‘24 NJ DL Owen Wafle (Michigan Verbal)

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I don't have a problem with it when he's got a year until signing day to figure out a spot.

I would hope they recruited over him and told him he can come and give him the chance to make his own decision, but we'll only likely get one side of the story.

Dropping kids last second or after they've enrolled is a different story.

If recruits are going to be able flip for the highest bidder right up until signing day no one should be surprised if programs also get more cutthroat in response.
 

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Processing quality prospects is dumb shit. Especially in *May*... should just overrecruit at Lucky said.

I agree with this but...

I don't have a problem with it when he's got a year until signing day to figure out a spot.

I would hope they recruited over him and told him he can come and give him the chance to make his own decision, but we'll only likely get one side of the story.

Dropping kids last second or after they've enrolled is a different story.

If recruits are going to be able flip for the highest bidder right up until signing day no one should be surprised if programs also get more cutthroat in response.

I also agree with this.
 

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They forgot the cheese on his double whopper.
No, he talks to the families of the kids & gets their side of the story.
Wafle & his family are upset. They just were informed, against their wishes, that Owen was no longer welcomed at his dream school after being faithful for a year.
 

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No, he talks to the families of the kids & gets their side of the story.
Wafle & his family are upset. They just were informed, against their wishes, that Owen was no longer welcomed at his dream school after being faithful for a year.

I maybe mistaken and thinking of a different prospect. Didn't Wafle visit Oklahoma after he had verbally committed to Notre Dame?
 

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Michigan offered him today.
Hilarious.
I saw that. Did they actually offer today, or did he just report the offer today? I know sometimes ND offers kids and they don't post it to their social media so it's kind of unknown.
 

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I saw that. Did they actually offer today, or did he just report the offer today? I know sometimes ND offers kids and they don't post it to their social media so it's kind of unknown.
They probably offered him in the past, but he didn’t report it out of respect to ND.

But he is about to commit there it looks like, so I wonder if he had communication with them privately before?
 

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Driskell is laying it all out there.
I’ve never seen him have this attitude towards a Marcus Freeman staff before.

Straight up said “it wasn’t mutual” and that Wafle & his parents are upset.

Said the ONLY way it’s justified is if something else comes to light down the road, but doesn’t see that as the case & was told by multiple sources that ND “just likes someone else better.”

Same staff offered, accepted his commitment, sat down with the family in their home, and then pulled it. Same staff.

If true I would agree. We, as fans talk about being better than other school on to do the same thing. That want look good at all.
 

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They probably offered him in the past, but he didn’t report it out of respect to ND.

But he is about to commit there it looks like, so I wonder if he had communication with them privately before?
Yeah I don't buy this is all on ND and this not being a mutual decision with how fast the Michigan situation is moving. Something like Wafle wanted to visit Michigan, Freeman said NO and we will look else where as well if you do.
 

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Yeah I don't buy this is all on ND and this not being a mutual decision with how fast the Michigan situation is moving. Something like Wafle wanted to visit Michigan, Freeman said NO and we will look else where as well if you do.
And, while I don't mind Driscoll as much as some of you do, if this is what happened, one of Driscoll's biggest issues is he will not back down from his opinion. So he will continue to double down on this "Not being mutual" and "ND recruiting really is good."
 

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And, while I don't mind Driscoll as much as some of you do, if this is what happened, one of Driscoll's biggest issues is he will not back down from his opinion. So he will continue to double down on this "Not being mutual" and "ND recruiting really is good."
He actually is doing the opposite right now.
He says he is looking into it more because he can’t believe ND would do this unless they had a reason.
Says he will dig and try to find the answer.
 

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Driskell in full meltdown mode about this.
Is he ever not in full meltdown mode? I swear every time his name gets brought up, it's how he's losing it over mundane bullshit. A kid gets dropped in May and it's the end of the world. Starting to think Driskell is 1988 or torpedo or whatever his name is this week to try to skirt the ban.
 

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Maybe the kid got arrested who knows. I do like bold moves though. It’s fascinating about what happens next. 🍿🍿
 

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I believie in getting the best possible recruits. I believe that means if you have to make extra room, then so be it. Just do it gracefully, and make sure you have a proven "upgrade".

The timing, the targets and the reasoning make no sense here at this moment. Other than they are "giving Owen more time", but even then I still don't think that explains it enough.

I want to hear more. There's got to be more to this. Very bizarre.
 

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Michigan site reporting he visited there in April. Both Golden & Washington saw Wafle at his HS.

So either he was visiting Michigan against ND’s wishes or they already informed him to look elsewhere.
 

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what is more likely
A - Coaches determine there is one spot available for NG and viewed Sevillano as significant upgrade to Waffle so they told him to kick rocks.
B - Waffle and family were in discussions with Michigan and wanting to visit, where ND said no guaranteed spot if visit and we have Sevillano willing to commit in two weeks we will accept. Waffles determine they would like to visit scUM.
 

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what is more likely
A - Coaches determine there is one spot available for NG and viewed Sevillano as significant upgrade to Waffle so they told him to kick rocks.
B - Waffle and family were in discussions with Michigan and wanting to visit, where ND said no guaranteed spot if visit and we have Sevillano willing to commit in two weeks we will accept. Waffles determine they would like to visit scUM.
I'm leaning and hoping it's B.
 

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Yeah this is looking way more mutual then the beat is reporting. Waffle probably wanted to take a visit and we felt we were in a pretty solid spot with Sevillano so Freeman said see ya!

Just a speculation on how it looks on the surface - No source
 

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Yeah this is looking way more mutual then the beat is reporting. Waffle probably wanted to take a visit and we felt we were in a pretty solid spot with Sevillano so Freeman said see ya!

Just a speculation on how it looks on the surface - No source


Sure seems like Prister thinks it's mutual.
 
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