The Optimal Notre Dame Scheduling Model

AKRowdy

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Tbh who the hell cares. It’s a home game. Will have a problem if we lose. So tired of this we are holier than thou attitude of some ND fans. It’s a football game strap on the helmet and play. Plus cheaper tickets for me to go!
 

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I like it a lot, great chance to highlight some players on a stage that would not have dreamed of it before and far more interesting than also rans like UMASS. This budding Notre Dame - HBCU sports collaboration is two thumbs up from me.
 

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Along with being an HBCU, I note Tennessee State is coached by Ohio State legend Eddie George. Guessing that connection played a part here too.

I was thinking that too.

I'm not even looking at the HBCU angle here because this program plays in a conference that even for FCS looks pretty damn week. Hell, they have three members that don't even have football. TSU is one of the smallest members enrollment wise. Eastern Illinois and UT Martin are the only ones smaller.

Having been an intern and GA at an FCS school, I can tell you that money is probably terribly scarce. ND is going to cut TSU a check for this game, which they probably desperately need post Covid now more than ever. So ND needed a game after Ireland, TSU needs some money. A couple of former Buckeye players are HC of the programs currently.

Anyone worried about ND losing this game seriously needs to have an edible and chill. The talent levels are light years apart.
 

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But this shouldn’t be the case. Beating those teams is important but so is winning the games against the Pitts and Wake Forests of the world. Most teams don’t beat every decent team the play, the perception that those are automatic wins that shouldn’t count towards SOS is silly imo
I don’t totally disagree but if we go 20-4 the next two years with losses to Clemson 2x and OSU 2x, the perception will be we’re overrated and pretenders.
 

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Sad we can’t even have our Saturday football with out it being political. That’s all this is and it’s bullshit.
 

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Playing a FCS team and using a HBCU as a crutch to not anger the fanbase.

We play 12 games. I don't want to watch a 5-6 FCS team in one of them. At least make it a MAC or Sun Belt level program.
So what the hell does this have to do with "liberals ruin everything"
 

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Sad we can’t even have our Saturday football with out it being political. That’s all this is and it’s bullshit.
Right, there’s no other reason for ND to schedule an HBCU than politics.

The program that’s around because of US government support during war time. The marquee program, on its own network, with a black head coach, welcoming a HBCU to South Bend.

It’s definitely not about making in roads, or connections, or helping build ND’s diverse culture. No way! It’s dirty, no-good, god-forsaken politics!
 

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I liked using the whole, "ND doesn't pay fcs schools". Is what it is.... I'll just start using,"it took ND until 2023 to play 1 fcs School!!" Lol. Not gonna lose sleep over it, but I do respect it more as an opener to get the team ready for the year, rather than at the end of the year as a fill in game to avoid a late season upset.
 

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Right, there’s no other reason for ND to schedule an HBCU than politics.

The program that’s around because of US government support during war time. The marquee program, on its own network, with a black head coach, welcoming a HBCU to South Bend.

It’s definitely not about making in roads, or connections, or helping build ND’s diverse culture. No way! It’s dirty, no-good, god-forsaken politics!
What sort of connections?
 

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I will say it like this....when ND hired Freeman, it signaled a shift. ND will always be ND, but the ND under Freeman will be significantly different than the ND under Kelly. What BK did for ND was great, just like I anticipate what Freeman will do will be great. But Kelly took a disorganized program and brought it to modern day. His type of program though, while successful, was more "corporate" in a sense. Prior ND players experience has been well documented. His "motivate yourself" approach was NFL like. He continued to push academics and still made ND about graduating as a changed person.

But Freeman will change kids more, or at least that is what he is pitching. Wasn't it's Tate's mom commenting on how ND was pitching how ND can change the life of African American men? This message is hardly unique in recruiting, but it can resonate more coming from Freeman and his staff versus BK and the prior staff. Then you have actions like this. It's obvious that George and Freeman were significant in getting this done. That speaks volumes to the character that Freeman has. This isn't about tradition, it's about giving kids an opportunity to play at ND that never had a chance before. Sure, ND could go an schedule the likes of UMass or Arkansas State or someone else. But even those kids typically have more opportunity than those who are going to Tenn State.

In the end, football is a game that vast majority of these kids will use to further their professional lives beyond the NFL. When Freeman tells a parent that he and the ND community will look after their kid (at a school that has ~3% of students identifying as Black/African American), his actions will back him up. In the end, ND has always been about service and community. Freeman and ND today expanded the biggest platform they have to a HBCU. ND can no longer say "We haven't played a FCS school". But if that means giving a HBCU a platform they otherwise haven't had, I see this as Freeman pushing ND to live out their mission.
 

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It's real, we're starting our season in Ireland against Navy, TSU, and Central Michigan.

Swarbrick doing all he can to tune the boys up for pOSU at home on 9/23/23 lol

About time we played along. If we beat OSU, USC and Clemson (in SC), no one is going to care about those first three. Will be ancient history.

This Bloke gets it.
 

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Along with being an HBCU, I note Tennessee State is coached by Ohio State legend Eddie George. Guessing that connection played a part here too.

It's unbelievable that 90+% of "Irish fans" on Twitter don't recognize this is what's at play here.
 

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Anyone worried about ND losing this game seriously needs to have an edible and chill. The talent levels are light years apart.
Appalachian St. (scUM) and Liberty (Baylor) say hello.

It shouldn't happen, but you never know.
 

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Appalachian St. (scUM) and Liberty (Baylor) say hello.

It shouldn't happen, but you never know.
Not really comparable. We won’t be anywhere near as bad as that Baylor team (1-11 that year) and TSU won’t be close to that Appie St. team (defending NC).
 

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Sad we can’t even have our Saturday football with out it being political. That’s all this is and it’s bullshit.
In fairness, you are the king of horrible takes. So while I was upset about losing the FBS streak, I'll gladly not stand on the hill if it means dying next to an ass like you.
 

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Watched them come in and do a jazzed up version of the ND Fight Song.

Better have a lot of health care professionals at the stadium for the strokes, heart attacks and explosive ass piss that would occur.
 

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I think its a fine move but in the end we are still playing only 12 games and one of those 12 just got relatively easier compared to a 100 ranked FBS team. Dont think for a second this wont come back and be a talking point for the committee. Somehow ND doing this while playing 12 games will still be considered weaker than Alabama playing Alcorn and Clemson playing Furman or Presbyterian.
 
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