2022 - State of the Recruiting Class thread

[Chicago Domer]

Would someone be willing to match numbers and or location in picture with their names.

 

[IrishLax]

Thoughts / comments on that picture?

I'll start:

How short is Gobiara or does he simply have horrendous posture?

When you come up with Gobiara's height, subtract 2" for Ford...

Who's next?

I’m curious how tall people actually think he is. I saw him at a lacrosse prospect day after his freshman year and he was not 6’6”. Was surprised to see that’s what he was listed at on 247.

 

[Trait Expectations]

Burnham and Jr. look like monsters.

Raridon is tall!

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Is Kiuanta Goodwin 7 feet tall?

No shit man. I thought the same thing. Kid must be 6’9” 390

 

[NDdomer2]

So all thoughts on hinnish #2 being small = confirmed and some

 

[Luckylucci]

Burnham and Jr. look like monsters.

Raridon is tall!

Yea, those are some dudes. Both seem like they should be able to physically compete right away.

If Freeman keeps the 4 down base and not subbing when he moves to 3, I think Burnham would be a great Vyper to Will. He’s got legit height/length. And he’s obviously very comfortable playing off ball.

 

[Luckylucci]

Is Kiuanta Goodwin 7 feet tall?

Seriously, it’s like I’m looking at two different people. He looks like a future 1st LT in this one. In the other Goodwin made him look like his younger brother.

 

[Luckylucci]

Thoughts / comments on that picture?

I'll start:

How short is Gobiara or does he simply have horrendous posture?

When you come up with Gobiara's height, subtract 2" for Ford...

Who's next?

I got nothing else to do. I don’t know how tall we think Freeman is but he’s at least 6-6’1, right?

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Ford looks 6’3+ here. Certainly not the 6’6 that’s been listed before but also not in the Justin Ademilola sub 6’2 area (Completely OT, anyone ever watch Justin and think if he was 6’3+ he’s a sure fire NFL draft pick? I know I do.)

 

[calvegas04]

I got nothing else to do. I don’t know how tall we think Freeman is but he’s at least 6-6’1, right?

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Ford looks 6’3+ here. Certainly not the 6’6 that’s been listed before but also not in the Justin Ademilola sub 6’2 area (Completely OT, anyone ever watch Justin and think if he was 6’3+ he’s a sure fire NFL draft pick? I know I do.)

Freeman was listed at 6'2 on Rivals, I could see Ford being 6'5 or 6'6

 

[BrownerandFry]

Next month, four linebackers arrive
Mr. Football in South Carolina, Jaylen Sneed
Gatorade player of the year in Michigan, Josh Burnham
the other two are not gimmees
Jr. Tuihalamaka
Nolan Ziegler

They are interested in more than "adjusting to campus, class and Balis"

A year from next month
the Gatorade Player of the year in Indiana, Dray Bowen will arrive

Not a Joe Schmidt or an Abdel Banda in the bunch.

Big boy football.

 

[stpeteirish]

McFerson CJ Williams
Amorion Walker
Jalyen Sneed

one more didn't make it in as there are 18 in the picture and we have 23 commits. Is it Morrison?

And he's in the "not to worry" category, isn't he?

 

[BrownerandFry]

one more didn't make it in as there are 18 in the picture and we have 23 commits. Is it Morrison?

And he's in the "not to worry" category, isn't he?

Schrauth

 

[NDdomer2]

NFL had Freeman at 6'1

 

[BobbyMac]

Next month, four linebackers arrive
Mr. Football in South Carolina, Jaylen Sneed
Gatorade player of the year in Michigan, Josh Burnham
the other two are not gimmees
Jr. Tuihalamaka
Nolan Ziegler

They are interested in more than "adjusting to campus, class and Balis"

A year from next month
the Gatorade Player of the year in Indiana, Dray Bowen will arrive

Not a Joe Schmidt or an Abdel Banda in the bunch.

Big boy football.

But Bowen does wear #34 @ Andrean. Josh Barajas wore #44 at 5959 Broadway.

Too close for comfort.

 

[BobbyMac]

NFL had Freeman at 6'1

So 5-11 3/4 in cleats? Oops, I mean Keds?

Amirite?

 

[BrownerandFry]

But Bowen does wear #34 @ Andrean. Josh Barajas wore #44 at 5959 Broadway.

Too close for comfort.

Harrumph!

CNT

Critical Number Theory

And there are ONLY three numbers that should be taught in the Region, after of course
A, B, C
1, 2, 3

23, 32, 43

Trgovich
Bridgeman
Stoddard

Further it is clear that Jordan chose #23 because of Pete.

In terms of miscarriages of justice here is the question.

What is the meaning of Mike Flynn being selected as Mr. Basketball in '71 over Trgovich?

(a) Well, Mike was just better
(b) Viurulent Southern Indiana anticroatian and antiserbian bias
(c) Hoosier hatred of Da Region
(d) Adolph Rupp worship in Indiana, even over the greatest Artesian of them all, John Wooden

I believe, Bobby Mac, retired Crusader, that you alone will understand this message.

Good, let the rest grovel in their ignorance of the real meaning of Hoosier Hysteria.

Phillistines, invading this inner sanctum................

 

[NDdomer2]

So 5-11 3/4 in cleats? Oops, I mean Keds?

Amirite?

I suppose you can expect some height shrinkage to go along with his head shrinkage.

 

[rtrn2glory]

So looks like the main drama heading into Wednesday is if CJ and AW will stick with their commitments and sign?

 

[NDMIA]

CJ Williams, Amorion Walker, and Devin Moore. Idk who they get out of those 3. I think they could very well lose all 3 or get all 3 or any iteration between! Keeps it exciting for signing day!

 

[stpeteirish]

Moore would be a major surprise at this point. The other two are complete crapshoots

 

[Crazy Balki]

CJ Williams, Amorion Walker, and Devin Moore. Idk who they get out of those 3. I think they could very well lose all 3 or get all 3 or any iteration between! Keeps it exciting for signing day!

"Exciting" definitely isn't the word I'd use. This is absolutely nerve wracking and I despise it.

If these guys were luxury pickups, then I'd agree with it being exciting.

But this is a situation where if 1 of CJ and Walker or both, don't sign with us, it could prove catastrophic for this class, because we desperately need receivers. Taking a 2 man receiver class, or even potentially a 1 receiver class, is unacceptable with how few guys we have on roster currently.

They aren't luxury picks. These are make or break signings that can drastically change the way this class is viewed.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

"Exciting" definitely isn't the word I'd use. This is absolutely nerve wracking and I despise it.

If these guys were luxury pickups, then I'd agree with it being exciting.

But this is a situation where if 1 of CJ and Walker or both, don't sign with us, it could prove catastrophic for this class, because we desperately need receivers. Taking a 2 man receiver class, or even potentially a 1 receiver class, is unacceptable with how few guys we have on roster currently.

They aren't luxury picks. These are make or break signings that can drastically change the way this class is viewed.

You love superlatives. Just enjoy it man. A lot of good energy in the program right now.

 

[calvegas04]

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[Whiskeyjack]

These are make or break signings that can drastically change the way this class is viewed.

Even if all three sign with us, the odds that they all finish their careers here is pretty low. Kids that get cold-feet due to anticipated homesickness or that really milk the recruiting process while "committed" to us tend not to pan out in South Bend.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Even if all three sign with us, the odds that they all finish their careers here is pretty low. Kids that get cold-feet due to anticipated homesickness or that really milk the recruiting process while "committed" to us tend not to pan out in South Bend.

I disagree. Walker particularly doesn't appear to be that hesitant to leave the south, considering our biggest competition here is Michigan.

I can't really think of many situations where kids didn't finish their careers out at ND simply because they were homesick or got cold feet. Braden Lenzy is a pretty stark example of the opposite. He had every excuse to move on, but didn't. Dude decommitted and then recommitted to us, and hasn't been able to see the field much up until just now, 4 years in.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Even if all three sign with us, the odds that they all finish their careers here is pretty low. Kids that get cold-feet due to anticipated homesickness or that really milk the recruiting process while "committed" to us tend not to pan out in South Bend.

Terry Jillery is one success that comes to mind, I am sure there are some more.

I think it goes back to why are they wavering. If it's truly homesickness fear, I personally think if a team has a good bonding culture, it can be resolved. That's one of the advantages of ND. Most of the guys on the roster don't have the luxury of getting in a car, driving home to see the parents for dinner and make it back to class the next morning. That forces many of these guys to bond and be much closer as a result, assuming they want it. For the guys that don't buy in, I assume it can be quite isolating and will lead to transfers. But I don't get that vibe from ND players too often.

 

[Irish#1]

How is Ashton Craig on his tippy toes and still 2" shorter than Joey Tanona?

Oh... Tanona's doing it too, as is Staes.

I see you have some free time on your hands.

 

[Luckylucci]

Even if all three sign with us, the odds that they all finish their careers here is pretty low. Kids that get cold-feet due to anticipated homesickness or that really milk the recruiting process while "committed" to us tend not to pan out in South Bend.

Which is why it’s really disappointing that there have been no solid backup plans put in place. We should’ve been recruiting guys for these spots for months. Always should be recruiting backup plans.

But, maybe they are and we just don’t know it. That just seems doubtful.

 

[SBirishlawyer]

Especially when the position was so lean on numbers that a class of 4 or even 5 was always a decent idea

 

[Irish#1]

Terry Jillery is one success that comes to mind, I am sure there are some more.

I think it goes back to why are they wavering. If it's truly homesickness fear, I personally think if a team has a good bonding culture, it can be resolved. That's one of the advantages of ND. Most of the guys on the roster don't have the luxury of getting in a car, driving home to see the parents for dinner and make it back to class the next morning. That forces many of these guys to bond and be much closer as a result, assuming they want it. For the guys that don't buy in, I assume it can be quite isolating and will lead to transfers. But I don't get that vibe from ND players too often.

Tillery never wavered. He made a lot of trips to LSU but he was tagging along with friends most of the time.