'20 CT QB Drew Pyne (ND->ASU->MO->BGSU Transfer)

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Right, unless he already has his degree I’m shocked. I thought there was virtually no chance that he would transfer before end of next semester. Nowhere of note is going to want him and he has no NFL future. Honestly seems like he either made an emotional decisions or has no appreciation for his actual skill level.
He’s “selling high”. USC was his best game.
But he’s getting bad information. He’s going to compete for the job damn near anywhere he goes. ND is probably his best chance to start. Even UConn found a good QB this year.
His message to the fans didn’t mention he’s graduating in December so he probably isn’t
 

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Right, unless he already has his degree I’m shocked. I thought there was virtually no chance that he would transfer before end of next semester. Nowhere of note is going to want him and he has no NFL future. Honestly seems like he either made an emotional decisions or has no appreciation for his actual skill level.
Pretty much this.

I really don’t know where he could possibly land. It’s okay to have confidence about yourself but it’s another to not recognize your own limitations. While his basic numbers seemed fine, he was not asked to do a whole lot. He can’t throw deep, and his ability to read a defense or go through his progressions is weak, at best.
 

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ESPN reported that Pyne has 3 years of eligibility left- I think he is looking at his long term to maximize his college career to get to the NFL. I don't think he can do that at Notre Dame. We've seen it. There has been talk on this board that ND needs to get that 5* QB to lead ND to the playoffs/national championship. Pyne has his chance at ND, I would've loved for him to stay and get his degree.

ND needs to get a transfer a la another Jack Coan who I thought was great in 2021 and I wish he had more years of eligibility.
Go get Hudson Card and the the cards play out at the QB position.

Too bad Angeli did not see more PT this year, I hope we see him in the bowl game. Why play Buchner in a bowl game where I think it is more risk than reward for ND/Buchner. Having those additional 15 practices will be good for Buchner.

Good luck to Drew!
 

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Everyone “thanking” Drew Pyne… for what? Performing in his assigned role at an inconsistent level and then ditching his team before the bowl game because he was told he’d have to compete for the starting job next year?
 

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Everyone “thanking” Drew Pyne… for what? Performing in his assigned role at an inconsistent level and then ditching his team before the bowl game because he was told he’d have to compete for the starting job next year?
I actually agree but don’t want to express my true feelings because I’m afraid Reeper will track me down and kill me.
 

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I’d guess Pyne saw how fast Cade McNamara landed at Iowa and figured he has to jump now or he won’t get a spot at an Iowa. So he ruins his “team guy” identity to skip the bowl game and secure his next gig.

Trouble is, Pyne’s not going to get a starting spot at an Iowa, or any decent P5 program, and the UCONN’s and Akrons where he might land will still be QB shopping in January. He could have played one more game for this team. Maybe even announce beforehand he was going to enter the portal, and had the proper sendoff he had earned this season.

Instead he leaves ND high and dry, and for what? Kind of sad.
 

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Everyone “thanking” Drew Pyne… for what? Performing in his assigned role at an inconsistent level and then ditching his team before the bowl game because he was told he’d have to compete for the starting job next year?
Agreed. And, it's not going to get any better throughout the college football realm due to the transfer portal and NIL.
 

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I’d guess Pyne saw how fast Cade McNamara landed at Iowa and figured he has to jump now or he won’t get a spot at an Iowa. So he ruins his “team guy” identity to skip the bowl game and secure his next gig.

Trouble is, Pyne’s not going to get a starting spot at an Iowa, or any decent P5 program, and the UCONN’s and Akrons where he might land will still be QB shopping in January. He could have played one more game for this team. Maybe even announce beforehand he was going to enter the portal, and had the proper sendoff he had earned this season.

Instead he leaves ND high and dry, and for what? Kind of sad.
IDK, he kind of did ND a favor here. A month’s worth of reps is better spent on guys who weren’t planning to transfer after the bowl game.
 

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With the context of his Dad now - would not be shocked at all to see this guy transfer to the Ivy League
That was my call long before he was forced into QB1... Stick around with TR and the Irish until graduation and then head to Brown like Pops.

But now that he's been a winner at high P5, he'll head to a BC-like school in need.
 

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No way. Drew sees himself as an NFL player, especially as demonstrated by this move. You and I can laugh at that all we want and yeah he's probably not making the league but all these **** guy (and he was a four star) view themselves as future NFL starters. Think about how unbelievably good all of them were in high school. You can't help it.

Also, I wonder: if it's true that the staff told him they were starting tyler over him in the bowl game and then he transferred I could see this creating locker room tensions. Twitter makes it seem like he was really loved by the guys. But as an aspiring top tier quarterback you have to be ready for constant savage competition for your spot. That's the cost of getting to be that guy. That said I think the only way this isn't kind of a soft move is if the staff definitively told him there's no way he's not starting next fall, no matter what he does going forward. That would be messed up.
But if we all stop and unpack this -- imagine the cognitive dissonance it would take to think that you're not good enough to win a QB competition at ND with this current QB room but you're good enough to play in the NFL.
 

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IDK, he kind of did ND a favor here. A month’s worth of reps is better spent on guys who weren’t planning to transfer after the bowl game.

This all day.

The news here isn't that he left, it's how. To go public w/o having a sitdown with TR was strange. He obviously doesn't want to get into coaching cuz you don't do things like that. He must be Bruin Capital's first VP of Social Media in 2025.

TB12 & Angelli get all the snaps and roll into spring ready to compete with who they bring in.
 

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Right, unless he already has his degree I’m shocked. I thought there was virtually no chance that he would transfer before end of next semester. Nowhere of note is going to want him and he has no NFL future. Honestly seems like he either made an emotional decisions or has no appreciation for his actual skill level.

I’m sure he’ll get his degree from ND or somewhere better. It’s not like ND wouldn’t readmit him to finish a few classes.
 

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It was reported that Pyne and his team whoever that is met with folks in the Gug on Thursday to discuss the QB situation. Sounds like he didn’t hear what he wanted to hear.
 

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But if we all stop and unpack this -- imagine the cognitive dissonance it would take to think that you're not good enough to win a QB competition at ND with this current QB room but you're good enough to play in the NFL.

Yep. So seems like there are two options: Drew wussed out of a quarterback competition or he was definitively told he wouldn't be starting in 2023 no matter what. If the latter I think that makes the staff look bad.
 

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Everyone “thanking” Drew Pyne… for what? Performing in his assigned role at an inconsistent level and then ditching his team before the bowl game because he was told he’d have to compete for the starting job next year?
More of a..”thank you for your service but you’re fired” kind of a thank you.
 

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Everyone “thanking” Drew Pyne… for what? Performing in his assigned role at an inconsistent level and then ditching his team before the bowl game because he was told he’d have to compete for the starting job next year?
1) Overachieved
2) Took a ton of shit despite being our best option at QB
3) Helped keep Freeman’s first season from spiraling. Where do things stand if we’re under .500 playing Angeli/Powlus all year? Questions about Freeman and staff. Potentially losing recruits. We’re pretty much the top destination for a transfer QB right now. That is not the case if our season went sideways and everyone is calling for Rees’ head and wondering if Freeman is in over his head.
 

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Theres a giant gap between Pyne’s stats and his actually performance. His passer rating will end the season in the low 20s nationally, above a bunch of big names that will be late round draft picks. Have to think Pyne and Pyne’s family sees that and thinks he played awesome for a first year starter.
 

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Does anyone really know the backstory on him deciding to transfer? A lot of assumptions being made from what I read. When I first saw Pyne was transferring my initial thoughts was that he was told Angeli would get the nod in the bowl game to see what he could do. Then allow everyone to compete for the job past that. Assumption? Yes. Plausible? Absolutely.
 

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Theres a giant gap between Pyne’s stats and his actually performance. His passer rating will end the season in the low 20s nationally, above a bunch of big names that will be late round draft picks. Have to think Pyne and Pyne’s family sees that and thinks he played awesome for a first year starter.

Exactly,

Season stats are liars. They tell people what your did. They don't say what you did against who.

And more importantly:

They don't say what you were unable to do because it's not part of your skill set.
 

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Does anyone really know the backstory on him deciding to transfer? A lot of assumptions being made from what I read. When I first saw Pyne was transferring my initial thoughts was that he was told Angeli would get the nod in the bowl game to see what he could do. Then allow everyone to compete for the job past that. Assumption? Yes. Plausible? Absolutely.
I don’t think the staff would run Angeli out there over Pyne. I think they would be willing to run (a presumably healthy) Buchner out there.
 

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For real, how can any objective human being tell Drew that he has an NFL future? It’s absurd. He was handed the keys to a Ferrari (great OL, elite TEs, great backs, high upside WRs) and was mediocre at best. Feel bad for him. Total self delusion and bad guidance.
 

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I don’t think the staff would run Angeli out there over Pyne. I think they would be willing to run (a presumably healthy) Buchner out there.
The timing of the announcement that Buchner will play in the bowl and Drew’s transfer announcement was interesting. Until I hear otherwise I’m assuming the staff told him they are taking a transfer and there will be an open competition. Then he finds out he’s splitting first team reps with Buchner and that was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
 

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Does anyone really know the backstory on him deciding to transfer? A lot of assumptions being made from what I read. When I first saw Pyne was transferring my initial thoughts was that he was told Angeli would get the nod in the bowl game to see what he could do. Then allow everyone to compete for the job past that. Assumption? Yes. Plausible? Absolutely.
I’m sure the story will come out eventually.

With ND being heavily linked to transfer QBs, Buchner rumored to be well enough to play in the bowl, ND needing to get Angeli reps, Minchey and Carr committed in back to back classes, the writing is on the wall.

That said, the assumption is he’s making a smart business decision while it could also be a knee jerk reaction to being told Buchner and/or Angeli Will get playing time.
 

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It's kind of funny that some of the people that were hardest on Drew and wanted him out are now the same people that are pissed he's leaving before the bowl game.
 
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