Trump Presidency

[GATTACA!]

It would only be fair if they let Hilary wipe her servers to at least give Donald a heads up… but here we are. It’s laughable you guys think it’s completely okay to raid a political opponent and former presidents home for some documents. The optics of this are really bad. I’m sure there was another way to accomplish whatever it was they were trying to accomplish.

Shouldn’t matter if he has nothing to hide.

Or at least that’s what I’m told when this happens to poor blank people.

 

[GATTACA!]

Care to explain why you think it's fine that Trump took boxes of classified records from the White House on his way out?

He was hungry

 

[Sea Turtle]

National Archives: Trump took classified items to Mar-a-Lago

"Federal law bars the removal of classified documents to unauthorized locations"

Care to explain why you think it's fine that Trump took boxes of classified records from the White House on his way out?

I guess because it was ok for Sandy Berger to walk into the archives, stuff documents down his pants and walk out and just lose them?

I think people just want consistency.

 

[TorontoGold]

Shouldn’t matter if he has nothing to hide.

Or at least that’s what I’m told when this happens to poor blank people.

Not the same people celebrating the FBI having HB's laptop and chanted for HC to locked up, now outraged? Truly an emotional illogical argument. Something something facts feelings.

Law enforcement has now become a leftist woke ideology apparently.

 

[GoIrish41]

Not the same people celebrating the FBI having HB's laptop and chanted for HC to locked up, now outraged? Truly an emotional illogical argument. Something something facts feelings.

Law enforcement has now become a leftist woke ideology apparently.

Defund the FBI.

 

[TorontoGold]

I guess because it was ok for Sandy Berger to walk into the archives, stuff documents down his pants and walk out and just lose them?

I think people just want consistency.

Sandy Berger’s crime

Martha Stewart went to jail for lying to federal investigators. But for lying after stealing highly classified documents from the National Archives — in an apparent attempt to alter the historical record on terrorism, no less — former Clinton national security adviser and Kerry campaign adviser...

www.washingtontimes.com

He got charged, so I guess you're correct people would probably like consistency.

 

[GATTACA!]

Stealing this from reddit. So true lol.

What’s most striking to me is how the FBI raided a former President’s home and we’re all left speculating on which crime it was about.

 

[ACamp1900]

I guess because it was ok for Sandy Berger to walk into the archives, stuff documents down his pants and walk out and just lose them?

I think people just want consistency.

And more but yeah,… consistency would be nice but I don’t even care much here. If this prevents him from running then I’m as good as I can be with it

 

[ab2cmiller]

If Trump thought that this was even remotely possible, how likely is it that he would've retained any of the information they are looking for. It seems like he would've destroyed everything.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Unreal. Never thought I would see the day. He obviously had documents he didn’t turn over when they came a fe months ago. They knew exactly what they were looking for and where it was.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This article. Wow

 

[SonofOahu]

Hey guys, what's new?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😭😭

 

[GATTACA!]

This article. Wow

Lock themselves in a bunker and blow their own brains out?

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I guess because it was ok for Sandy Berger to walk into the archives, stuff documents down his pants and walk out and just lose them?

I think people just want consistency.

Let’s see Obama was 44, Trump was 45, what number President was Berger?

 

[Irish#1]

The guy he shares the data with is a known Russian agent who is also now on the FBI wanted list:

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/konstantin-viktorovich-kilimnik

And FTR he shared what the Mueller report called “sensitive internal GOP polling data and campaign strategy” and is by its very nature is NOT public.
The Senate select committee report said they had evidence Kilimjick was actively working for GRU at the time of the hack and leak operation in2016.

He shared multiple tranches of internal data with KK leading up to the election even when he wasn’t a legitimate part of the campaign anymore.
Gotta disagree vociferously with your “take”

Well this is a shocking turn of events.

 

[Irish#1]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😭😭

It doesn't get any better for Cack! lol

 

[Irish#1]

Astounding event. I am reserving opinion on this until I hear what the basis for the search warrant(s) were.
I believe that this individual was/is one of the worst persons living in our world, and maybe still the most dangerous, but I am not going to create an opinion about this precise occurrence until I get a LOT of data on this thing. If this turns out to be an FBI screw-up then that's what I will accept thoroughly, regardless of my prejudices against him as a general piece of filth. Everyone deserves American true justice, even him.

This is where I'm at. If this is simply to recover the documents he took with him, this is being overblown, which the media loves to do. Get them and return them to the WH.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Bang up day when the story about Trump wanting his generals to be like Hitler's wasn't even the biggest story of the day about him.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This is where I'm at. If this is simply to recover the documents he took with him, this is being overblown, which the media loves to do. Get them and return them to the WH.

They already went one time. I figured you would know this as balanced as you are.

It’s also a criminal issue but I’d expect you to take that seriously too. Nine hours on-site. An unannounced raid and they broke open his safe. I’m sure it all overblown….

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Well this is a shocking turn of events.

Yeah I know. I’m such a bad dude for telling the facts and arguing with those that gotta make themselves feel better about those facts.

 

[Irish#1]

Bang up day when the story about Trump wanting his generals to be like Hitler's wasn't even the biggest story of the day about him.

There's so many stories about Trump some are bound to get glossed over.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Hey guys, what's new?

Teacher shortages in Florida and Texas.

The 2016 "storage of classified materials" single issue voters are probably having a morning of reflection right now. Or not.

Otherwise, in my opinion, not much.

 

[RDU Irish]

Trump trolls do not disappoint. So giddy and pop straight out of the woodwork - THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!!!!

LOL at anyone placing "trust" in the Federal Bureau of Instigation. I am all for uprooting corruption in government - the four year politician ain't the head of the snake folks. I find this incredibly foreboding - anyone who threatens the leviathan better be a billionaire with unlimited resources to fight back. But hey - what could possibly go wrong with doubling the IRS headcount.

 

[Irish#1]

They already went one time. I figured you would know this as balanced as you are.

It’s also a criminal issue but I’d expect you to take that seriously too. Nine hours on-site. An unannounced raid and they broke open his safe. I’m sure it all overblown….

I know they were there before. I'm guessing they finally got through reviewing what they brought back from the first time and saw they didn't get everything. Probably because Trump hid some stuff or didn't offer their location. (I apologize in advance if that statement gave you a heart attack.) They went back unannounced so he couldn't hide or destroy anything. If my guess is correct, the judge who authorized this, probably told them this would be the last time, so make sure you get everything. Given the size of the place and making sure they got everything, nine hours isn't surprising.

 

[Old Man Mike]

The issue here seems to be violations of security of high state documents, which could contain issues endangering elements of national security. This is NOT a joke, or "just one of those things." There are very good reasons in this very dangerous and nasty dark world for prohibiting persons (of ANY rank) taking documents to any non-secure location. ALL documents must be thoroughly vetted in secret by professionals before their national security implications (if any) are assessed. Violations of this are against a serious law. It's NOT a casual act; that comment would be extremely naive. And, it is not acceptable for anyone to make Security assessments on their own. This person has been briefed on this issue long ago when taking office, and has been told more than once after office that he was wrong to take these documents and must return them, as they are not his property for good state department reasons.

As an aside: when this guy was elected, I heard two different former directors of security elements in our country (one a three letter agency and one a military high-rank) who said that the "personality" of this individual was a concern. The "loose cannon" nature of his speaking in public was shocking enough that talk within a certain three-letter agency was whether they needed (for security purposes only --- as that's all they care about in that place) NOT to include certain types of information in briefings. This worry was almost immediately actualized when the new President made off-the-cuff revealing comments about US military plans.

Republican supporters REALLY need to get back to their roots and Dump Trump out of them. This guy's no republican anyway; just a self-aggrandizing megalomaniac looking only to his own ego story. The True Republican/ True Democrat dichotomy is a good balancing of power when both are advocating their root policies AND are talking to one another. We must get back to that to have a well-functioning and civil governance. This @sshat is the never-wavering Divider of all that. (Even destroying or trying to destroy everyone in the Republican Party who doesn't trail obediently in his ego's wake. How people don't see this stuns me.)

.... but I'm still reserving judgement on the reasonableness of this current search order and the extent of damage possible, until more comes in. I still stand by the above paragraphs whether he was badly-treated by the Justice Department on this search operation or not. I don't want Rogue operations in my ideal USA either, so let's see if this was rogue or legal and just.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I know they were there before. I'm guessing they finally got through reviewing what they brought back from the first time and saw they didn't get everything (probably because Trump hid some stuff or didn't offer their location). They went back unannounced so he couldn't hide or destroy anything. If my guess is correct, the judge who authorized this, probably told them this would be the last time, so make sure you get everything. Given the size of the place and making sure they got everything, nine hours isn't surprising.

So why would he lie the first time and not turn stuff over? Search warrants are very specific. They don’t allow a LEO to just search the whole property. It would have to be very specific.

 

[Blazers46]

Unreal. Never thought I would see the day. He obviously had documents he didn’t turn over when they came a fe months ago. They knew exactly what they were looking for and where it was.

They already went one time. I figured you would know this as balanced as you are.

It’s also a criminal issue but I’d expect you to take that seriously too. Nine hours on-site. An unannounced raid and they broke open his safe. I’m sure it all overblown….

9 hours on site. They obviously knew what they were looking for and where it was. Had to break open a safe. Sounds like me looking for keys and wallet in the morning. 😂

Judging by the amount of posts this is like your Christmas but will probably turn into another Russia gate. Are you assuming just because there was a raid on Trumps house something will actually come out of this? Like a kid in a candy store.

 

[Blazers46]

The issue here seems to be violations of security of high state documents, which could contain issues endangering elements of national security. This is NOT a joke, or "just one of those things." There are very good reasons in this very dangerous and nasty dark world for prohibiting persons (of ANY rank) taking documents to any non-secure location. ALL documents must be thoroughly vetted in secret by professionals before their national security implications (if any) are assessed. Violations of this are against a serious law. It's NOT a casual act; that comment would be extremely naive. And, it is not acceptable for anyone to make Security assessments on their own. This person has been briefed on this issue long ago when taking office, and has been told more than once after office that he was wrong to take these documents and must return them, as they are not his property for good state department reasons.

As an aside: when this guy was elected, I heard two different former directors of security elements in our country (one a three letter agency and one a military high-rank) who said that the "personality" of this individual was a concern. The "loose cannon" nature of his speaking in public was shocking enough that talk within a certain three-letter agency was whether they needed (for security purposes only --- as that's all they care about in that place) NOT to include certain types of information in briefings. This worry was almost immediately actualized when the new President made off-the-cuff revealing comments about US military plans.

Republican supporters REALLY need to get back to their roots and Dump Trump out of them. This guy's no republican anyway; just a self-aggrandizing megalomaniac looking only to his own ego story. The True Republican/ True Democrat dichotomy is a good balancing of power when both are advocating their root policies AND are talking to one another. We must get back to that to have a well-functioning and civil governance. This @sshat is the never-wavering Divider of all that. (Even destroying or trying to destroy everyone in the Republican Party who doesn't trail obediently in his ego's wake. How people don't see this stuns me.)

.... but I'm still reserving judgement on the reasonableness of this current search order and the extent of damage possible, until more comes in. I still stand by the above paragraphs whether he was badly-treated by the Justice Department on this search operation or not. I don't want Rogue operations in my ideal USA either, so let's see if this was rogue or legal and just.

This man needs to go away. I feel like poking the bear might be a good strategy to make him run. I hope the man gets indicted or charged with something so Republicans can just move on.