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Reports coming out about Grant Wahl:

"Wahl's wife, Dr. Celine Gounder, said Wednesday that an autopsy was conducted by the New York City Medical Examiner's Office.

"Grant died from the rupture of a slowly growing, undetected ascending aortic aneurysm with hemopericardium," she wrote on her husband's Substack newsletter; hemopericardium refers to blood in the sac that surrounds the heart."

"The chest pressure he experienced shortly before his death may have represented the initial symptoms. No amount of CPR or shocks would have saved him. His death was unrelated to COVID. His death was unrelated to vaccination status. There was nothing nefarious about his death."

Taken from ESPN. Scary that this stuff happens without warning.
 

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Reports coming out about Grant Wahl:

"Wahl's wife, Dr. Celine Gounder, said Wednesday that an autopsy was conducted by the New York City Medical Examiner's Office.

"Grant died from the rupture of a slowly growing, undetected ascending aortic aneurysm with hemopericardium," she wrote on her husband's Substack newsletter; hemopericardium refers to blood in the sac that surrounds the heart."

"The chest pressure he experienced shortly before his death may have represented the initial symptoms. No amount of CPR or shocks would have saved him. His death was unrelated to COVID. His death was unrelated to vaccination status. There was nothing nefarious about his death."

Taken from ESPN. Scary that this stuff happens without warning.
Undetected things are not the same as unknowable. If our healthcare industry didnt cost so much or have so many financial roadblocks, things like this could easily be identified early on in a much mor robust preventative care system rather than the reactive one we all enjoy today.
 

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Undetected things are not the same as unknowable. If our healthcare industry didnt cost so much or have so many financial roadblocks, things like this could easily be identified early on in a much mor robust preventative care system rather than the reactive one we all enjoy today.
This is quite the hot take.

If it were free to give a miraculously specific test to identify high risks in asymptomatic individuals that didn’t lead to unnecessary and risky medical interventions then we will all enjoy longer lives.

Relatedly if distributed low cost energy were available around the globe we could all fly on no emission jets.
 

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This is quite the hot take.

If it were free to give a miraculously specific test to identify high risks in asymptomatic individuals that didn’t lead to unnecessary and risky medical interventions then we will all enjoy longer lives.

Relatedly if distributed low cost energy were available around the globe we could all fly on no emission jets.
Relax cupcake preventative checkups that dont cost a ton of money and are allowed by insurance companies would drastically improve peoples lives.... talk about a hot take. no emission jets dont exist. The ability to identify fluid around your heart in a preventative check up DOES. A simple utlra sound or more through CT scan will identify aneurisms.. My personal experience having a few medical professionals in my immediate family tell me most insurance plans do not allow preventative checkups for anuerisms without specialists getting involved and prices being exorbitatnt.

If my insurance covered it or it didnt cost a fortune to get a CT scan I'd get checked for anuerisms or other heart related issues every year.
 
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Cack: the guy's new enough that maybe he hasn't gotten over himself and his testosterone reflex yet.
If we're lucky, maybe he'll say something thoughtful and collegial (at least in tone) some day.

Meanwhile, no one with a brain and heart smirks about the pursuit of a better healthcare system, nor a better energy system.
 

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Man, Giroud and Mbappe both missed easy goals. Should be 2-0 or even 3-0 right now.
 

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This will be the final I was hoping for from the start.

If Messi does this, it ultimately shuts a lot of people up forever, which I am very comfortable with.
 

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This will be the final I was hoping for from the start.

If Messi does this, it ultimately shuts a lot of people up forever, which I am very comfortable with.
I'd like Argentina to win for that reason alone. Have always liked him. Plus...France is not cool. Lame people. Lame country. Surrendered faster than Poland in WW2.

Anyone see WaPo attack Argentina for their lack of black players only to later admit that Argentina's black population is under 1%?
 

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You two dusty old farts can spare the sanctimony, when you both start with ad hominem.
Relax cupcake
Cack: the guy's new enough that maybe he hasn't gotten over himself and his testosterone reflex yet.


Now we’re even on the ad Hominem.

I’ll spare the thread because this is supposed to be soccer. I’m happy to walk you through it in excruciating detail, but suffice it to say if you have spent any anount of time thinking about this issue critically, you will know that broad based cheap, effective prevention is complete fantasy nonsense at odds with the realities of economics and biostatistics.

I say this as a person with two decades of experience in healthcare investing working at multibillion dollar funds.

The idea that this kind of effective preventive care is achievable has led to two of the biggest flops of the last 5 years (GRAIL and Theranos).

Happy to walk either Cack or OMM through why this cutesy thinking is so corrosive to actual advances in evidence based medicine, but let’s just enjoy the World Cup in here.
 

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I'd like Argentina to win for that reason alone. Have always liked him. Plus...France is not cool. Lame people. Lame country. Surrendered faster than Poland in WW2.

Anyone see WaPo attack Argentina for their lack of black players only to later admit that Argentina's black population is under 1%?
You posting about France surrendering was definitely on my bingo card. Go figure.
 

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Did the broadcast say how many players on Morocco had eligibility to play for France?

I know there is a big overlap. Players with dual French nationality seem to be all over other national teams.
 

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Did the broadcast say how many players on Morocco had eligibility to play for France?

I know there is a big overlap. Players with dual French nationality seem to be all over other national teams.
There was a lot of overlap on that team in general. I don't know how many but it seemed like every other guy they gave back story on. The guy who made the winning PK against Spain was born in Madrid and could have played for either nation. He chose Morocco.

The keeper Bono has Canadian citizenship.

The defensive mid that plays for Fiorentina that some English team is probably going to overpay for drastically has Netherlands citizenship.
 

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Did the broadcast say how many players on Morocco had eligibility to play for France?

I know there is a big overlap. Players with dual French nationality seem to be all over other national teams.

Yeah a lot of them were born in France or other European nations


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Did the broadcast say how many players on Morocco had eligibility to play for France?

I know there is a big overlap. Players with dual French nationality seem to be all over other national teams.

I think Morocco is more Spanish and Dutch than French. Algeria on the other hand would be about 90% French born
 

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Funny.

It’s still weird to me seeing most of our national team playing and interacting with all the game’s stars. Wasn’t that long ago our highest profile player was Julian Green because of Bayern…
 

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I'd like Argentina to win for that reason alone. Have always liked him. Plus...France is not cool. Lame people. Lame country. Surrendered faster than Poland in WW2.

Anyone see WaPo attack Argentina for their lack of black players only to later admit that Argentina's black population is under 1%?

Now do Germany
 

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France has a depth of talent right now that is second to none. They have world class players in their twenties that didn't even make this squad. They have two starters injured and not even available yet they're still in the final. There is a pretty stocked pipeline for them to be strong in the next Euros and following World Cup. Personnel wise, I think they had a tad bit more than Argentina.

That being said, the way Argentinians have descended on Qatar, it could feel like a home match for Argentina. I don't know how big of a factor that will be come Sunday, but it won't hurt to have the crowd.

Likeable players all the way around, Argentina's shithousing vs Netherlands not withstanding. Argentina's Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez are very fun players. Fernandez likely not going to be at Benfica very long. France's back line has some very good young talent in it. Oh, there's Messi and Mbappe, too.

Good final for neutrals. A lot to like about both squads. Hopefully it is a good match. Would rather not see it decided by pens.
 

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France has a depth of talent right now that is second to none. They have world class players in their twenties that didn't even make this squad. They have two starters injured and not even available yet they're still in the final. There is a pretty stocked pipeline for them to be strong in the next Euros and following World Cup. Personnel wise, I think they had a tad bit more than Argentina.

That being said, the way Argentinians have descended on Qatar, it could feel like a home match for Argentina. I don't know how big of a factor that will be come Sunday, but it won't hurt to have the crowd.

Likeable players all the way around, Argentina's shithousing vs Netherlands not withstanding. Argentina's Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez are very fun players. Fernandez likely not going to be at Benfica very long. France's back line has some very good young talent in it. Oh, there's Messi and Mbappe, too.

Good final for neutrals. A lot to like about both squads. Hopefully it is a good match. Would rather not see it decided by pens.

When the guy blasted the ball into the Netherlands bench after his teammate committed a bad foul... WWE villain stuff.
 
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