'23 FL DE Keon Keeley (Prodigal Son)
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notredomer23
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This is true, but the bust rate with Florida is crazy high compared to other states like Georgia and Texas. In the top 100 from 2017 class, only 8 Floridians made the NFL out of 18. Georgia had 6 out of 10. Texas had 11 out of 15. Quickly glanced at other years but it was a similar trend.
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The big difference IMO is CA and GA are states where the top programs are also top schools. Cooper Flanagan is not only playing at an elite high school football program but he will walk on campus with the tools to succeed at Notre Dame.
Even FL players that succeeded at Notre Dame (Dexter Williams, Kevin Austen, Louis Nix) struggled to adapt on campus.
Even FL players that succeeded at Notre Dame (Dexter Williams, Kevin Austen, Louis Nix) struggled to adapt on campus.
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Oh I'm under no allusions. Just curious for those that followed recruiting back then how much of a long shot Te'o was in comparison.
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The Te'o commitment was the single best recruiting moment I've seen. About the only time we beat Carroll in anything during those years. Still don't think Weis gets enough credit for landing him. Very unlikely Kelly goes 12-0 without him on the roster. That being said, I think Keeley would be a longer shot as I think the chance is 0%
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A bunch of top GA schools are not good academically either, we just never happen land any of those guys.
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They should be focusing on the Catholic powerhouses in Aquinas, Columbus and Tampa Jesuit. Not because they’re Catholic, but you know those kids will meet the grade requirements and play great competition.
Public schools down South are dicey. Larger public schools like American Heritage should pump out kids that are competent academically but it’s really a crap shoot. Coney struggled early academically but since he was committed, he got through it.
I actually wouldn’t mind somewhat lowering the standards for a kid that really wants to come to ND and is dedicated to the classroom. The problem is, it’s rare to find kids who will do that, when they can just go to an SEC school.
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ND does well with the Private schools in ATL. Also, Buford is the top team in the state and have one of the highest rated schools in the state. Like Florida, the issue lies in the inner city & rural public schools. Middle class & affluent public schools shouldn’t be an issue.
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Can he ask god for a QB?
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They still are though. Who was the last public school guy from GA we landed? Cane Berrong from a rural school. The only Atlanta suburban public school guys we landed under BK are:
2010: TJ Jones (ND Legacy) from Gainesville (pretty far from Atlanta)
2018: Derek Allen from Lassiter
That’s it. In that time we’ve landed more rural school kids (Tuitt, Newsom, Flemister, Berrong) and private school kids (Rochell, Tremble, Hamilton, Bertrand, KJ Wallace, Khari Gee, Thomas, Colzie, and Staes). None of those schools are very big powerhouses in GA, with the exception of Blessed Trinity and ELCA for Bertrand and Rochell. We have not recruited the powerhouse schools in GA very well, regardless of affluence.
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ND has a lot going against them, especially if they are not willing to play the NIL game like the big boys. As American children get dumber and dumber and even less religious what does ND have to offer? America itself is evolving into something ND is not, a dumb sacrilegious country. Playing on NBC is a big shoulder shrug, especially with the boring ass talent they bring in to call the games. The one thing trending in college sports is money which ND has a lot of, but ND has morals and values.... something America is trending away from as well, sadly.
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Don’t get your hopes up.
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He's just waiting for the Bama check to clear.
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What's taking so long...I mean this is Bama.
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He’ll probably take it to signing day and get the biggest bidder to ante up.
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Tbh, that’s the only reason ND has a shot. Maybe a donor has some cajones by then.
Edit: by shot, I mean around 1%
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Lol he could easily go past signing day to ham it up even more
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When that’s driving the recruitment, it’d be crazy not to wait until the most desperate team backs up the truck.
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Sure but he's not actually going full NIL. He has gone and visited Bama and Ohio State. No Oregon, no Miami, no A&M or Tennessee. Elite programs, that will also pay. Not the desperate.
I still want to know what went so sideways with us that we're not even talking to the kid anymore.
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I have a theory that if you’re a 5 star guy you want to be the last one standing….
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Not only that but I’m sure waiting can be lucrative with programs willing to pay just to visit. Then the highest bidder scenario comes in.
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It will for sure play out that in this current NIL era. Why commit early? Securing a spot or play the supply and demand game and the desperation game and wait them out to get a heavier bag.
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Ugh. my bad. Thanks for the correction. I’ll delete it so as to not cause a million more posts on a non-issue.
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Shawn on the Irish breakdown podcast today said that Keeley, who cut off communication with the 23 class two weeks prior to decommitting, has started talking to recruits again since the Clemson game. Still doesn't think our chances are good but made it sound like they are not zero anymore. Also said if we beat USC it will probably improve more.