Nov 27 | Stanford

Pops Freshenmeyer

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Would a Notre Dame victory end Shaw's reign at Stanford?

Even if they beat Cal and lose to ND, they will have three consecutive 4 win seasons. Quite the fall from how their program under Shaw from 2011 to 2018.

Are they happy sticking with Shaw? I know it's challenging for Stanford to recruit, probably more than it is for ND due to their admission requirements, but it's not really a valid excuse to use because Stanford had been a dominant program for nearly a decade. And they have had good recruiting classes, usually ranked in the Top 25.

Are they sticking with Shaw because it's simply a hard job to find a replacement? Could be.

Stanford has tightened up a lot of things that the football team used to use to help the roster. Most notably the school has done away with automatically granting guys a 5th year and requires them to graduate and get admitted to graduate programs (like ND used to do but doesn't anymore). I think Shaw's exorbitant salary is to keep him from leaving while the school tightens up the academic side to the detriment of big time football.
 

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Stanford has tightened up a lot of things that the football team used to use to help the roster. Most notably the school has done away with automatically granting guys a 5th year and requires them to graduate and get admitted to graduate programs (like ND used to do but doesn't anymore). I think Shaw's exorbitant salary is to keep him from leaving while the school tightens up the academic side to the detriment of big time football.

Also Bud Elliott on the Cover 3 podcast talks about something all the time: the early signing period has killed Stanford. Shaw fought it when it was being proposed and lost. They can't admit kids that early, so they end up missing on a ton of kids. Ever since that rule was implemented their recruiting has been garbage.
 

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So that would be 12 30PM...Pacific time?

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Yeah, it'll either be a 3:30-4 ET (so 12:30-1 PT) kickoff or a 7:30-8 ET (4:30-5 PT) kickoff.

DEFINITELY prefer the latter, because that's better for tailgating. I'd rather enjoy the noon and 3:30 games all leading up to kickoff, rather than having to stuff my tailgating in the morning and then hoof over to the stadium by 12:30-1.

Just based on history and where the schedule is lining up for that Saturday, I'm thinking this will be an evening kickoff.
 

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Looks like Pac-12 is exercising their 6 day hold, so we'll find out later this week when the game time is.

According to Matt at ISD, it'll either be 3:30 or 8 ET.

Again, REALLY hope it is 8 and not 3:30, because that cuts away a lot of tailgating. Having to wrap things up just around noon is no bueno.
 

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Stanford has tightened up a lot of things that the football team used to use to help the roster. Most notably the school has done away with automatically granting guys a 5th year and requires them to graduate and get admitted to graduate programs (like ND used to do but doesn't anymore). I think Shaw's exorbitant salary is to keep him from leaving while the school tightens up the academic side to the detriment of big time football.

Wait, when did ND get rid of having to be a grad student?
 

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I don't know but last year Ian Book was just taking a partial course load in Irish Studies undergrad courses after getting his degree in marketing.

And there was an interview with Hinish today, same thing. He took one class this spring, an acting class.
 

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Could be worse. At least they weren't taking ball room dancing.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2143657

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I remember when Game Day was on campus for the '05 game someone had a big Leinart puppet on a pole with a tutu on or something. It was gold, there used to be an image online, can't find it anymore.
 

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I don't know but last year Ian Book was just taking a partial course load in Irish Studies undergrad courses after getting his degree in marketing.

Really interesting, because they were both listed as graduate students and I didn’t know this. I wonder what the actual restrictions are now on 5th years and if COVID had an impact on the rules.
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1462261538786578439?s=20[/TWEET]
 

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I'm definitely leaning towards this being a night game now.

Oregon's out of the playoff picture, so nobody outside of the state of Oregon is gonna care about Oregon-Oregon State.

At the very least, ND is gonna draw the national fanbase in primetime.

Good. I want a legitimate tailgate experience with a 90% ND crowd.
 

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Stanford's defense:

94th in points allowed per game (30.3)

127th in rushing yards allowed per game (230.7)

Williams and Diggs are gonna eat.


To be fair, their pass defense is in the Top 25, but it seems most teams just don't throw that much against them.


Offensively, they rank 119th in YPG, are below average in passing yards per game, and are 124th in rushing yards per game. They give up a lot of sacks too, similarily to ND's numbers.
 

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Cal went into this game ranked 81st in total offense, averaging 373 yards. They gained 636 in this game.

Cal was ranked 112th in scoring, averaging just 20.5 points. They doubled that in this game with 41.

Cal went from averaging 4.4 yards per carry and being ranked 57th in yards per rush to averaging 5.1 yards per carry and being ranked 21st after ONE GAME.

As bad as Tech is, and they are, Stanford might be even worse. This game shouldn't be even remotely close after 1 quarter.
 

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With the top ten chaos and either OSU or UM losing next week, gotta think ND will go into this with every intention to paste 'em. ND should be no worse than 5 this time next week, and UGA vs Bama will add another victim.
 

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Stanford, thank you for beating Oregon and USC, but it’s good to see you back where you belong in college football.
 

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Cal went into this game ranked 81st in total offense, averaging 373 yards. They gained 636 in this game.

Cal was ranked 112th in scoring, averaging just 20.5 points. They doubled that in this game with 41.

Cal went from averaging 4.4 yards per carry and being ranked 57th in yards per rush to averaging 5.1 yards per carry and being ranked 21st after ONE GAME.

As bad as Tech is, and they are, Stanford might be even worse. This game shouldn't be even remotely close after 1 quarter.

Bramblett can probably stay back in SB if he wants. Watch the game from Between the Buns or something over one of those big blue drinks.
 
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