Nov 12 | Navy

[stpeteirish]

Didn't mean to say that Navy was some stalwart. But the book on beating Navy has been to try and get up by two scores early to make them take more chances. Cincinnati is not the same as last year, but they had a very uncomfortable game two weeks ago against Navy. This game should always be a blowout, but ends up being closer more than it should.

Maybe it seems like two weeks but the Navy/Cincy game was two days ago. It was uncomfortable; they couldn't run much time off the clock in the second half with the lead.

Cincy did what most teams do vs Navy, throw the ball on every down. Navy can't cover anyone man to man. Probably not a good idea for us. But they are in the top ten nationally in run defense so it could be interesting.

 

[IrishSpartan]

I hate playing Navy, just isn’t worth it. I know there’s all this tradition and the university owes Navy big but I swear someone always gets injured from chop blocks.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Maybe it seems like two weeks but the Navy/Cincy game was two days ago. It was uncomfortable; they couldn't run much time off the clock in the second half with the lead.

Cincy did what most teams do vs Navy, throw the ball on every down. Navy can't cover anyone man to man. Probably not a good idea for us. But they are in the top ten nationally in run defense so it could be interesting.

I wouldn't put much stock in unadjusted metrics given Navy's schedule to date. Both FEI and SP+ rate their defense as perfectly average. We've dominated much better defenses in the trenches already.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I hate playing Navy, just isn’t worth it. I know there’s all this tradition and the university owes Navy big but I swear someone always gets injured from chop blocks.

I believe the rules were changed so the chop blocks that were legal in the recent past are no longer legal.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I believe the rules were changed so the chop blocks that were legal in the recent past are no longer legal.

This is news to me, can anyone confirm for sure? This makes me feel better; I hate seeing us lose studs up front playing these guys.

The only thing I like about this match up is the mutual respect and pageantry after the game amongst the players and coaches. Otherwise, it's stressful knowing that if we blow them out, no one cares; if we win close it looks bad and if we lose all hell has broken lose.

 

[DONTH8]

This is news to me, can anyone confirm for sure? This makes me feel better; I hate seeing us lose studs up front playing these guys.

The only thing I like about this match up is the mutual respect and pageantry after the game amongst the players and coaches. Otherwise, it's stressful knowing that if we blow them out, no one cares; if we win close it looks bad and if we lose all hell has broken lose.

Chop blocks are allowed by the interior lineman at the line of scrimmage/within the tackle box. They are no longer allowed at the second level/outside the tacklebox.

You used to have to practice avoiding chop blocks with LBs and DBs. Not so much anymore.

 

[stpeteirish]

Chop blocks are allowed by the interior lineman at the line of scrimmage/within the tackle box. They are no longer allowed at the second level/outside the tacklebox.

You used to have to practice avoiding chop blocks with LBs and DBs. Not so much anymore.

You’re confusing chop blocks with cut blocks. Chop blocks are when one guy blocks a defender low while another engages him high. Chop blocks are illegal, have been for years.
Cut blocks are one guy blocking low. Legal within the tackle box. Now illegal outside which has really hurt Navy’s game.

Chop blocks are allowed by the interior lineman at the line of scrimmage/within the tackle box. They are no longer allowed at the second level/outside the tacklebox.

You used to have to practice avoiding chop blocks with LBs and DBs. Not so much anymore.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

The way these two teams play they may as well just use a running clock. Game is going to be over in the blink of an eye.
We will be fine if we stay on schedule and avoid stuffs or negative plays. Its funny/not funny but in a lot of ways the style if different but we are similar to navy on offense right now. We need to stay onschedule and lack the ability to compensate for negative plays or penalties on offense moreso than a typical P5 offense.

 

[tko]

Styles 5 TD’s

 

[NDisme]

I’ll never forget this one

 

[MacIrish75]

I’ll never forget this one

And that was the most emotion Pat Haden ever showed in the booth, outside of openly rooting for USC.

Imagine a Pat Haden/Jason Garrett duo…

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Styles 5 drops

FIFY

All kidding aside, I really hope he has himself a solid game before the season ends and boosts that confidence. Idk what happened, I thought he was poised to be a breakout stud this year.

 

[notredomer23]

I've been overly optimistic all season and this game has me feeling pessimistic to the point I will be happy as long as they come out with a win. Golden has struggled against the option and it's a big let down spot. On paper, ND should rush for 500 yards... but that was the case with Stanford and Marshall too. Hope I am wrong and it's a stress free snoozer by the second half.

 

[thekid33]

This game always worries me - every year. Now that the high from Saturday has slightly wore off, I'm back to being concerned. I have PTSD from being at the game at Giants stadium early in BK's tenure.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Normally I would agree with you guys but ND already had two MAJOR let downs this season, so I think Freeman and Co. will have the troops ready. We've also been very good away from ND Stadium.

If we were 8-1 I think I'd agree with you but the sting of Marshall and Stanford is fresh enough that the boys won't take anyone lightly. Plus Navy is down their starting QB, and ND's formula has been established offensively. We're coming straight at you, try and stop us. I think the boys up front keep up the incredible work and we roll.

 

[NDMatt91]

This game always worries me - every year. Now that the high from Saturday has slightly wore off, I'm back to being concerned. I have PTSD from being at the game at Giants stadium early in BK's tenure.

You're not alone. I'm also scared of potential injuries to our front 7.

 

[Free Manera]

I've been overly optimistic all season and this game has me feeling pessimistic to the point I will be happy as long as they come out with a win. Golden has struggled against the option and it's a big let down spot. On paper, ND should rush for 500 yards... but that was the case with Stanford and Marshall too. Hope I am wrong and it's a stress free snoozer by the second half.

Navy's run defense is actually good, statistically. They only give up 88 yards per game. Only 5 rushing TDs have been scored against them this year.

However, their pass defense SUCKS. It is ranked 114 and they give up 275 yards per game through the air. ND will probably have to throw.

Navy is also down their starting QB and really can't do anything on offense. ND's D line will get penetration all day which is the triple option equalizer.

The point is, HAMMER THE UNDER!

 

[arrowryan]

Navy's run defense is actually good, statistically. They only give up 88 yards per game. Only 5 rushing TDs have been scored against them this year.

However, their pass defense SUCKS. It is ranked 114 and they give up 275 yards per game through the air. ND will probably have to throw.

Navy is also down their starting QB and really can't do anything on offense. ND's D line will get penetration all day which is the triple option equalizer.

The point is, HAMMER THE UNDER!

Notre Dame ran through Clemson’s ass like shit through a tin horn.

They’ll HAVE to throw? I doubt it.

 

[notredomer23]

Navy's run defense is actually good, statistically. They only give up 88 yards per game. Only 5 rushing TDs have been scored against them this year.

However, their pass defense SUCKS. It is ranked 114 and they give up 275 yards per game through the air. ND will probably have to throw.

Navy is also down their starting QB and really can't do anything on offense. ND's D line will get penetration all day which is the triple option equalizer.

The point is, HAMMER THE UNDER!

This surprises me about the run defense given their size limitations. Looks like Houston was able to do whatever they wanted on the ground against them, but they've been stout besides that. If Houston can, ND absolutely should be able to.

 

[Free Manera]

I mean I get it. But do you think on a sleepy noon start against Navy the run game will look like it did last week?

This is the textbook hangover game. I think ND wins easy but I do think Pyne throws for like 150+ to get there.

 

[irishff1014]

This game doesn't worry me one bit. This team is pumped up. Between the knowledge of Golden and Freeman they will have a good game plan to control navy.

 

[tko]

I miss Coach Elliott dialing up a gem. God rest his soul.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Navy's run defense is actually good, statistically. They only give up 88 yards per game. Only 5 rushing TDs have been scored against them this year.

However, their pass defense SUCKS. It is ranked 114 and they give up 275 yards per game through the air. ND will probably have to throw.

Navy is also down their starting QB and really can't do anything on offense. ND's D line will get penetration all day which is the triple option equalizer.

The point is, HAMMER THE UNDER!

I made a similar post last week describing Clemson's defense and said that ND will have to throw the ball to beat Clemson. @notredomer23 said he strongly disagreed and he couldn't have been more right.

Point being: Navy hasn't really played anyone of note this year, and if we can run on Clemson we should be able to run on Navy.

Don't get away from what you do well. Pave the way to victory.

 

[irish4ever]

Navy's run defense is actually good, statistically. They only give up 88 yards per game. Only 5 rushing TDs have been scored against them this year.

However, their pass defense SUCKS. It is ranked 114 and they give up 275 yards per game through the air. ND will probably have to throw.

Navy is also down their starting QB and really can't do anything on offense. ND's D line will get penetration all day which is the triple option equalizer.

The point is, HAMMER THE UNDER!

So did Clemson, until the Irish OL and RB's lit up their ass!!!

 

[Free Manera]

Haha guys I get it. It would be awesome if the O line did that again. I hope they do. But it’s Navy at noon coming off the best win and most electric atmosphere ND has had in like 30 years.


Weird shit could happen. Like I said ND will win easily. I just think this game will look more like UNC than Clemson. And Navy wont be able to score. So again I must ask you to take the under lol.

 

[thekid33]

if we can run on Clemson we should be able to run on Navy.

Don't get away from what you do well. Pave the way to victory.

Amen.

RTDB and force them to stop that and make Pyne beat them. That should be the recipe in every game moving forward.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I would really just appreciate a 3 or 4 score lead by halftime that way I sip my drink and relax rather than chug it and end up shit faced by the end. Not sure I can handle that with a noon game!!

 

[stpeteirish]

Navy stops the run with their LBs, their DL just tries to keep blockers off them. The four LBs will all attack the LOS and make plays. DBs play nothing but zone they can't cover anyone. Yeah, we should RTDB but there's no way this defense can stop Mayer. RTDB and hit Mayer, even Pyne can pass the ball to Mayer.

 

[IRISHMAN]

Navy stops the run with their LBs, their DL just tries to keep blockers off them. The four LBs will all attack the LOS and make plays. DBs play nothing but zone they can't cover anyone. Yeah, we should RTDB but there's no way this defense can stop Mayer. RTDB and hit Mayer, even Pyne can pass the ball to Mayer.

sounds like this navy team could be burned by the play action pass and even some bootlegs.

 

[stpeteirish]

Hurricane Nicole tracker has the damn thing in Maryland on Saturday. Will not be a hurricane by then but still...ugh.