Superconferences & Realignment

[NDPhilly]

ND positioning the ACC as the premier olympic sport conference even if FSU and Clemson leave for football. Makes a lot of sense. We have our own TV deal and likely wont have an issue adding another premier team to fill the gap if they leave.

 

[stlnd01]

I like Lax idea, except make it four 16 team pods broken out into two divisions. Each division champ is in the playoffs, seeds based on schedule record.

If you want to do 40 teams, then you having some type of soccer type relegation would be more fair.

Agreed. If you go much below 64 teams in the mega-conference, you probably should incorporate some sort of relegation, to give the best of the rest something to play for.

 

[NDohio]

There has been so much complaining about the travel schedules that are about to happen with the Olympic sports and how will student athletes continue to be students. Well, take a look at last year’s field hockey schedule for Stanford. You think those players are still keeping up with their studies?

Field Hockey 2022

Field Hockey 2022

gostanford.com

 

[Irish#1]

The simplest solution is a 40 team upper division of football separate from the NCAA. Four ten team conferences, and you play 3 games outside of your pod with whoever you want. The champs from each conference advance to a 4 team playoff. The conferences are strictly regional like a professional league with an emphasis on rivalries. This would add maximum emphasis to the regular season while still preserving a "fair" way of crowning a champion.

This would look something like:

WEST
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
BYU
?

SOUTH
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Mississippi
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
?

EAST
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
South Carolina
UNC
Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh
Penn State
West Virginia
?

NORTH
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Missouri
Iowa
?
?

Who says no to that besides the "have nots"?

It’s a good idea, but there are some on the lists that are have nots so where do you find the equity?

For instance one could argue Purdue or Louisville are as good or better than Arizona, Colorado, Nebraska, West Virginia, Arizona St and Pitt. I’m sure there’s other schools you could use for comparison.

 

[GowerND11]

I hate all of this…

Can’t we go back to pre-1992 conferences?

 

[Giddyup]

Meh. Who gives a fuck? Let these mofo’s lose on travel costs and integrity

 

[Irish#1]

According to ESPN, Cal & Stanford to the ACC has hit significant roadblocks. SMU to the ACC doesn’t appear to have much traction now either. The addition of the schools doesn’t appear to add much value per the article.

 

[dublinirish]

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[calvegas04]

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Until tomorrow

 

[drayer54]

Best graphic yet. They surely did this on purpose.

 

[NDPhilly]

People mad online this morning about ND throwing their dock around while not being a full ACC member.

 

[forkbeard3777]

People mad online this morning about ND throwing their dock around while not being a full ACC member.

If you're Notre Dame, who cares? If you're an ACC school, you can be mad, but they willfully entered into that deal. The SEC and Big Ten wouldn't go for it - it's all or nothing - but the ACC did. No reason for them to be mad except at themselves.

 

[forkbeard3777]

According to ESPN, Cal & Stanford to the ACC has hit significant roadblocks. SMU to the ACC doesn’t appear to have much traction now either. The addition of the schools doesn’t appear to add much value per the article.

Those are truly awful additions that add no value. You need big "big brands" (i.e., eyeballs). Cal-Berkley, Stanford, and SMU aren't that.

 

[dublinirish]

Those are truly awful additions that add no value. You need big "big brands" (i.e., eyeballs). Cal-Berkley, Stanford, and SMU aren't that.

SMU is a decent tv market in Dallas i guess. Stanford and Cal add academic prestige you could argue

 

[Irish#1]

Those are truly awful additions that add no value. You need big "big brands" (i.e., eyeballs). Cal-Berkley, Stanford, and SMU aren't that.

There aren't any schools left that are looking around that are big brands.

 

[forkbeard3777]

SMU is a decent tv market in Dallas i guess. Stanford and Cal add academic prestige you could argue

SMU isn't drawing eyeballs - not even in their home city. Fans don't even go to the games. They are drastically behind Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor in terms of eyeballs. Don't let the Highland Park-Dallas location fool you.

 

[forkbeard3777]

There aren't any schools left that are looking around that are big brands.

You're 100% correct - except for Notre Dame (which I've said this in thread(s) all along). Notre Dame is the sole remaining prize out there. You can make a case for FSU and maybe Clemson, but truthfully, neither are really overly special, and both are a stretch. Notre Dame is.

I've also said that with the impending Playoff Expansion to 16 teams that will happen in the very near distant future (likely 2026), that ND now has no reason to join in with a conference, and shouldn't.

 

[Irish#1]

SMU is a decent tv market in Dallas i guess. Stanford and Cal add academic prestige you could argue

SMU is in a decent market, but they are a relatively small school with a small following. Cal and Stanford would add academic prestige, but the TV sets they would bring wouldn't amount to a lot.

 

[stlnd01]

SMU is in a decent market, but they are a relatively small school with a small following. Cal and Stanford would add academic prestige, but the TV sets they would bring wouldn't amount to a lot.

Stanford draws better than one might think on TV (I saw a report that had them 5th in the Pac-12 in ratings over like last 5-7 years. Ahead of UCLA and Arizona State). They also have a more national alumni base than any other PAC-12 than maybe USC. And of course their other sports are often excellent.

They wouldn’t be a terrible add for the ACC. But no they’re not going to bring enough value to make that TV deal meaningfully better. Only Notre Dame would do that.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

According to ESPN, Cal & Stanford to the ACC has hit significant roadblocks. SMU to the ACC doesn’t appear to have much traction now either. The addition of the schools doesn’t appear to add much value per the article.

There is a group of ACC schools who want to blow up the conference. There aren't enough of them to accomplish that directly but there are enough of them to obstruct the rest of the conference from taking major actions.

They do not want to stabilize the ACC and will probably work against its interests, up to a point.

 

[GATTACA!]

I doesn’t really matter if these schools don’t move the needle for TV money. The conference needs to stabilize itself with extra members like the Big12 did when OUT left or risk becoming the next Pac12 the second FSU and Clemson bolt.

 

[NDdomer2]

Best graphic yet. They surely did this on purpose.

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Think BIG

 

[Irish#1]

There is a group of ACC schools who want to blow up the conference. There aren't enough of them to accomplish that directly but there are enough of them to obstruct the rest of the conference from taking major actions.

They do not want to stabilize the ACC and will probably work against its interests, up to a point.

Hadn't heard that. I'm guessing FSU is one of them? Who are the others?

 

[ulukinatme]

Best graphic yet. They surely did this on purpose.

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Something tells me the NCAA will have a...hard time allowing them to name it the "B1G D1CK" conference.

 

[GATTACA!]

Hadn't heard that. I'm guessing FSU is one of them? Who are the others?

Clemson Virginia and UNC I believe. UNC was on the fence.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Blazers46]

Best graphic yet. They surely did this on purpose.

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Cant win without a strong D…

 

[stlnd01]

That’s dumb.

You shouldn’t play your conference title game somewhere you don’t even have a team. If want to do it out west, put it in the Rose Bowl you cowards.

 

[Blazers46]

Eww!! Not a fan of moving it (even temporarily) out of BIG country… but this was probably inevitable.

 

[dublinirish]

Eww!! Not a fan of moving it (even temporarily) out of BIG country… but this was probably inevitable.

id rather go see a game in LV than frickin Indy in December