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[TorontoGold]

Ok, so you are on board with the idea it doesn't matter what we call people here illegally. A spade is a spade.

But you will put up a fight on the transsexual/transgender hill? The trans thing has impeded on people. Nearly or entirely on women. The Lia Thomas thing has helped in the sporting realm. It will continue to do so on a bipartisan basis.

Gender isn't some big social construct. Until the last 5-10 years it was a less "icky" word for people to say than sex. Nothing more, nothing less. If sociologists wanna claim it hasn't (rightfully) been viewed in vernacular as sex, by all means... happy to let them keep digging a hole and dying on a hill in front of the people who control their funding.

I mean transsexual literally refers to sex, transgender refers to gender. So taking them at their literal meanings they are not the same.

I'm just speaking about societal impacts, when it comes to sports I'll leave that to scientists to decide rather than common folk.

The government has a goal of allocating 5% of all funds to woman owned small businesses (WOSBs). They rarely achieve it, so they are desperate to find WOSBs to send money to.

What if I told you that I got rich by claiming to be a woman so I could categorize my business as a WOSB and siphon the set aside funds? And what if I told you that I just put a new license plate on my $145k Audi RS6 Avant that says "WOSB LOL"?

What if I promised you that I was super serious about identifying as a woman, profiteering aside, and that by questioning me you were objectively immoral?



Sure I did. You just refused the answer. Don't confound the two.



Funny, I didn't see you post the job titles of the Twitter employees who wrote the paper claiming that the algorithms favored conservatives posts, but you treat the paper like absolute truth. Did you bother to look at the authors' titles before you posted the paper? What if you discovered that the lead author was .... a client partner at Twitter?!?



Let's revisit what I said:


Did I say I was talking about you, or are you failing to infer yet again?

1) Federal Register :: Request Access They need to be US citizens, which means you'll need to provide government identification that shows you are legally a woman. So if you're willing to go through with changing all your government identification to showing as a woman, go nuts. Most people won't actually go through all that trouble. There are also likely contingencies on funds received that have stipulations that you need to maintain a certain eligibility ie. you can't make your daughter the owner of the company for one year. Of course if you're going to go through with any sort of scam you're going to open yourself up to IRS exposure, which if you had any foresight this would have stopped you.

2) LOL many of the authors have way greater credentials than a client partner. Literally the first three are essentially Tom Brady to Drew Pyne levels of capability.
Ira Ktena - Senior Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter
Ferenc Huszár - Senior Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter
Conor O’Brien - Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter

Now that you have their credentials, would you trust the client partner or the machine learning researchers? Please let us all know which one you pick. On one hand you can trust a team of machine learning researchers, or you can take the word of a client partner. This should be good.

@Cackalacky2.0 and @TorontoGold - who do you side with? ACLU or DHS?

You serious? Easily against the DHS with respect to surveillance of it's citizens. I will say it's pretty ironic there's all this uproar now that white supremacy is the focus.

 

[sixstar]

1) Federal Register :: Request Access They need to be US citizens, which means you'll need to provide government identification that shows you are legally a woman. So if you're willing to go through with changing all your government identification to showing as a woman, go nuts. Most people won't actually go through all that trouble. There are also likely contingencies on funds received that have stipulations that you need to maintain a certain eligibility ie. you can't make your daughter the owner of the company for one year. Of course if you're going to go through with any sort of scam you're going to open yourself up to IRS exposure, which if you had any foresight this would have stopped you.

I'm asking a question of morality. So you are okay if I went through this trouble, became a millionaire, and got off scot free because I checked all the process boxes, yes? As long as the government says I'm good then I am morally just in taking advantage of this opportunity, yes? I'm looking for a definitive yes/no here.

2) LOL many of the authors have way greater credentials than a client partner. Literally the first three are essentially Tom Brady to Drew Pyne levels of capability.
Ira Ktena - Senior Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter
Ferenc Huszár - Senior Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter
Conor O’Brien - Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter

Now that you have their credentials, would you trust the client partner or the machine learning researchers? Please let us all know which one you pick. On one hand you can trust a team of machine learning researchers, or you can take the word of a client partner. This should be good.

Exactly. I already knew what their titles were - I looked before I referenced it. Point is that you didn't look when you posted the paper. After I mentioned this, you went back to check.

When you posted that paper, you found a resource that supported your agenda and pushed it hard. You immediately rejected a counter-point because of a convenient criterion that you created on the spot (ie - inter-company credentialism, whereby one class of employees override another). Then, I pointed out that you never specified that criterion in the past. I'm glad you went back and looked, but it did make me lol that you thought you checkmated me. I wanted you to find this. I wanted you to check yourself.

Again, whoosh.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm asking a question of morality. So you are okay if I went through this trouble, became a millionaire, and got off scot free because I checked all the process boxes, yes? As long as the government says I'm good then I am morally just in taking advantage of this opportunity, yes? I'm looking for a definitive yes/no here.



Exactly. I already knew what their titles were - I looked before I referenced it. Point is that you didn't look when you posted the paper. After I mentioned this, you went back to check.

When you posted that paper, you found a resource that supported your agenda and pushed it hard. You immediately rejected a counter-point because of a convenient criterion that you created on the spot (ie - inter-company credentialism, whereby one class of employees override another). Then, I pointed out that you never specified that criterion in the past. I'm glad you went back and looked, but it did make me lol that you thought you checkmated me.

Again, whoosh.

If there are no financial strings attached? Sure I don't care you've went through an incredible amount of trouble to change your gov ids to being a woman. Of course we exist in the real world and if you've ever applied for any time of government funding you know there is way more strings attached than just "oh they say they're a woman, ok here's a $1M!".

I found the most trustworthy source I could find, one that states the methodologies and provides sourcing for their methods on how they came to their conclusion. My criticisms for your video was that it was 1) Provided by Project Veritas (which is a meme in itself) 2) It's a person running their mouth 3) It's a low level person making broad claims without support 4) It's Project Veritas

You were absolutely checkmated, you are essentially the kid who losses in a video game who loses and claims "oh I wasn't trying, I let you win". There is nothing in that video that provides any sort of credible support. One class of employee absolutely overrides another, would you trust Al Golden or a GA with explaining the game plan going into Clemson?

My god I can't believe I've spent this long giving any sort of critical thought towards a project veritas video. Man I do respect the commitment to the Dollar General Charlie Kirk/Ben Shapiro bit, top marks.

 

[ulukinatme]

@Cackalacky2.0 and @TorontoGold - who do you side with? ACLU or DHS?

How very Big Brother of them. Talking about threats to democracy...imagine if one party controls the "truth." In the last few weeks Biden has claimed he brought down gas prices after it was $5/gallon when he took over. They've said we're not in a recession, never were. You've got some shootings blamed initially on white supremacy when it's later found to be mixed/POC or other factors involved. Also, the GOP wants to end Social Security and other benefits according to liberals. Those are just the recent ones off the top of my head. I'm not even going to touch the Pelosi story because they keep changing the narrative on that one. Wild stuff.

 

[sixstar]

If there are no financial strings attached? Sure I don't care you've went through an incredible amount of trouble to change your gov ids to being a woman. Of course we exist in the real world and if you've ever applied for any time of government funding you know there is way more strings attached than just "oh they say they're a woman, ok here's a $1M!".

I don't know. I wonder how Elizabeth Warren claimed to be Native American all these years without recourse.
And, I have spent an extensive amount of time in government contracting. Extensive. I've consulted at the executive level for WOSBs and helped to secure several contracts for them. WOSB certification is actually quite easy, but I'll let you spew. And if you think that is easy - wait till you learn about HUBZone.

I found the most trustworthy source I could find, one that states the methodologies and provides sourcing for their methods on how they came to their conclusion. My criticisms for your video was that it was 1) Provided by Project Veritas (which is a meme in itself) 2) It's a person running their mouth 3) It's a low level person making broad claims without support 4) It's Project Veritas

Project Veritas was the vehicle. They didn't make any claim - that was done by the Twitter employee. His words, not Veritas'. Of your four points, I will accept #3; that is a valid critique, but he's still an employee, and he still said it, and if it were a low-level Trump staffer talking about his boss squelching opposing voices I wonder if you might have a different reaction. Certainly not, right? Hold everyone accountable as a representative of their organization, yes or no?

Secondly, do tell why Project Veritas is an unreliable news source compared to CNN. Ad hominem is a flimsy crutch in a merit-based debate.

You were absolutely checkmated, you are essentially the kid who losses in a video game who loses and claims "oh I wasn't trying, I let you win".

Why did I challenge you with the question if I didn't want you to find it? Do you think I honestly believed that a Client Partner was the primary author of a technical paper? Do you truly think I would've made that mistake? C'mon man.

Your response is exactly what I hoped for. Exactly. You went back to the paper in a moment of lucid worry to see if you might have accidentally posted a link that would make you look like a hypocrite, and then you nervously navigated to LinkedIn to search the authors' names. Then when you saw that they were all developers, you giddily typed out their titles to prove me wrong and to justify your original post. You were so sure you had me trapped. You hit the Post Reply button with authority and pride; You thought, "Ha, he's wrong and I want the whole IE forum to see that I win!"

But you failed to realize that I already knew all of this. That the first thing that I do when I read a technical paper is to find out who the authors are and what their biases might be.

The process was the point, not the destination. Again, my goal is not to change your mind - I could never do that because you are too entrenched in your ideals. My goal is to challenge your logic, and that was successful, even if you can't see it.

One class of employee absolutely overrides another, would you trust Al Golden or a GA with explaining the game plan going into Clemson?

My software devs - even at the highest level - haven't the slightest clue how I monetize the software that they code. But you know who does? My business development managers; that's their job. If we tell the devs to change algorithm inputs, we create a high priority ticket, and the devs do it; they don't have any context for the change catalyst. You don't work in software, yet you tell me how a SAAS organization is run; it's a bold move, Cotton.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Oh you mean these guys? Lol. I was already following them. Anyone else?
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Speaking of Pelosi I read the actual FBI report on the attack that was released the other day. Haven’t seen that in anything on FauxNews or RCP or any other right leaning site YET…. Maybe but I haven’t seen it.

Congrats. I don't care who or what you follow on twitter. The point (again) is that it's really inaccurate to take your twitter feed and describe it as representative of the entire country. We're days into this and you still haven't grasped this, or you're deflecting and changing topic to save face.

 

[TorontoGold]

I don't know. I wonder how Elizabeth Warren claimed to be Native American all these years without recourse.
And, I have spent an extensive amount of time in government contracting. Extensive. I've consulted at the executive level for WOSBs and helped to secure several contracts for them. WOSB certification is actually quite easy, but I'll let you spew. And if you think that is easy - wait till you learn about HUBZone.



Project Veritas was the vehicle. They didn't make any claim - that was done by the Twitter employee. His words, not Veritas'. Of your four points, I will accept #3; that is a valid critique, but he's still an employee, and he still said it, and if it were a low-level Trump staffer talking about his boss squelching opposing voices I wonder if you might have a different reaction. Certainly not, right? Hold everyone accountable as a representative of their organization, yes or no?

Secondly, do tell why Project Veritas is an unreliable news source compared to CNN. Ad hominem is a flimsy crutch in a merit-based debate.



Why did I challenge you with the question if I didn't want you to find it? Do you think I honestly believed that a Client Partner was the primary author of a technical paper? Do you truly think I would've made that mistake? C'mon man.

Your response is exactly what I hoped for. Exactly. You went back to the paper in a moment of lucid worry to see if you might have accidentally posted a link that would make you look like a hypocrite, and then you nervously navigated to LinkedIn to search the authors' names. Then when you saw that they were all developers, you giddily typed out their titles to prove me wrong and to justify your original post. You were so sure you had me trapped. You hit the Post Reply button with authority and pride; You thought, "Ha, he's wrong and I want the whole IE forum to see that I win!"

But you failed to realize that I already knew all of this. That the first thing that I do when I read a technical paper is to find out who the authors are and what their biases might be.

The process was the point, not the destination. Again, my goal is not to change your mind - I could never do that because you are too entrenched in your ideals. My goal is to challenge your logic, and that was successful, even if you can't see it.



My software devs - even at the highest level - haven't the slightest clue how I monetize the software that they code. But you know who does? My business development managers; that's their job. If we tell the devs to change algorithm inputs, we create a high priority ticket, and the devs do it; they don't have any context for the change catalyst. You don't work in software, yet you tell me how a SAAS organization is run; it's a bold move, Cotton.

Project Veritas literal clownery run by a sad sad little man.

A conservative group tried to plant a fake Roy Moore allegation in the Washington Post. It failed.

A woman said Moore got her pregnant at 15. Her story unraveled under scrutiny.

www.vox.com

ACORN 'gotcha' man arrested in attempt to tamper with Mary Landrieu's office phones

He and two others released from St. Bernard Parish Prison on Tuesday afternoon; one man released earlier

web.archive.org

Colorado Dems: We caught James O'Keefe and his friends trying to bait us into condoning voter fraud

The conservative provocateur allegedly posed as a mustachioed "civics professor."

www.motherjones.com

Ah, so it was actually a 300IQ move to entrap me into believing a report put out with it's methodology listed clearly vs trusting a Project Veritas video instead? Your grand move was to actually show that I trust people who put all their data and reasoning out in the clear vs a video from a meme level website? Ah hah! He doesn't believe the often wrong shock jock website, look at these terrible biases lolololol ok buddy.

My logic is to trust people who are upfront and provide the evidence behind their conclusions in a transparent way. I am going to be naturally more skeptical of something that comes from an unreliable source with a terrible history.

 

[drayer54]

Isn’t Project Veritas just undercover footage of Dems doing shady shit?

A clown show if you deny Dems do shady stuff.

 

[sixstar]

Ah, so it was actually a 300IQ move to entrap me into believing a report put out with it's methodology listed clearly vs trusting a Project Veritas video instead? Your grand move was to actually show that I trust people who put all their data and reasoning out in the clear vs a video from a meme level website? Ah hah! He doesn't believe the often wrong shock jock website, look at these terrible biases lolololol ok buddy.

Veritas didn't say anything; the words were spoken by a Twitter employee.
Did I vouch for Veritas? Nope.
Is everything Veritas puts out real? Nope.
Is everything Veritas puts out fake? Nope.
Did I post any claim made by Veritas? Nope.
Did I quote anything James O'Keefe said? Nope.
Did I quote the Twitter employee word for word? Yup.
Are the Twitter employee's own words invalid because O'Keefe reported them? Nope.
Is everything CNN puts out true? Nope.
Does that mean we discredit everything they do? Nope.
Do investigative reporters go under cover and tamper? Yup.

An inability to think with nuance is an inability to think. The world is colorful, stop trying to make it black and white.

Multiple things can be true at the same time. Veritas can have a shady history, CNN can post biased news, and both can still report truths. But to ignore something that came straight from a Twitter employee just because Veritas reported it? Sophomoric reasoning.

And you need to disassociate Veritas from the Research Paper exercise. You are conflating the two. And yes, while you don't see it, you participated as I hoped you would. My intent of that challenge wasn't to discredit the paper or claim some superiority in Veritas reporting. My intent was to help you realize your own bias and hypocrisy. You know you did exactly what I said you did, now it's up to you if you want to admit it to yourself and grow. I don't care if you don't admit it; you do you. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

 

[Irish#1]

Dems don’t do shady shit. Just the Repubs.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

How very Big Brother of them. Talking about threats to democracy...imagine if one party controls the "truth." In the last few weeks Biden has claimed he brought down gas prices after it was $5/gallon when he took over. They've said we're not in a recession, never were. You've got some shootings blamed initially on white supremacy when it's later found to be mixed/POC or other factors involved. Also, the GOP wants to end Social Security and other benefits according to liberals. Those are just the recent ones off the top of my head. I'm not even going to touch the Pelosi story because they keep changing the narrative on that one. Wild stuff.

Don’t forget that Republicans are going to ruin democracy………

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

That's an assumption on your part. If he plans on making the election process more secure, and in the wake the GOP win all the future elections, that seems to suggest crooked election processes were influencing results in the past. Such changes would help enforce democracy, not be a threat to it.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

 

[drayer54]

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

He needs to make sure that all election disputes are handled in the western district of Oklahoma. That would be fair.

 

[NorthDakota]

I mean transsexual literally refers to sex, transgender refers to gender. So taking them at their literal meanings they are not the same.

I'm just speaking about societal impacts, when it comes to sports I'll leave that to scientists to decide rather than common folk.



1) Federal Register :: Request Access They need to be US citizens, which means you'll need to provide government identification that shows you are legally a woman. So if you're willing to go through with changing all your government identification to showing as a woman, go nuts. Most people won't actually go through all that trouble. There are also likely contingencies on funds received that have stipulations that you need to maintain a certain eligibility ie. you can't make your daughter the owner of the company for one year. Of course if you're going to go through with any sort of scam you're going to open yourself up to IRS exposure, which if you had any foresight this would have stopped you.

2) LOL many of the authors have way greater credentials than a client partner. Literally the first three are essentially Tom Brady to Drew Pyne levels of capability.
Ira Ktena - Senior Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter
Ferenc Huszár - Senior Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter
Conor O’Brien - Machine Learning Researcher at Twitter

Now that you have their credentials, would you trust the client partner or the machine learning researchers? Please let us all know which one you pick. On one hand you can trust a team of machine learning researchers, or you can take the word of a client partner. This should be good.



You serious? Easily against the DHS with respect to surveillance of it's citizens. I will say it's pretty ironic there's all this uproar now that white supremacy is the focus.

Can you tell me the difference between a transsexual from 2002 and a transgender person today? Where were the transgender folks back then? Ohhhhh.... it turns out the label changed lmaoooo

Since we know you can't change your sex, how can they be referring "literally" to sex? You don't go to the hospital and become a man or woman. This has never been the case. No modern science I'm aware of can change that.

 

[Wild Bill]

I mean transsexual literally refers to sex, transgender refers to gender. So taking them at their literal meanings they are not the same.

I'm just speaking about societal impacts, when it comes to sports I'll leave that to scientists to decide rather than common folk.

Are you transitioning?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Don’t forget that Republicans are going to ruin democracy………

Heck, that's not even the biggest problem. According to Stacey Abrams, the sheriffs in Georgia just want to take all black people off the streets. You know, to put them in chains and take them back to slave days and all! Oh, and people will die!

It's not even surprising or problematic that Dem politicians spout this sort of nonsense with a straight face. They're politicians. It's their job to lie to get elected. The problem is that you get millions of people who believe it's all true and vote accordingly.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, but the nutjob who attacked Paul Pelosi was an illegal immigrant (overstayed his visa) and was living in some hippie commune. Doesn't exactly fit the MAGA roster stereotype, but I also have major questions as to how he got in that house.

 

[drayer54]

Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, but the nutjob who attacked Paul Pelosi was an illegal immigrant (overstayed his visa) and was living in some hippie commune. Doesn't exactly fit the MAGA roster stereotype, but I also have major questions as to how he got in that house.

We need a full investigation into the right wing violence. The house has cameras all over. We need the home security footage, the body cam footage, we need to know who answered the door, how Pelosi greeted the officers, etc. Right wing violence must be given the scale of the Jan 6 committee and we must understand how Castro supporting hippie nudist illegal immigrants in Berkeley are becoming radicalized by the Republicans. Full investigation, please.

 

[TorontoGold]

Are you transitioning?

Weren't you the poster that told me about transitioning to DN?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Congrats. I don't care who or what you follow on twitter. The point (again) is that it's really inaccurate to take your twitter feed and describe it as representative of the entire country. We're days into this and you still haven't grasped this, or you're deflecting and changing topic to save face.

Im waiting for you to school me on sources other than twitter on how to be as open minded and rational as you lol.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Congrats. I don't care who or what you follow on twitter. The point (again) is that it's really inaccurate to take your twitter feed and describe it as representative of the entire country. We're days into this and you still haven't grasped this, or you're deflecting and changing topic to save face.

We are days into this and your point is still ridiculous and you cant answer to me who or what I should be doing to get out of "the strawman bubble you created for me. Its a strawman and you know it. Just because I pointed to my twitter feed (and all its many sources of information) does not mean thats the ONLY source of my information and opinions. lol

You want me to post the paper articles of well know GOP people saying awful shit? I can do that but its easier just to post the twitter link. You want me to post a Fox news article where McCarthy talks about hammering Pelosi with the gavel? I will do that but its easier to post the twtter link here.... lol

And when i follow hundreds of political, religious, and bsiness people via my feed and I can quickly peruse and see what they are saying and retweeting and posting ... I can assess which way the weather is blowing rather efficeintly. That doesnt mean its my only source of info like the strawman you created purports.

WHEN PEOPLE TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE...BELIEVE THEM.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, but the nutjob who attacked Paul Pelosi was an illegal immigrant (overstayed his visa) and was living in some hippie commune. Doesn't exactly fit the MAGA roster stereotype, but I also have major questions as to how he got in that house.

Yes he was from Canada but he was heavily influenced by right wing social media conspiracies. I guess hippies doare abit lazefaire with whom they allow to live in their communes.

Analyst: Pelosi attacker spurred by right-wing media | Reuters Video

The violent attack on U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband Paul was likely spurred on by the echo-chamber of right-wing social media sites and vitriolic rhetoric by Pelosi’s political opponents, a researcher of online extremism, Rita Katz, told Reuters on Monday (October 31).

www.reuters.com

Paul Pelosi’s Alleged Attacker’s Facebook Page Filled With 2020 Election Conspiracies, Reports Say

David Depape’s Facebook page featured videos of My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell peddling false claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from former President Donald Trump, according to reports.

www.forbes.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Interesting that the "law and order" people are making up bullshit about and or mocking what happened to Paul Pelosi.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Yes he was from Canada but he was heavily influenced by right wing social media conspiracies. I guess hippies doare abit lazefaire with whom they allow to live in their communes.

Analyst: Pelosi attacker spurred by right-wing media | Reuters Video

The violent attack on U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband Paul was likely spurred on by the echo-chamber of right-wing social media sites and vitriolic rhetoric by Pelosi’s political opponents, a researcher of online extremism, Rita Katz, told Reuters on Monday (October 31).

www.reuters.com

Paul Pelosi’s Alleged Attacker’s Facebook Page Filled With 2020 Election Conspiracies, Reports Say

David Depape’s Facebook page featured videos of My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell peddling false claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from former President Donald Trump, according to reports.

www.forbes.com

Just another situation of social media pushing a lunatic over the edge, it’s a story we will continue to see ad nauseum. Mr. DePape apparently also had a drug problem. The bus that he lived in appears to have a BLM flag and Pride flag flying on it as well so maybe he was trying to be fair and balanced? I wonder if he was a vulnerable loner……

 

[TorontoGold]

Interesting that the "law and order" people are making up bullshit about and or mocking what happened to Paul Pelosi.

They were very prudent on pointing out Maxine Waters comments. I'm sure they're just doing their research.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Just another situation of social media pushing a lunatic over the edge, it’s a story we will continue to see ad nauseum. Mr. DePape apparently also had a drug problem. The bus that he lived in appears to have a BLM flag and Pride flag flying on it as well so maybe he was trying to be fair and balanced? I wonder if he was a vulnerable loner……

Or maybe he was living where he could since he overstayed his visa and those symbols werent his?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

They were very prudent on pointing out Maxine Waters comments. I'm sure they're just doing their research.

Fair and Balanced non twitter source please

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Or maybe he was living where he could since he overstayed his visa and those symbols werent his?

Knowing that the dude was off the deep end to begin with, I’m sure we’ll all be guessing what has been going through his incoherent mind.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

We won't get much of a break here locally after next week. We have four school board seats up in April, and I'm anticipating the process is going to look like an episode of Hee Haw directed by Rob Zombie.

 

[NorthDakota]

Interesting that the "law and order" people are making up bullshit about and or mocking what happened to Paul Pelosi.

What?