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Luckylucci

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I am in rip van winkle mode on tosh.

And I hate the fact I am.

I really thought we got the best tackle in the class that year. Possibly the biggest disappointment I can remember in recent past. I'll give him credit for at least sticking it out and not transferring out.
Right there with ya. How a guy that big yet agile has not been able to put it together was a miss for a lot of people.
 

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I am in rip van winkle mode on tosh.

And I hate the fact I am.

I really thought we got the best tackle in the class that year. Possibly the biggest disappointment I can remember in recent past. I'll give him credit for at least sticking it out and not transferring out.

He's LT2 as it currently stands and just got passed by two guys who probably go in the first round this year. No shame in that.
 

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I think he's given up more sacks at LT then the prior 10 years of left tackle combined............. in limited snaps
I was reading his bio.

He started two games in ‘21 (Purdue & Wisconsin), he played OT in two in 2020 as a freshman (USF & Syracuse) & played in all 13 games last year, on ST & backup OT.

And according to his stats, I can’t find a single in-game sack?
 

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I am in rip van winkle mode on tosh.

And I hate the fact I am.

I really thought we got the best tackle in the class that year. Possibly the biggest disappointment I can remember in recent past. I'll give him credit for at least sticking it out and not transferring out.
He got passed by Joe Alt who is a possible top 5 draft pick so it’s not that bad. He may well be good. Just not as good.
 

Pops Freshenmeyer

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He's LT2 as it currently stands and just got passed by two guys who probably go in the first round this year. No shame in that.
His main issues were communication breakdowns when LT/LG were getting shuffled around. I don’t think getting beaten straight up was his problem.
 

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He got passed by Joe Alt who is a possible top 5 draft pick so it’s not that bad. He may well be good. Just not as good.
It is pretty funny how it took multiple injuries at LT to realize that Alt was really fucking good. He'll probably go down as the best LT Notre Dame has had this century.
 

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Some highlights of position group drills


Is it just me, or does the DL group always get the least amount of coverage? I realize there was a brief sighting but it seems they are usually the least covered. Is that by design?
 

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Merriweather is going to be your deep threat this year. Thomas/Greathouse are going to see the bulk of the targets within 15 yards of the LOS in my opinion. Tyree will be a gadget player moved all over.

I do not expect Merriweather to have more than like ~35 catches this year.
Will say, just as a devil's advocate here....I remember reports that Foskey was underwhelming during fall camp in 2021. Was getting locked up by Blake Fisher at the time. Maybe the ND secondary is just that good?
 

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Kiser and Bertrand are both good college linebackers
The nonsense that they aren't any good keeps popping up. 247 just rated Bertrand as the fifth most valuable player on the team. If the fifth best player "isn't good" we must be terrible. And the coaches are idiots for sending them out year after year. There's a disconnect here.
 

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The nonsense that they aren't any good keeps popping up. 247 just rated Bertrand as the fifth most valuable player on the team. If the fifth best player "isn't good" we must be terrible. And the coaches are idiots for sending them out year after year. There's a disconnect here.
They are good but probably not top 4 calibre good. Plus we are use to having a dude like JOK or Tranquil or Smith somewhere in there. Maybe we have been spoilt.
 

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The nonsense that they aren't any good keeps popping up. 247 just rated Bertrand as the fifth most valuable player on the team. If the fifth best player "isn't good" we must be terrible. And the coaches are idiots for sending them out year after year. There's a disconnect here.
One of the dumbest ND fan/message board narratives out there haha. Just patently ignoring reality haha.
 

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I really can’t take On3 seriously.

In the spring they said Buchner outplayed Hartman.
Now they are saying Angeli outplayed Hartman.

Do they have Hartman mixed up with a walkon QB?

And who the hell out of Singer, Horka or the teenager new kid, is qualified to analyze football?
First you have Power giving indefensible rankings of Carr & KVA, now you have local unqualified idiots spewing nonsense.

What is that site doing?
 

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I was reading his bio.

He started two games in ‘21 (Purdue & Wisconsin), he played OT in two in 2020 as a freshman (USF & Syracuse) & played in all 13 games last year, on ST & backup OT.

And according to his stats, I can’t find a single in-game sack?
Could have swore he gave up 1-2 vs Purdue alone
 

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I really can’t take On3 seriously.

In the spring they said Buchner outplayed Hartman.
Now they are saying Angeli outplayed Hartman.

Do they have Hartman mixed up with a walkon QB?

And who the hell out of Singer, Horka or the teenager new kid, is qualified to analyze football?
First you have Power giving indefensible rankings of Carr & KVA, now you have local unqualified idiots spewing nonsense.

What is that site doing?
Differentiating themselves in a crowded "insider" business, no matter if they lose credibility in the process or not.
 
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