COVID-19

[Irishize]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great work by <a href="https://twitter.com/GuptaR_lab?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GuptaR_lab</a> and colleagues on Omicron suggesting:<br>- High escape from NAbs<br>- Reduced spike cleavage efficiency<br>- Lower infectivity of lung cells<br>- Similar/higher infectivity of epithelia<br>- Impaired fusogenicity / ability to form syncytia<br>1/<a href="https://t.co/PppJQ7JySX">https://t.co/PppJQ7JySX</a> <a href="https://t.co/VGAV7ZNmyC">pic.twitter.com/VGAV7ZNmyC</a></p>— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) <a href="https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1473240778734546946?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You tried saying that vaccinated people get the virus at the same rate as unvaccinated, Bobby's study showed that to be false. I won't clog up this thread with your other inaccuracies, but still waiting for your response.

I never said "at the same rate." You just threw that in there by yourself to justify your own mental gymnastics here. You know that and it's tiresome.

 

[NDPhilly]

10-15 is still very high in the realm of infectious disease. If I were 80+ I would be getting the jab with little worry of long term effects. But I am not. I am 37, very active, very healthy. So really do not see the point (for me).

Totally agree - I think everyone ~50+ and with complicating conditions (BMI, autoimmune diseases, etc...) should be diligent about getting the vaccine and boosters. Outside of that, I don't really think the risk level is high enough to care too much but obviously no one wants to get sick so get it if you want.

Regardless, my company forced me, a healthy 25 year old who works out 4+ times a week, to get vaccinated.

 

[TorontoGold]

I never said "at the same rate." You just threw that in there by yourself to justify your own mental gymnastics here. You know that and it's tiresome.

"What we do know now is that getting the vaccine doesn't stop everyone from getting covid or spreading covid (Kevin Durant and Sean Payton now got it twice)" - You wrote that, no? Seems like you're making the argument that a vaccine has no impact on rates? Or are you saying the vaccine does help to limit transmission and your initial post was wrong? Which one is it there buddy.

if you're ashamed of not being able to support your arguments with stats or studies at least pick a lane. Browner levels of misdirection here.

 

[Valpodoc85]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html

scroll down to effectiveness. The vaccines limit spread

 

[ACamp1900]

I’ve stayed out of the shaft measuring contest here but my BiL served with the Marine in this video, stated he’s one of the best men he’s ever served with and my BiL asked me to share it,… the Marine in this video basically ended his career,… two different lieutenant colonels have taken this drastic a measure over this stuff in the last few months. Idk about you but that speaks to me:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tEfNsL...ature=youtu.be

 

[phork]

Ordered Ivermectin from PushHealth today to have around in case anyone in my circle needs it this winter. Easy peezy, no consultations or calls, just an online submission and it's $65. All you have to do is make sure your pharmacy isn't woke and is willing to fill it (both in my radius were).

Stay safe friends. https://www.pushhealth.com/?campaign...4aAihdEALw_wcB

Lol. Wheres the Hydroxycloroquine link? I'd like to double down on stupid please.

 

[Irish#1]

Ordered Ivermectin from PushHealth today to have around in case anyone in my circle needs it this winter. Easy peezy, no consultations or calls, just an online submission and it's $65. All you have to do is make sure your pharmacy isn't woke and is willing to fill it (both in my radius were).

Stay safe friends. https://www.pushhealth.com/?campaign...4aAihdEALw_wcB

Watching relatively healthy people bend their life to worry about COVID constantly is sad. I have 99 problems, or concerns, COVID isn't even on the radar.

1984 is aging like a fine wine.

Seems your contradicting yourself.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Lol. Wheres the Hydroxycloroquine link? I'd like to double down on stupid please.

So you're not aware of how effective hydroxychloroquine turned out to be against COVID are you? Or how many Doctors are quietly recommending it to their patients? Must be easy to just believe what the CDC decides to tell you. Life would be simpler, I'll give you that.

 

[NDdomer2]

wow this guy still trying to change the covid treatments over IE. youre persistent ill give ya that

 

[Irish#1]

So you're not aware of how effective hydroxychloroquine turned out to be against COVID are you? Or how many Doctors are quietly recommending it to their patients? Must be easy to just believe what the CDC decides to tell you. Life would be simpler, I'll give you that.

If doctors are quietly recommending hydroxychloroquine how did you find out? How many doctors are doing this? Asking for a friend.

 

[Irish#1]

wow this guy still trying to change the covid treatments over IE. youre persistent ill give ya that

 

[IrishLax]

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ootball-playoff-semifinal-vs-georgia-bulldogs

 

[irishog77]

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ootball-playoff-semifinal-vs-georgia-bulldogs

You know it's not beyond Hairball to infect the georgia locker room with the 'rona. Then do it a week later to alabama. At the least, dude has probably contemplated it.

 

[phork]

So you're not aware of how effective hydroxychloroquine turned out to be against COVID are you? Or how many Doctors are quietly recommending it to their patients? Must be easy to just believe what the CDC decides to tell you. Life would be simpler, I'll give you that.

No I am not but I can point to dozens of studies that say it doesn't do anything. Actual studies not the drivel you post. Actual studies that you never answer to when I post that information. So as usual, I will ask you to Cite your sources. (Which you never do and just ignore this as you always do.) But I'll be here.

 

[bobbyok1]

Appreciate this UK doctors take on the regular. From what facts he's able to gather he is encouraged by Omicron as a whole. Time will tell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDhIL9o3vHg

"It really is a so far so good situation."

 

[dublinirish]

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[yankeehater]

I really don't understand a lot of people's stances that seem to be vaccine or bust. I would rather adhere to the Dana White strategy and throw the kitchen sink at it than the Billie Eilish strategy as a 19 year old fought the virus for 21 days because she was waiting for her double vax to do its thing.

Toronto, you have even come on here and knocked vitamins. Do you not go to doctors and get blood work done? What do you think some of things they are checking for? The first person who had me take supplements was my general practitioner after my physical showed I had some deficiencies.

I have posted a study about glutathione and its benefits with covid. I could no longer find the Stanford study with both glutathione and NAC, which the friend who turned me onto it, likely saved his diabetic sister's life when she contracted the virus last year. Even though they are all now vaxxed and boosted, they continue to stock these items plus the vitamins and other items several of you have knocked.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7402141/

 

[yankeehater]

I’ve stayed out of the shaft measuring contest here but my BiL served with the Marine in this video, stated he’s one of the best men he’s ever served with and my BiL asked me to share it,… the Marine in this video basically ended his career,… two different lieutenant colonels have taken this drastic a measure over this stuff in the last few months. Idk about you but that speaks to me:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tEfNsL...ature=youtu.be

Thank you for sharing. You probably know way more about the situation, but I did read criminal charges may be filed because they have proof the cases were all rubber stamped and not looked at on an individual basis as required by law.

 

[dankgesang]

I really don't understand a lot of people's stances that seem to be vaccine or bust. I would rather adhere to the Dana White strategy and throw the kitchen sink at it than the Billie Eilish strategy as a 19 year old fought the virus for 21 days because she was waiting for her double vax to do its thing.

Toronto, you have even come on here and knocked vitamins. Do you not go to doctors and get blood work done? What do you think some of things they are checking for? The first person who had me take supplements was my general practitioner after my physical showed I had some deficiencies.

I have posted a study about glutathione and its benefits with covid. I could no longer find the Stanford study with both glutathione and NAC, which the friend who turned me onto it, likely saved his diabetic sister's life when she contracted the virus last year. Even though they are all now vaxxed and boosted, they continue to stock these items plus the vitamins and other items several of you have knocked.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7402141/

 

[IrishLax]

I'm curious for the anti-vaxx crowd here if you have different feelings about:
1) The VLA2001 vaccine that has the deactivated whole virus in it
2) The broad spectrum vaccine that was announced today from researchers at Walter Reed that is effective against all COVID and SARS variants, and was developed over a period of years (starting under the Trump administration) by the US Government and has no ties to big pharma

 

[PerthDomer]

I’ve stayed out of the shaft measuring contest here but my BiL served with the Marine in this video, stated he’s one of the best men he’s ever served with and my BiL asked me to share it,… the Marine in this video basically ended his career,… two different lieutenant colonels have taken this drastic a measure over this stuff in the last few months. Idk about you but that speaks to me:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tEfNsL...ature=youtu.be

I'm a military doc. The vaccination rates approach 98%. The venn diagram between the still unvaccinated and Qanon/3%/Jan 6 crowd has a lot of overlap. Addition by subtraction.

These people all have taken every childhood shot and some random ones you only take to go into combat zones. Smallpox has a known side effect (cardiac) far and above what you see in COVID. So as they say, suck it up buttercup.

 

[Blazers46]

I'm curious for the anti-vaxx crowd here if you have different feelings about:
1) The VLA2001 vaccine that has the deactivated whole virus in it
2) The broad spectrum vaccine that was announced today from researchers at Walter Reed that is effective against all COVID and SARS variants, and was developed over a period of years (starting under the Trump administration) by the US Government and has no ties to big pharma

I guess we have to ask and answer the question what you consider the "anti-vax crowd". I am continually lumped into the anti-vax crowd. I am anti mandate. I am not covid vaccinated at age 37 and probably top 10 percent health and fitness in my age group. Am I considered anti-vax? But I have zero problem with my 67 year old parents getting vaccinated.

 

[phork]

I really don't understand a lot of people's stances that seem to be vaccine or bust. I would rather adhere to the Dana White strategy and throw the kitchen sink at it than the Billie Eilish strategy as a 19 year old fought the virus for 21 days because she was waiting for her double vax to do its thing.

Toronto, you have even come on here and knocked vitamins. Do you not go to doctors and get blood work done? What do you think some of things they are checking for? The first person who had me take supplements was my general practitioner after my physical showed I had some deficiencies.

I have posted a study about glutathione and its benefits with covid. I could no longer find the Stanford study with both glutathione and NAC, which the friend who turned me onto it, likely saved his diabetic sister's life when she contracted the virus last year. Even though they are all now vaxxed and boosted, they continue to stock these items plus the vitamins and other items several of you have knocked.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7402141/

Because Science. Science has developed these vaccines specifically to combat the virus. Because Science. Science has disproven time and again that Ivermectin and Hyroxychloroquine don't work against the virus. Because Science. Science keeps throwing the kitchen sink at it to discover new therapies and vaccines and treatments that do work. Science now has a 2 pills to fight covid, that are not rebranded ivermectin. Science will continue to prove or disprove things that work or don't work. That it was science does.

Vitamins and sunshine won't save you if you get seriously ill from covid. Vitamins and sunshine are vital to keeping you healthly regularly. Your "natural immunity" won't save you either, as science has shown those with vaccines and boosters boast higher anti-bodies than people who actually get covid. I'll refere you to the 56 year old in Texas who died recently.

 

[TorontoGold]

I really don't understand a lot of people's stances that seem to be vaccine or bust. I would rather adhere to the Dana White strategy and throw the kitchen sink at it than the Billie Eilish strategy as a 19 year old fought the virus for 21 days because she was waiting for her double vax to do its thing.

Toronto, you have even come on here and knocked vitamins. Do you not go to doctors and get blood work done? What do you think some of things they are checking for? The first person who had me take supplements was my general practitioner after my physical showed I had some deficiencies.

I have posted a study about glutathione and its benefits with covid. I could no longer find the Stanford study with both glutathione and NAC, which the friend who turned me onto it, likely saved his diabetic sister's life when she contracted the virus last year. Even though they are all now vaxxed and boosted, they continue to stock these items plus the vitamins and other items several of you have knocked.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7402141/

I take a couple vitamins daily, and make a green smoothie in the morning most days. I do that to maintain general health.

Not sure I knocked actual vitamins, but it was likely more that I don't believe in taking a whole bunch of different things to maybe work somewhat close to what has been a documented monumental success in the vaccines. This is like saying "AH so you don't like drinking water?! I drink it everyday and my doctor tells me to drink it" when someone is receiving IV treatment for dehydration. There are better treatments, while vitamins are important, I'm not risking my health for taking things that haven't been proven to be anywhere near the level of success that vaccines have been.

 

[NDPhilly]

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ootball-playoff-semifinal-vs-georgia-bulldogs

Know 6 people who got boosted in the last month who tested positive for Omicron in the last 10 days. One who had previously been infected. Tough to believe this will do anything.

 

[Blazers46]

Know 6 people who got boosted in the last month who tested positive for Omicron in the last 10 days. One who had previously been infected. Tough to believe this will do anything.

My 67 year old Dad was vaxed and boosted. Down for two weeks. Was then admitted into a psych hospital for what was described as "Covid Induced Psychosis".

 

[Wild Bill]

I'm curious for the anti-vaxx crowd here if you have different feelings about:
1) The VLA2001 vaccine that has the deactivated whole virus in it
2) The broad spectrum vaccine that was announced today from researchers at Walter Reed that is effective against all COVID and SARS variants, and was developed over a period of years (starting under the Trump administration) by the US Government and has no ties to big pharma

No. Just never taking it bc I'm healthy, in my 30s, have had it, understand potential consequences both with health and losing my job and I just don't care.

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm not getting boosted. Putting 3-4 shots in a person in a 12 month period? Where does it end? Plus my wife has had health issues since she got boosted, including the return of her ITP which had been in remission since she was a child. No thanks.

With the FDA just approving the new Pfizer anti-viral medication for COVID today I'll go with that if I wind up with a breakthrough case at this point. It's supposed to get rolled out for distribution after the new year and it's approved for 12 and up. I would rather go with the short term medication than deal with potentially long term effects from additional boosters.

 

[Irish#1]

My 67 year old Dad was vaxed and boosted. Down for two weeks. Was then admitted into a psych hospital for what was described as "Covid Induced Psychosis".

Prayers to you that this is just a temporary thing.