‘24 NJ DL Owen Wafle (Michigan Verbal)

NDMatt91 · May 24, 2023

TheRealLynch51 said:
Don't think it ever truly will honestly. You'll get some quasi national writer write a hit piece and everyone will move on eventually. People either love or hate ND already. Doubt this changes minds.

Agreed. It doesn't seem to hurt certain SEC schools.

zelezo vlk · May 24, 2023

Good luck to the young man.

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Reaper97 · May 24, 2023

IB have the backstory & they are pissed…

Evidently ND dropped him against his wishes.

He never waivered on his commitment and was an active recruiter for ND.

Evidently ND is looking to replace him with someone else that IB says, in their opinion, is not as good as Wafle.

Said it’s a really bad look perception-wise for ND in recruiting, especially in the New Jersey area.
Had him for a year, then decided they liked someone else better & told him he is out.

GrangerIrish24 · May 24, 2023

Reaper97 said:
Third class in a row we processed a kid. Nickel, Irvin, Wafle.
When does it start to become a bad look?

When it starts becoming a bad look for every other school.

FWIrish4 · May 24, 2023

Irishdrunk said:
Owen Wafle decommits. Not a great look having 3 stars reconsidering. If the staff has silent commit from another recruit, they might want to get that recruit to go public.

Do we, or do we not, want 3 star recruits? My heads spinning!

FWIrish4 · May 24, 2023

Reaper97 said:
IB have the backstory & they are pissed…

Evidently ND dropped him against his wishes.

He never waivered on his commitment and was an active recruiter for ND.

Evidently ND is looking to replace him with someone else that IB says, in their opinion, is not as good as Wafle.

Said it’s a really bad look perception-wise for ND in recruiting, especially in the New Jersey area.
Had him for a year, then decided they liked someone else better & told him he is out.

Why even process kids? Just oversign and let the portal work itself out because there’s going to be defections regardless.

notredomer23 · May 24, 2023

NDMatt91 said:
If this is to swap him for Sevillano then I would really hate that move.

I think more likely they go for Sevillano and Scott. They wouldn't take Wafle, Sevillano, and Scott IMO. Wafle's knock may be he's pretty close to fully developed so he might be too small for what they envision at the position. Again, I don't agree with it, but looking at the possible rationale of the staff.

Giddyup · May 24, 2023

Who offered him in the first place? Kinda sloppy recruiting

Luckylucci · May 24, 2023

The Freeman hype machine is in full force on this one. ISD reporting this is actually good news.

Weird, he was quite the commitment not too long ago.

If we're processing players, I'm not sure why we're processing a player at a position we need 2-3 of and now have zero. Seems like an unnecessary risk. We'll see what they have up their sleeve.

Giddyup · May 24, 2023

Want you one day not the next

NDMatt91 · May 24, 2023

Luckylucci said:
The Freeman hype machine is in full force on this one. ISD reporting this is actually good news.

Weird, he was quite the commitment not too long ago.

If we're processing players, I'm not sure why we're processing a player at a position we need 2-3 of and now have zero. Seems like an unnecessary risk. We'll see what they have up their sleeve.

I'm not a ISD subscriber. Are they generally sunshine pumpers?

stpeteirish · May 24, 2023

Reaper97 said:
IB have the backstory & they are pissed…

Evidently ND dropped him against his wishes.

He never waivered on his commitment and was an active recruiter for ND.

Evidently ND is looking to replace him with someone else that IB says, in their opinion, is not as good as Wafle.

Said it’s a really bad look perception-wise for ND in recruiting, especially in the New Jersey area.
Had him for a year, then decided they liked someone else better & told him he is out.

It'd be nice to know who we're replacing Wafle with before deciding if this is a good move or not.

Irishnuke · May 24, 2023

College football recruiting is a very dirty business. I don’t think I’d be as cordial as Owen if I got processed out, or whatever you want call it.

Luckylucci · May 24, 2023

NDMatt91 said:
I'm not a ISD subscriber. Are they generally sunshine pumpers?

I've been a big fan of ISD for a very long time. But, they have the Freeman kool-aid on tap every day all day and it never stops being Freeman hype day.

Lately they've just been very willing to contradict themselves a lot if it makes Freeman look better.

stpeteirish · May 24, 2023

notredomer23 said:
I think more likely they go for Sevillano and Scott. They wouldn't take Wafle, Sevillano, and Scott IMO. Wafle's knock may be he's pretty close to fully developed so he might be too small for what they envision at the position. Again, I don't agree with it, but looking at the possible rationale of the staff.

Pretty freaking dumb if you're dumping a guy like Wafle for Scott. If Freeman thinks he's got Scott wrapped up he's even more naive than I thought.

NDFAN2008 · May 24, 2023

I don't get dropping this kid, DL/DT is a huge need. Scott if I had to bet money won't end up here, Rushing is trending towards Oregon and TJ Lindsay is gonna stay home.

fightingirish26 · May 24, 2023

Is this supposed to be a gesture for Scott/Sevillano? If you don't land both of those guys you're going to expand the board and will the rest of the board be better than Wafle? Talented guys pop up at all times in the process (Hillman) but there is less time to adjust in the classroom if that is a problem (Hillman). So can you find a superior player of course but will they be a fit and committed to the university?

Sea Turtle · May 24, 2023

We are either serious or we are not.

You guys want your cake and to eat it too.

Lberry · May 24, 2023

Note that ISD rated Owen a 91 and Sean Sevillano an 89.

And they're also saying this is a good thing. So if it's that, here's your receipt.

NDFAN2008 · May 24, 2023

Lberry said:
Note that ISD rated Owen a 91 and Sean Sevillano an 89.

And they're also saying this is a good thing. So if it's that, here's your receipt.

I think Sean Sevillano is more of a inside run stopper guy, Walfe was more of a tweener

Reaper97 · May 24, 2023

Sea Turtle said:
We are either serious or we are not.

You guys want your cake and to eat it too.

Since when is not keeping your word being serious?

SouthSideChiDomer · May 24, 2023

Sea Turtle said:
We are either serious or we are not.

You guys want your cake and to eat it too.

We are not serious. If we were serious, we would be willing to play the NIL game and wouldn't put as many academic restrictions on as we do.

Reaper97 · May 24, 2023

Driskell is laying it all out there.
I’ve never seen him have this attitude towards a Marcus Freeman staff before.

Straight up said “it wasn’t mutual” and that Wafle & his parents are upset.

Said the ONLY way it’s justified is if something else comes to light down the road, but doesn’t see that as the case & was told by multiple sources that ND “just likes someone else better.”

Same staff offered, accepted his commitment, sat down with the family in their home, and then pulled it. Same staff.

arrowryan · May 24, 2023

SouthSideChiDomer said:
We are not serious. If we were serious, we would be willing to play the NIL game and wouldn't put as many academic restrictions on as we do.

Hartman and Carter wouldn’t be here if we weren’t playing the NIL game.

Jiggafini19Deux · May 24, 2023

arrowryan said:
Hartman and Carter wouldn’t be here if we weren’t playing the NIL game.

They're talking about high school talent.

NDFAN2008 · May 24, 2023

Reaper97 said:
Driskell is laying it all out there.
I’ve never seen him have this attitude towards a Marcus Freeman staff before.

Straight up said “it wasn’t mutual” and that Wafle & his parents are upset.

Said the ONLY way it’s justified is if something else comes to light down the road, but doesn’t see that as the case & was told by multiple sources that ND “just likes someone else better.”

Same staff offered, accepted his commitment, sat down with the family in their home, and then pulled it. Same staff.

They must feel very very confident they are landing 2 of Scott, Rushing and TJ Lindsay

Armyirish47 · May 24, 2023

The game is the game.

Reaper97 · May 24, 2023

NDFAN2008 said:
They must feel very very confident they are landing 2 of Scott, Rushing and TJ Lindsay

Lindsey is out.
Just this week Ryan Roberts talked to him & it seems to be a “fit” problem & ND moved on a while ago.
And Rushing & Scott have nothing to do with Wafle. Different positions & are takes no matter what anyways.

Katzenboyer · May 24, 2023

Don't like dropping kids, even if other schools do it.

FightingIrishLover7 · May 24, 2023

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