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[irishff1014]

Who cares about her. She thought she was bigger than the world. Other places have laws too and in those places they don’t care where you are from. Let her stay there.

 

[TorontoGold]

Toronto should be able to give a good explanation as to why this is perfectly fine and acceptable behavior.

Not sure why you would think I support people looking each other's junk.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I'm not a weed guy, but 9 years seems just a liiiiittle bit too much for a weed sentence, especially in a Russian prison. Knowing that Russia is gonna Russia, I still don't get what would possess her to bring banned substances over there. It's like the college student that tried to steal North Korean propaganda while he was visiting, you're just asking for trouble.

Very draconian. That said, how many years has she been playing in Russia? She’s obviously intelligent if she earned a degree from Baylor but even if she didn’t realize the strict laws why wouldn’t her agent look out for her w/ reminders (“Hey you know Russia doesn’t play around w/ weed…”). IIRC, the average sentence for her crime in Russia is ~5 years so Putin is definitely playing this up to the hilt. In America, she would’ve gotten a slap on the wrist (if anything) and even if it was more serious, she’s a millionaire and can afford high-priced attorneys to make it go away. Guess USA ain’t so bad.

 

[GATTACA!]

Very draconian. That said, how many years has she been playing in Russia? She’s obviously intelligent if she earned a degree from Baylor but even if she didn’t realize the strict laws why wouldn’t her agent look out for her w/ reminders (“Hey you know Russia doesn’t play around w/ weed…”). IIRC, the average sentence for her crime in Russia is ~5 years so Putin is definitely playing this up to the hilt. In America, she would’ve gotten a slap on the wrist (if anything) and even if it was more serious, she’s a millionaire and can afford high-priced attorneys to make it go away. Guess USA ain’t so bad.

I haven't really looked into the story too much, but wasn't it just a weed vape pen? If so I can buy that she simply forgot she had it in her bag. Stupid for sure but it's not like she was trying to smuggle a bunch in.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I haven't really looked into the story too much, but wasn't it just a weed vape pen? If so I can buy that she simply forgot she had it in her bag. Stupid for sure but it's not like she was trying to smuggle a bunch in.

Putin is certainly using the situation to his advantage.

 

[ulukinatme]

Very draconian. That said, how many years has she been playing in Russia? She’s obviously intelligent if she earned a degree from Baylor but even if she didn’t realize the strict laws why wouldn’t her agent look out for her w/ reminders (“Hey you know Russia doesn’t play around w/ weed…”). IIRC, the average sentence for her crime in Russia is ~5 years so Putin is definitely playing this up to the hilt. In America, she would’ve gotten a slap on the wrist (if anything) and even if it was more serious, she’s a millionaire and can afford high-priced attorneys to make it go away. Guess USA ain’t so bad.

It's clear repercussions as we have helped stymie the war effort in Ukraine, of course. I thought Russia was tough on weed, but then I saw something today where a similar infraction against a Russian local only netted them a 2 month prison sentence. Quite the double standard!

 

[Irish#1]

Dori: Port Townsend Woman, 80, banned from pool after dispute with biological male in women’s shower - MyNorthwest.com

“I saw a man in a woman’s bathing suit watching maybe four or five little girls pulling down their suits in order to use the toilet,” Jaman recalled.

mynorthwest.com

Ouch! YMCA ran by idiots.

 

[Irish#1]

Putin is certainly using the situation to his advantage.

No doubt.

Question for everyone: Would you be in favor of a trade for Griner if it involves The Merchant of Death?

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I haven't really looked into the story too much, but wasn't it just a weed vape pen? If so I can buy that she simply forgot she had it in her bag. Stupid for sure but it's not like she was trying to smuggle a bunch in.

I agree…but in a country like Russia w/ Draconian rules, one has to be extra careful. I could see if this was her first trip there but how many years has she played in Russia in the WNBA offseason? I don’t think anyone thinks she deserves the sentence she got but she’s clearly a pawn at this point.

 

[NorthDakota]

I haven't really looked into the story too much, but wasn't it just a weed vape pen? If so I can buy that she simply forgot she had it in her bag. Stupid for sure but it's not like she was trying to smuggle a bunch in.

I'm with ya. Haven't looked into it much.

I dont know what Russia's rules are, how strictly they are enforced, etc. But...at the same time ya gotta be careful when you go to places like that.

 

[ab2cmiller]

LOL. Yeah, I'll get right on that.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Didn’t know where else to put this. But this is horrifying precedent.

 

[Bishop2b5]

She broke the law. It's common for law enforcement to access texts, phone records, mail, GPS, and any other sources to prosecute criminal acts. Just because you don't like a particular law, that doesn't mean you can break it with impunity.

 

[Irish#1]

LOL. Yeah, I'll get right on that.

I will as soon as I get done sorting my socks.

 

[GATTACA!]

LOL. Yeah, I'll get right on that.

Perks of being the victors.

Should add two more face. JFK and Reagan?

 

[ulukinatme]

This is pretty cool. Dunno how many people have been following, but a lot of protests have been going on the last 5 days in Iran.

 

[Irish#1]

This is pretty cool. Dunno how many people have been following, but a lot of protests have been going on the last 5 days in Iran.

I heard about the girl dying while in custody. Maybe this is the beginning of the end over there.

 

[bobbyok1]

This is pretty cool. Dunno how many people have been following, but a lot of protests have been going on the last 5 days in Iran.

Love to see those who are being oppressed and held down, rise up to defy the dictators and those who rule with an iron fist in their lives.

God bless the Iranian people who are rising up, and especially those women who are stepping out so courageously, putting their lives on the line to demonstrate their defiance.

 

[calvegas04]

That was maybe the most obvious targeting I’ve ever seen.

Over the next week (Sept 23-27) the nail in the coffin is coming as 4 regions of Western Ukraine (who are very Russian in culture, and at least two of which have been at odds with Eastern Ukraine for years) are now poised to hold referendums to join the Russian Federation. Which by the way, at least in the Donbas Region, the fighting has been between Donbas Militia forces (with support from the Russian Army) versus the Ukrainian Army. When these referendums go through, as expected, it will become the full might of the Russian Army versus the Ukrainian Army.

This along with other geopolitical shifts previous, current, and coming, have many prognosticators seeing a significant move away from "globalism" and a move towards "nationalism/traditionalism/tribalism" worldwide. Ukraine being a chess-piece of Globalism.

Many nations are wanting to return to their historical roots, traditions, customs, cultures, religions, etc. And they are desiring to move away from the "one size fits all" atheistic globalism that has been pushed by Western powers for decades.

While there are often bad actors on both sides of these shifts, I for one see this as a very positive thing globally.

P.S. Expect lots of "Russia is the Devil" language coming on Western media over the next couple of weeks.

Russias military no longer has the ability to be "full might" and these "referendums" won't change Ukraine taking back it's territory

 

[bobbyok1]

Russias military no longer has the ability to be "full might" and these "referendums" won't change Ukraine taking back it's territory

First, if you are going to offer claims as such, it might be good to back them up with further logic and/or sources.

Second, when I say "full might", I am referring to the Russian soldiers/infantry doing the fighting with their military arsenal, rather than a Western Ukraine Militia fighting with Russian supplies. I wasn't expressing the idea that the entire Russian Army would be fighting in one location.

Third, at no point in this conflict has Ukraine "taken back" anything, they have only lost ground. On what grounds do you make such a claim that they will take back "It's territory"? Which by the way, is a "territory" that has been fighting against Ukrainian control for years, lol

I fear you have only been listening to the Western media outlets I spoke of in my "P.S." address.

 

[calvegas04]

First, if you are going to offer claims as such, it might be good to back them up with further logic and/or sources.

Second, when I say "full might", I am referring to the Russian soldiers/infantry doing the fighting with their military arsenal, rather than a Western Ukraine Militia fighting with Russian supplies. I wasn't expressing the idea that the entire Russian Army would be fighting in one location.

Third, at no point in this conflict has Ukraine "taken back" anything, they have only lost ground. On what grounds do you make such a claim that they will take back "It's territory"? Which by the way, is a "territory" that has been fighting against Ukrainian control for years, lol

I fear you have only been listening to the Western media outlets I spoke of in my "P.S." address.

Why would they start a mass mobilization if they have only been losing anti Ukraine separatist? Clearly Russia is losing a lot of man power.

They might not even have enough equipment to outfit all these new soldiers they are drafting off the street and prisons.

All it would take is for one other country to join Ukraine in the fight and russia would lose all the land it has illegally occupied since 2014 and cripple the Russian military.

 

[Armyirish47]

Why would they start a mass mobilization if they have only been losing anti Ukraine separatist? Clearly Russia is losing a lot of man power.

They might not even have enough equipment to outfit all these new soldiers they are drafting off the street and prisons.

All it would take is for one other country to join Ukraine in the fight and russia would lose all the land it has illegally occupied since 2014 and cripple the Russian military.

The 300,000 are for the victory parades after the totally, definite legitimate elections!

 

[Valpodoc85]

All Putin has left is bluster. The Russian military is fraught with corruption and ineptitude. The truth has been shaded from Putin. Hard to keep up the ruse.
I expect Biden would like this to be over by the mid term elections

 

[bobbyok1]

I am amazed at the lack of understanding

Why would they start a mass mobilization if they have only been losing anti Ukraine separatist? Clearly Russia is losing a lot of man power.

They might not even have enough equipment to outfit all these new soldiers they are drafting off the street and prisons.

All it would take is for one other country to join Ukraine in the fight and russia would lose all the land it has illegally occupied since 2014 and cripple the Russian military.

I never suggested Russia hadn't lost any manpower. I am only explaining that they have lost no ground to Ukrainian forces, and that has been the case without Russian forces being fully engaged in the fight. I'm not suggesting Russia is some superpower who cannot be defeated, far from it. I am only explaining the realities of the current Russia/Ukraine conflict.

There are plenty of reasons beyond "losing a lot of man power" to mass mobilize. One such reason is to prepare for the escalation of conflict engagement. Once the 4 regions in Western Ukraine join the Russian Federation, there will be plenty of concern of the heightened possibility of Western forces (e.g. NATO) upping the anti. This will be a tactical "win" for Russia, and seeing how the West has held up Ukraine as the great democracy and bulwark of freedom (let me hold back my vomit), there is the real possibility of increased NATO involvement.

Ukraine is nothing more than a chess piece for Globalist endeavors, and that is the only reason why NATO is involved. Western media outlets have painted a picture of this conflict that is far from reality, proclaiming all along the way that Russia is going to topple at any moment. This is simply not the case. Russia has this conflict solidly in hand and is increasing checking off the boxes of their desired intents.

I will be interested to hear the explanations when things go as I have explained.

 

[ulukinatme]

I am amazed at the lack of understanding

I never suggested Russia hadn't lost any manpower. I am only explaining that they have lost no ground to Ukrainian forces, and that has been the case without Russian forces being fully engaged in the fight. I'm not suggesting Russia is some superpower who cannot be defeated, far from it. I am only explaining the realities of the current Russia/Ukraine conflict.

There are plenty of reasons beyond "losing a lot of man power" to mass mobilize. One such reason is to prepare for the escalation of conflict engagement. Once the 4 regions in Western Ukraine join the Russian Federation, there will be plenty of concern of the heightened possibility of Western forces (e.g. NATO) upping the anti. This will be a tactical "win" for Russia, and seeing how the West has held up Ukraine as the great democracy and bulwark of freedom (let me hold back my vomit), there is the real possibility of increased NATO involvement.

Ukraine is nothing more than a chess piece for Globalist endeavors, and that is the only reason why NATO is involved. Western media outlets have painted a picture of this conflict that is far from reality, proclaiming all along the way that Russia is going to topple at any moment. This is simply not the case. Russia has this conflict solidly in hand and is increasing checking off the boxes of their desired intents.

I will be interested to hear the explanations when things go as I have explained.

I haven't been keeping up completely, but I did see something the other day that suggests Ukraine has retaken some significant land in the last month. Is this possibly propaganda leading up to the November elections so people don't feel we're wasting our money? I've seen some reports that they've regained roughly 6,000 square miles of land.

News Wrap: Ukraine pushes Russian troops back in northeastern region

In our news wrap Saturday, a Ukrainian counteroffensive has made major gains against Russian forces in the northeastern part of the country, Charles III was ceremonially proclaimed king in the U.K., the DOJ and Donald Trump's legal team have each proposed independent arbiter candidates to review...

www.pbs.org

 

[Irish#1]

I am amazed at the lack of understanding

I never suggested Russia hadn't lost any manpower. I am only explaining that they have lost no ground to Ukrainian forces, and that has been the case without Russian forces being fully engaged in the fight. I'm not suggesting Russia is some superpower who cannot be defeated, far from it. I am only explaining the realities of the current Russia/Ukraine conflict.

Are you talking specifically about territory behind the Russian border? If so, you are correct. If you're looking at the war in general, Russia has lost a significant amount of territory that they took during the fighting. Ulukinatme posted the article that shows the recent advances Ukraine forces made to take back Ukrainian land. Prior to that, there have been plenty of examples where areas once occupied by Russian in the early stages have been reclaimed by the Ukranian forces.

BTW, we have a thread for this. A mode should move this discussion there.

 

[bobbyok1]

Are you talking specifically about territory behind the Russian border? If so, you are correct. If you're looking at the war in general, Russia has lost a significant amount of territory that they took during the fighting. Ulukinatme posted the article that shows the recent advances Ukraine forces made to take back Ukrainian land. Prior to that, there have been plenty of examples where areas once occupied by Russian in the early stages have been reclaimed by the Ukranian forces.

BTW, we have a thread for this. A mode should move this discussion there

Thanks for your feedback here, this helps move the conversation forward. Honestly the entire focus of my initial conversation has gone a little sideways. To wrap up the subject at hand, a flaw in my argumentation at times is in my tendency to speak in generalities (big picture), which is how I think most of the time.

When I said "I am only explaining that they have lost no ground to Ukrainian forces", what I had in mind was my overall focus. That Russia is not losing this conflict, and that being the case without them fully engaging their military forces. My quoted wording above was a bit reactionary to another broadly worded post about the inevitability of Ukraine eventually retaking the 4 regions who are about to join the Russian Federation. What I should have said instead was, Russia is not losing ground that is going to shift the outcome of this conflict away from a Russian victory and long term Russian control of what is currently Western regions of Ukraine. That is what I had in mind.

To try and redirect this conversation back to the original reason I posted it here in "culture" instead of the Russia/Ukraine forum, I think the outcome of this conflict is going to significantly impact CULTURAL REALITIES worldwide including here in the U.S. This conflict in my view is one that is tied to the larger geopolitical shift away from globalism and towards "nationalism/traditionalism/patriotism/tribalism". It seems globalism in its current form has begun to run its course, and there is a worldwide shift back to countries rediscovering their ancestral roots. Ukraine is a chess piece for globalism, which is why many believe the West is so heavily vested in it.

Going forward I'd prefer to keep the focus of the conversation on the thrust of my original post for any who wish to engage. In short that is "Russia defeating Ukraine would play a significant part in the undoing of Globalism and the resurgence of Nationalism/Traditionalism/Patriotism/Tribalism." Personally I think that is an appropriate conversation for a "Culture" forum because it is discussing cultural shifts on a worldwide level. But if mods see it as a better fit for the Russia/Ukraine forum, I'm okay with that as well.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Definitely needs to be moved.

 

[Irish#1]

Thanks for your feedback here, this helps move the conversation forward. Honestly the entire focus of my initial conversation has gone a little sideways. To wrap up the subject at hand, a flaw in my argumentation at times is in my tendency to speak in generalities (big picture), which is how I think most of the time.

When I said "I am only explaining that they have lost no ground to Ukrainian forces", what I had in mind was my overall focus. That Russia is not losing this conflict, and that being the case without them fully engaging their military forces. My quoted wording above was a bit reactionary to another broadly worded post about the inevitability of Ukraine eventually retaking the 4 regions who are about to join the Russian Federation. What I should have said instead was, Russia is not losing ground that is going to shift the outcome of this conflict away from a Russian victory and long term Russian control of what is currently Western regions of Ukraine. That is what I had in mind.

To try and redirect this conversation back to the original reason I posted it here in "culture" instead of the Russia/Ukraine forum, I think the outcome of this conflict is going to significantly impact CULTURAL REALITIES worldwide including here in the U.S. This conflict in my view is one that is tied to the larger geopolitical shift away from globalism and towards "nationalism/traditionalism/patriotism/tribalism". It seems globalism in its current form has begun to run its course, and there is a worldwide shift back to countries rediscovering their ancestral roots. Ukraine is a chess piece for globalism, which is why many believe the West is so heavily vested in it.

Going forward I'd prefer to keep the focus of the conversation on the thrust of my original post for any who wish to engage. In short that is "Russia defeating Ukraine would play a significant part in the undoing of Globalism and the resurgence of Nationalism/Traditionalism/Patriotism/Tribalism." Personally I think that is an appropriate conversation for a "Culture" forum because it is discussing cultural shifts on a worldwide level. But if mods see it as a better fit for the Russia/Ukraine forum, I'm okay with that as well.

Understand you want to talk about the cultural shift, thus posting here instead of the other thread. The reason it needs to be moved is that the cultural shift is a result of the Ukrainian/Russian war.

 

[bobbyok1]

Understand you want to talk about the cultural shift, thus posting here instead of the other thread. The reason it needs to be moved is that the cultural shift is a result of the Ukrainian/Russian war.

Whichever is fine with me