downs to get 1 yd, shouldn't be difficult. Just event the drive to live another day

 

[IrishLax]

Say what you want about this post but it's 3rd and 1 on a3rd down situation we have not been successful in all game. Chunk pays, deep threats -- sure... but can we just get the 1 yd without losing yds too move the chains? I'm not advocating every opportunity but the game dictated the need to extend drives one play at a time and that's what we should have been focused on. It should be 2 downs to get 1 yd, shouldn't be difficult. Just event the drive to live another day

The thing is... when you put literally your entire team where we want to run the ball, you are supposed to be good enough / smart enough to "take what the defense gives you". For most teams if Louisville lines up in some asinine defense like that it's a TD. Texas, Bama, USC, Michigan, etc. it's just an easy TD or big gain for the single covered WR who has no help AND has to play them straight up on the wide side of the field.

I don't disagree with you that ND "should" be able to get a yard against any defensive alignment, but I just feel we are making it wayyyyyyyyy harder on ourselves than it needs to be through bad coaching.

 

[PutuporShutup]

The thing is... when you put literally your entire team where we want to run the ball, you are supposed to be good enough / smart enough to "take what the defense gives you". For most teams if Louisville lines up in some asinine defense like that it's a TD. Texas, Bama, USC, Michigan, etc. it's just an easy TD or big gain for the single covered WR who has no help AND has to play them straight up on the wide side of the field.

I don't disagree with you that ND "should" be able to get a yard against any defensive alignment, but I just feel we are making it wayyyyyyyyy harder on ourselves than it needs to be through bad coaching.

Our wrs are capable of catching the ball if wide open so spreading teams out will then thin the box out allowing our oline to have a shot. We should have either sneaked for one yard or thrown a ball that’s got a chance for a td… no other option vs this D alignment. If he fakes it to pyne he has the entire field to lead Tobias on a slant or deep ball… could even leak one of the 3 tes on the field too…I’d prefer tyree Thomas or faison, greathouse too when healthy out wide over Tobias until he proves himself

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Fortuna reported that the UL coaching staff was shocked that ND swapped out their OL like they did…especially center. He also said one of the coaches told him frankly, “we outcoached them”

He ain’t wrong

 

[IrishSpartan]

Ok ive been noticing that Sam seems to be very shallow in his drops in the pocket. Ive one seen it mentioned once by hit and hustle but could this be the reason he isnt seing the field that well?

 

[Irish4life]

The thing is... when you put literally your entire team where we want to run the ball, you are supposed to be good enough / smart enough to "take what the defense gives you". For most teams if Louisville lines up in some asinine defense like that it's a TD. Texas, Bama, USC, Michigan, etc. it's just an easy TD or big gain for the single covered WR who has no help AND has to play them straight up on the wide side of the field.

I don't disagree with you that ND "should" be able to get a yard against any defensive alignment, but I just feel we are making it wayyyyyyyyy harder on ourselves than it needs to be through bad coaching.

The process on offense is so broken. Freeman needs to fix it, and fast.

 

[BeauBenken]

Fortuna reported that the UL coaching staff was shocked that ND swapped out their OL like they did…especially center. He also said one of the coaches told him frankly, “we outcoached them”

He ain’t wrong

I mean, I'm not sure a top 25 opponent is when you decide to move pieces around. It honestly makes such little sense to me that I am wondering if there's something we're missing.

Like, I don't think anyone has said it but I wonder if there was some illness going around the OL room. It is that time of year and I'll be honest I just got over something that kicked my ass for a week+ and it seems the entire school I work at was falling ill before we went on break.

 

[IrishLax]

Fortuna reported that the UL coaching staff was shocked that ND swapped out their OL like they did…especially center. He also said one of the coaches told him frankly, “we outcoached them”

He ain’t wrong

Yes, we got thoroughly outcoached. That was totally obvious. They had one total player on their offense -- Thrash -- who was certifiably "better" than what ND had. This wasn't a case of getting out-talented it was a case of getting out-scheme, out-prepared, and out-executed.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Starting to feel like BVG in 2016. The scheme is just absolutely not working, and the thought of bringing Parker back for another year is gutting.

I hope that Freeman is just providing lip service/cover for an assistant who seems to be a nice guy and well-liked. But if he keeps Parker around for another year, I think it'll cost him his job.

 

[Giddyup]

in the least MF should add a co-offensive coordinator that is the real coordinator or just demote Parker to TE coach.

 

[ThePiombino]

Under normal circumstances, I would say that Parker can just be demoted next season -- they could even theoretically play it off as "this was always meant to be temporary" -- but the only way that works is if someone from within gets promoted. Which brings us back to where we are now. Granted, I can't imagine anyone being any worse, but the idea is to get significantly better. So here's my question:

What is most likely to happen next season:

1. Parker stays on as OC (status quo)
2. Parker stays on, but is stripped of sole OC title
   1. Parker retains co-OC title w/either Gino or DMC
   2. Parker loses OC title and Gino/DMC become passing/running game coordinators and co-OCs
3. Parker is jettisoned into the sun
   1. Another promotion from within
   2. External hire
4. Other

I'll hang up and listen.

EDIT: I know it won't happen (at least publically), but I'd like to see Parker stripped of the OC title (and all that comes with it) completely at the BYE and Gino & DMC promoted to co-OCs with Gino calling plays (since he's the one with any play calling experience). Use it as an audition for next season.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Under normal circumstances, I would say that Parker can just be demoted next season -- they could even theoretically play it off as "this was always meant to be temporary" -- but the only way that works is if someone from within gets promoted. Which brings us back to where we are now. Granted, I can't imagine anyone being any worse, but the idea is to get significantly better. So here's my question:

What is most likely to happen next season:

1. Parker stays on as OC (status quo)
2. Parker stays on, but is stripped of sole OC title
   1. Parker retains co-OC title w/either Gino or DMC
   2. Parker loses OC title and Gino/DMC become passing/running game coordinators and co-OCs
3. Parker is jettisoned into the sun
   1. Another promotion from within
   2. External hire
4. Other

I'll hang up and listen.

EDIT: I know it won't happen (at least publically), but I'd like to see Parker stripped of the OC title (and all that comes with it) completely at the BYE and Gino & DMC promoted to co-OCs with Gino calling plays (since he's the one with any play calling experience). Use it as an audition for next season.

I think if offense explodes vs USC and we win, and finish the year strong #1

If the offense struggles, parker becomes Co OC with Gine or DMC and they see if that improves end of year. If the offense improves then it's a co OC for next year, if the offense doesn't improve, we go outside current staff.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Yes, we got thoroughly outcoached. That was totally obvious. They had one total player on their offense -- Thrash -- who was certifiably "better" than what ND had. This wasn't a case of getting out-talented it was a case of getting out-scheme, out-prepared, and out-executed.

Agreed on Thrash being better than any WR the Irish have right now. To the D’s credit, they limited him. He had the TD catch but I don’t recall a ton of explosive plays like he‘s exhibited in the games leading up to last Saturday.

Ironically, ND will face another Georgia St transfer when they line up vs SC’s defense. One of their DL started at Vandy at another position, transferred to GSU & is now part of their TFL leading front at SC

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Serious Question, and maybe discussed elsewhere:

How much of the "playcalling" and running into a stacked box is on Hartman?

Can't he look at it and say "hmmm, that's a lot of guys, maybe we shouldn't do this" ?

 

[NDohio]

Under normal circumstances, I would say that Parker can just be demoted next season -- they could even theoretically play it off as "this was always meant to be temporary" -- but the only way that works is if someone from within gets promoted. Which brings us back to where we are now. Granted, I can't imagine anyone being any worse, but the idea is to get significantly better. So here's my question:

What is most likely to happen next season:

1. Parker stays on as OC (status quo)
2. Parker stays on, but is stripped of sole OC title
   1. Parker retains co-OC title w/either Gino or DMC
   2. Parker loses OC title and Gino/DMC become passing/running game coordinators and co-OCs
3. Parker is jettisoned into the sun
   1. Another promotion from within
   2. External hire
4. Other

I'll hang up and listen.

EDIT: I know it won't happen (at least publically), but I'd like to see Parker stripped of the OC title (and all that comes with it) completely at the BYE and Gino & DMC promoted to co-OCs with Gino calling plays (since he's the one with any play calling experience). Use it as an audition for next season.

I have seen a lot of people wanting Gino to take over play calling. As much as UC fans loved Gino as a QB coach, they really didn't like him as a play caller. Just as ND fans are calling for Parker's demotion back to TE coach, UC fans were doing the same with Gino. Which might be part of the problem with this offense now. Freeman has mentioned that the offense coaches are all very involved in the game plan and if Gino isn't a good play caller, he may be contributing to the issue.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Serious Question, and maybe discussed elsewhere:

How much of the "playcalling" and running into a stacked box is on Hartman?

Can't he look at it and say "hmmm, that's a lot of guys, maybe we shouldn't do this" ?

I would say that for Hartman he was in Ruggiero's Slow Mesh offense and wanted to come to ND for the purpose of being in a more traditional scheme in terms of run/pass balance, correct? This is not to question Hartman's football IQ, but to pose the question that would he even know what is good and what isn't?

He absolutely did NOT look comfortable against Louisville regardless and it was the worst he's looked all year.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

Under normal circumstances, I would say that Parker can just be demoted next season -- they could even theoretically play it off as "this was always meant to be temporary" -- but the only way that works is if someone from within gets promoted. Which brings us back to where we are now. Granted, I can't imagine anyone being any worse, but the idea is to get significantly better. So here's my question:

What is most likely to happen next season:

1. Parker stays on as OC (status quo)
2. Parker stays on, but is stripped of sole OC title
   1. Parker retains co-OC title w/either Gino or DMC
   2. Parker loses OC title and Gino/DMC become passing/running game coordinators and co-OCs
3. Parker is jettisoned into the sun
   1. Another promotion from within
   2. External hire
4. Other

I'll hang up and listen.

EDIT: I know it won't happen (at least publically), but I'd like to see Parker stripped of the OC title (and all that comes with it) completely at the BYE and Gino & DMC promoted to co-OCs with Gino calling plays (since he's the one with any play calling experience). Use it as an audition for next season.

If they don't demote or call Gino up to be co-OC after the bye week REGARDLESS of outcome vs USC then I think he gets retained for another season. I personally do not like the co-OC thing in general, but we need a band aid on this bullet hole.

I know money talks but I just don't see someone of a high caliber really wanting to come to ND and coach with Freeman.

Do we know how much say Hartman has at the LOS - can he check out of plays? He looks at the sideline a lot So i'm inclined to say he does not have the authority. I think that needs to change, what can it hurt?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Demoting/firing Parker and promoting Gino to the OC chair doesn't make a ton of sense. Gino has as much OC experience at Parker does.

A Ludwig type of hire is what was needed nine months ago and it is what is needed NOW unless Parker somehow turns things around incredibly in the next couple of months.