Politics

[Irish#1]

Cack, since you're a mod, can you merge the Trump and Biden threads into the Politics thread? Would be much nicer.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think some churches should pay taxes, but it should be no different than cutoffs on the individual level. Churches bringing in x number of dollars pay y percentage, churches bringing in below x number of dollars pay a smaller percentage or nothing. Religion is on the decline these days. I've been scouting out new churches for my family. I grew up Catholic, the Mrs was Baptist, we decided to compromise on something in the middle. Lately I've been attending a Presbyterian church where they only have one service each week and they struggle to bring in more than 30 people as it is. I really don't know how they're still going at this point. If they had to pay taxes on top of the meager sum they bring in each week it would finish them off.

I can't imagine what's turning people off.

 

[ulukinatme]

I can't imagine what's turning people off.

They don't need Joel Osteen. This country could use some Jesus these days though. Too much hate going on.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cack, since you're a mod, can you merge the Trump and Biden threads into the Politics thread? Would be much nicer.

That’s like 500,000 posts. Not sure that’s smart lol. Might break the site. Let’s just get back to posting things in the right threads. I’m very guilty of this.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

They don't need Joel Osteen. This country could use some Jesus these days though. Too much hate going on.

I think there are a lot of people in this country who if they invited Jesus into their hearts, Jesus would slap them with his sandals after finding what's in there.

He also wouldn't look like Jared Leto.

I feel like I don't have the right to claim him anymore (Jesus, not Jared Leto). My Italian jewelry kit is only 2/3. No more crucifix. Just the horn and the St. Anthony medal.

 

[Irish#1]

They don't need Joel Osteen. This country could use some Jesus these days though. Too much hate going on.

Amen!

 

[drayer54]

Prove innocence... from a person who has had an important role. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Prove innocence... from a person who has had an important role. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

This is semantics. The trials exonerate or confirm the charges. If you are not found guilty of the charges your innocence has been proven. The defense of person on trial has to prove the prosecutions evidence isn’t enough to convict.

Exposing flaws in the prosecutions case is one way to not be convicted. Another is to provide evidence that proves your innocence like say a airtight alibi.

In this instance, Trump will have the ability to prove his innocence as in provide evidence he most certainly did not do the things he is accused of or poke holes in the theory and evidence against him on hand to cast reasonable doubt.

In any event literally every defendant will have to show somehow they didn’t do what the prosecution is accusing them of.

I mean watching the LOCK HER UP crew get triggered over this is kind of funny. I have to ask if he wins the case will he be vindicated?

 

[NorthDakota]

This is semantics. The trials exonerate or confirm the charges. If you are not found guilty of the charges your innocence has been proven. The defense of person on trial has to prove the prosecutions evidence isn’t enough to convict.

Exposing flaws in the prosecutions case is one way to not be convicted. Another is to provide evidence that proves your innocence like say a airtight alibi.

It's not semantics.

 

[Bishop2b5]

30+ counts of business fraud. Yikes

I think this is finally it. You've got him this time! The walls are closing in! He's going down! THIS is the smoking gun, finally!

 

[SeekNDestroy]

They don't need Joel Osteen. This country could use some Jesus these days though. Too much hate going on.

I may not be a believer any longer, but the way Jesus is mostly portrayed in the New Testament can be a powerful source for good throughout the world.

 

[ab2cmiller]

This is semantics. The trials exonerate or confirm the charges. If you are not found guilty of the charges your innocence has been proven. The defense of person on trial has to prove the prosecutions evidence isn’t enough to convict.

Exposing flaws in the prosecutions case is one way to not be convicted. Another is to provide evidence that proves your innocence like say a airtight alibi.

In this instance, Trump will have the ability to prove his innocence as in provide evidence he most certainly did not do the things he is accused of or poke holes in the theory and evidence against him on hand to cast reasonable doubt.

In any event literally every defendant will have to show somehow they didn’t do what the prosecution is accusing them of.

I mean watching the LOCK HER UP crew get triggered over this is kind of funny. I have to ask if he wins the case will he be vindicated?

LOL.... ummmm NO. If you are found not guilty, you have not proven your innocence. That's not how things work. That's just as bad as Pelosi. It's not semantics. Everyone knows there is a HUUUUGE distinction between the two. Everybody except you and Pelosi evidently. I'll have to bookmark this one.

 

[ulukinatme]

Prove innocence... from a person who has had an important role. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

She got fact checked lol.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

LOL.... ummmm NO. If you are found not guilty, you have not proven your innocence. That's not how things work. That's just as bad as Pelosi. It's not semantics. Everyone knows there is a HUUUUGE distinction between the two. Everybody except you and Pelosi evidently. I'll have to bookmark this one.

😂 It’s literally how it works. The defendant still has lots of work to do to beat charges levied against them. Sure you are innocent until proven guilty per theory and by all recognized rights but in practice no….you have to prove at least reasonable doubt as well or you are not going to be found innocent.

If the prosecutor shows up with your fingerprint, your gps location, and ten witnesses saying they saw you commit a crime, your defense will not just sit there and do nothing. They will have to show or create doubt enough yo overcome the evidence. They have to show your gpa location was wrong. They have to show at least the preponderance of evidence against you is invalid. It is a proof test clearly. Again it’s semantics. Poorly worded but nonetheless semantics. He will stand trial and have his day in court which is what he is has a right to.

She isn’t wrong. How many people in this country have been accused of crimes that are innocent and couldn’t prove themselves innocent? Lots. How many people went to jail before DNA evidence exonerated them many years after the fact? How many people can’t afford a good enough defense to draft the reasonable doubt?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I bet this guy is a drag queen.

 

[NorthDakota]

😂 It’s literally how it works. The defendant still has lots of work to do to beat charges levied against them. Sure you are innocent until proven guilty per theory and by all recognized rights but in practice no….you have to prove at least reasonable doubt as well or you are not going to be found innocent.

If the prosecutor shows up with your fingerprint, your gps location, and ten witnesses saying they saw you commit a crime, your defense will not just sit there and do nothing. They will have to show or create doubt enough yo overcome the evidence. They have to show your gpa location was wrong. They have to show at least the preponderance of evidence against you is invalid. It is a proof test clearly. Again it’s semantics. Poorly worded but nonetheless semantics. He will stand trial and have his day in court which is what he is has a right to.

She isn’t wrong. How many people in this country have been accused of crimes that are innocent and couldn’t prove themselves innocent? Lots. How many people went to jail before DNA evidence exonerated them many years after the fact? How many people can’t afford a good enough defense to draft the reasonable doubt?

If an attorney told you this, please turn him in to your local bar association.

You aren't innocent until proven guilty in theory, you just are. But a defendant is under no obligation to prove innocence.

Regarding proof, preponderance of doubt is the standard for civil proceedings, not criminal. The standard in criminal proceedings is beyond a reasonable doubt.

Preponderance = more likely true than not.
Reasonable Doubt = there is no other reasonable explanation.

This isn't semantics. Defendants move for judgments of acquittal. Basically just says, "Judge, the prosecution failed to meet its burden and you can't even present this to a jury." Thats without the defendant even attempting to present evidence.

 

[NorthDakota]

LOL.... ummmm NO. If you are found not guilty, you have not proven your innocence. That's not how things work. That's just as bad as Pelosi. It's not semantics. Everyone knows there is a HUUUUGE distinction between the two. Everybody except you and Pelosi evidently. I'll have to bookmark this one.

It was painful to read.

 

[Irish#1]

I bet this guy is a drag queen.

Dude needs to be put away, but I bet those in those pics weren’t aware of what he was doing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Dude needs to be put away, but I bet those in those pics weren’t aware of what he was doing.

For real?

A startling number of GOP reps oppose anti-human trafficking bill

We knew the bill to combat human trafficking would pass. The only question was whether anyone would oppose it. The answer turned out to be surprising.

www.msnbc.com

Tim Nolan was a judge. Tim Nolan was a conservative activist. Tim Nolan was a human trafficker.

How did this former judge and political activist get away with coercing sex from so many women? That's what friends and neighbors want to know.

www.cincinnati.com

Right-Wing Influencer Arrested on Human Trafficking Charges After Attacks on Greta Thunberg

Supporters of climate leader Greta Thunberg cheered late Thursday into Friday after Andrew Tate, the latest right-wing influencer to attack Thunberg online, was arrested in Romania after bragging to the activist about owning dozens of emissions-heavy vehicles.

www.commondreams.org

‘Sex Trafficking’ Laws Hurt Women

Republicans are insisting on tacking anti-abortion language onto an anti-sex-trafficking bill—and it’s just their latest effort to exploit the issue to fight “sexual immorality.”

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This seems like a weird move if you love people being able to vote.

 

[Irish#1]

For real?

A startling number of GOP reps oppose anti-human trafficking bill

We knew the bill to combat human trafficking would pass. The only question was whether anyone would oppose it. The answer turned out to be surprising.

www.msnbc.com

Tim Nolan was a judge. Tim Nolan was a conservative activist. Tim Nolan was a human trafficker.

How did this former judge and political activist get away with coercing sex from so many women? That's what friends and neighbors want to know.

www.cincinnati.com

Right-Wing Influencer Arrested on Human Trafficking Charges After Attacks on Greta Thunberg

Supporters of climate leader Greta Thunberg cheered late Thursday into Friday after Andrew Tate, the latest right-wing influencer to attack Thunberg online, was arrested in Romania after bragging to the activist about owning dozens of emissions-heavy vehicles.

www.commondreams.org

‘Sex Trafficking’ Laws Hurt Women

Republicans are insisting on tacking anti-abortion language onto an anti-sex-trafficking bill—and it’s just their latest effort to exploit the issue to fight “sexual immorality.”

www.thedailybeast.com

So you think all of them knew he was trafficking and turned their heads? From the one article it sounds like it was opposed not because they are for trafficking but because it would create a loophole for
Illegal immigration.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So you think all of them knew he was trafficking and turned their heads? From the one article it sounds like it was opposed not because they are for trafficking but because it would create a loophole for
Illegal immigration.

They know the circles they travel in. Matt Gaetz was under investigation for trafficking while that vote was taking place. The investigation was dropped recently with no charges filed

It’s always projection with the GOP.

Sex trafficking is a REAL issue in this country not drag queen hate. There was no reason reason to vote against that bill and 20 GOP did.

 

[NorthDakota]

They know the circles they travel in. Matt Gaetz was under investigation for trafficking while that vote was taking place. The investigation was dropped recently with no charges filed

It’s always projection with the GOP.

Sex trafficking is a REAL issue in this country not drag queen hate. There was no reason reason to vote against that bill and 20 GOP did.

Cack has officially went full BlueAnon. Its QAnon's better educated but similarly insane cousin.

Please pray for him.

 

[NorthDakota]

This seems like a weird move if you love people being able to vote.

If cack could read, he would see the bill proposed by the guy only becomes operable when X number of polling places are unable to get supplemental ballots within an hour of requesting them.

Whether that's good or bad, I have no idea. But that bill seems to be about as pro-voting as it gets.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Oh shit haha

 

[ab2cmiller]

I'm assuming this is an April Fools joke.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm assuming this is an April Fools joke.

Oops

 

[NorthDakota]

Cack can't help but fall for these sorts of things.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'm assuming this is an April Fools joke.

Oops

Cack can't help but fall for these sorts of things.

Come on, guys! Cack saw it on Twitter. It HAS to be true! Tweet tweet!

 

[TorontoGold]

Maybe Cack should bold the "haha" in the future. The CDS is strong here.

Still waiting for the beta list xoxo

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