2022 Master List

[BobbyMac]

there was a RB out of texas once that im not sure was given the OK from coaches, and eventually signed with Texas State I believe.

Yep. He came up in that conversation too... Jamel James. Here's a story on his "de-commitment" that is a real time capsule piece.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-notre-dame-where-do-fighting-irish-turn-next

 

[Luckylucci]

Looks like we don't have a profile for Xayvion Bradshaw but we should. Dude is a dynamite playmaker. Here is a clip from his first game of the Spring season.

(1) Xayvion Bradshaw on Twitter: "lil’ clip from today’s first home game !! ⭐️ https://t.co/AS9eL6hhH0" / Twitter

 

[Luckylucci]

For a little guys he goes up and gets this one.

(1) Xayvion Bradshaw on Twitter: "lil sumn from dis weekends 7v7 ‼️ #LLT https://t.co/gy6wTIZBlZ" / Twitter

 

[dublinirish]

For a little guys he goes up and gets this one.

(1) Xayvion Bradshaw on Twitter: "lil sumn from dis weekends 7v7 ‼️ #LLT https://t.co/gy6wTIZBlZ" / Twitter

Yeah Freeman mentioned him on ISD podcast on Monday, Sone of former NY Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw, extremely fast but raw

 

[dublinirish]

https://247sports.com/Article/NFA-7v...lla-161244648/







Matthais Farley vibes off this kid, thought he sounded interesting

Committed to UCF as a QB, a lot of schools like FSU wanted him at RB, slot etc

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMcW3ZPs...on_share_sheet

 

[BeauBenken]

Just jumped up to the #2 class in the country behind just Ohio State with the commitment of Joshua Burnham.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yes sir!

Now it's a little misleading as its partially due to how many commits we have but this class has the potential to be a really really good one. I think it'll ultimately come down to how well they do at WR and DB.

 

[Trait Expectations]

I've been following recruiting since the Te'o class and this certainly feels like the most early momentum I've experienced. Marcus Freeman is showing the administration why they need to pay for high quality, qualified candidates. It really feels like ND is still ascending.

 

[BeauBenken]

Re offered?

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JaydenWayne8/status/1372304123878465538?s=20[/TWEET]

Wrong list. He's a 2023 kid.

 

[stpeteirish]

Yes sir!

Now it's a little misleading as its partially due to how many commits we have but this class has the potential to be a really really good one. I think it'll ultimately come down to how well they do at WR and DB.

Its very misleading we are around 12th in avg per player ranking and when every one else fills up we'll get passed by those that have a higher avg unless we have a bigger class than they do. Don't see that happening, We almost always have smaller classes and we had a big class last year.

Still a good year but 10-12 is where we usually end up. This year is just more front loaded than usual

 

[Luckylucci]

Its very misleading we are around 12th in avg per player ranking and when every one else fills up we'll get passed by those that have a higher avg unless we have a bigger class than they do. Don't see that happening, We almost always have smaller classes and we had a big class last year.

Still a good year but 10-12 is where we usually end up. This year is just more front loaded than usual

Well, there is still a lot to play out so it very well could end up as you state but... You have to keep in mind that ND still has a lot of guys on the board that could push that avg player rating even higher.

All of Hayden, Singleton, Williams, Morris, Merriweather, Saunders, Greene Jr, Staes, Schrauth, Wagner, Taylor, Hinzman, Wesolak, Cooper, Lucas, Junior, Tafiti, Jackson, Brown, Rogers, Nelson Jr., Gould, Brooks, Martinez, and Covil are all rated higher than our avg player rating at this time.

 

[Fbolt]

Looking forward for the offense, outside of RB coach Taylor, starts to GAF about chasing good players. Taylor, Freeman, and Elko showing them how it can be done.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Looking forward for the offense, outside of RB coach Taylor, starts to GAF about chasing good players. Taylor, Freeman, and Elko showing them how it can be done.

I don't think TE nor OL recruiting is an issue and if WR delivers a class like last year, that would be great. Honestly, I think the only thing that has truly been disappointing is Tommy.

 

[greyhammer90]

I don't think TE nor OL recruiting is an issue and if WR delivers a class like last year, that would be great. Honestly, I think the only thing that has truly been disappointing is Tommy.

Which is funny because in his first year he got the top target that we were all asking for.

 

[NDMIA]

RB recruiting consists of 4* Kyren Williams, 4* Chris Tyree, 4* Audric Estime, 3* Logan Diggs, and 4* Jadarian Price in the last 4 cycles. The possibility is they could add another 4* back of maybe Singleton, Sawchuk, Hayden or another. That’s as good as it gets. Okay, maybe it’s not 5* RBU like Bama but that’s playoff level competing in recruiting for RB talent from a stats perspective. WR recruiting has consisted of 5 of the last 6 WR’s being 4* or 5* recruits before the 2022 cycle. We’ll see what Del can do with this class because he’s after a lot of 4* rated dudes again. OL has had 7 out of the last 9 being 4* recruits with Quinn bringing in potentially a couple more 4*’s into this current class. To me TE recruiting and QB recruiting has been interesting. QB they got the 4th out of 4 offers and did a weird job in evaluating the talent and getting it committed. TE has been weird since Mayer committed. A 3* run of Berrong, Nickel, and Evans is not good enough for the supposed Tight End U. They should be choosing who they want as opposed to asking for certain guys!

 

[Ndaccountant]

Which is funny because in his first year he got the top target that we were all asking for.

Exactly. He got his target, go him early and then ??????. Seems strang.e

 

[Ndaccountant]

RB recruiting consists of 4* Kyren Williams, 4* Chris Tyree, 4* Audric Estime, 3* Logan Diggs, and 4* Jadarian Price in the last 4 cycles. The possibility is they could add another 4* back of maybe Singleton, Sawchuk, Hayden or another. That’s as good as it gets. Okay, maybe it’s not 5* RBU like Bama but that’s playoff level competing in recruiting for RB talent from a stats perspective. WR recruiting has consisted of 5 of the last 6 WR’s being 4* or 5* recruits before the 2022 cycle. We’ll see what Del can do with this class because he’s after a lot of 4* rated dudes again. OL has had 7 out of the last 9 being 4* recruits with Quinn bringing in potentially a couple more 4*’s into this current class. To me TE recruiting and QB recruiting has been interesting. QB they got the 4th out of 4 offers and did a weird job in evaluating the talent and getting it committed. TE has been weird since Mayer committed. A 3* run of Berrong, Nickel, and Evans is not good enough for the supposed Tight End U. They should be choosing who they want as opposed to asking for certain guys!

Cane ended up at #9 on the composite last cycle for TE's, correct? Appears Evans is more of OL than true TE, as some suspected. If they end up Staes, that is three cycles with top 10 composite players at the position. I think that is pretty strong. Nickel's ranking is an outlier, but how much of that is his early commitment? He has offers from FSU, LSU, Oregon, Iowa, Penn State, VT & Wisconsin. I don't think he is Mayer, but I don't see why he can't be Durham Smythe.

 

[Luckylucci]

Looking forward for the offense, outside of RB coach Taylor, starts to GAF about chasing good players. Taylor, Freeman, and Elko showing them how it can be done.

I see this a lot and it’s very shortsighted. We signed 5 guys last cycle, on offense, that had fairly equal or better ratings than Burnham. We’re going to sign another really good OL. We’ll get a 4 star TE in Staes. We already have one 4 star RB and will probably land another. WR is the only position group that has question marks on offense so there is really no issue of systemic problems with offensive recruiting like people like to believe.

 

[Trait Expectations]

I see this a lot and it’s very shortsighted. We signed 5 guys last cycle, on offense, that had fairly equal or better ratings than Burnham. We’re going to sign another really good OL. We’ll get a 4 star TE in Staes. We already have one 4 star RB and will probably land another. WR is the only position group that has question marks on offense so there is really no issue of systemic problems with offensive recruiting like people like to believe.

It all depends on what people are using as the measuring stick, right? If they are using Ohio State, Alabama and Clemson as the measuring stick, then we still have some work to do match the # of explosive players they sign every year. We are definitely on the upswing which is exciting, hopefully our classes start to continuously land inside the top 10 and closer to the top 5. The staff has proven they can win with top-15 classes but the talent delta between top 15 and top 5 is huge and I believe our coaches can go much further with that kind of talent on campus.

 

[fightingirish26]

Cane ended up at #9 on the composite last cycle for TE's, correct? Appears Evans is more of OL than true TE, as some suspected. If they end up Staes, that is three cycles with top 10 composite players at the position. I think that is pretty strong. Nickel's ranking is an outlier, but how much of that is his early commitment? He has offers from FSU, LSU, Oregon, Iowa, Penn State, VT & Wisconsin. I don't think he is Mayer, but I don't see why he can't be Durham Smythe.

FWIW when you look at Cane's ratings, 247 has him as the #31 TE, Rivals the #35 TE, and ESPN the #1 TE. Most seem to agree that ESPN's ratings are worth very little compared to those other services. Nothing against Cane but just putting that out there.

Also, I can't find it now but I'm pretty sure Evans is wearing a number in the 80's for this spring. That contradicts some reports which said he was starting at OL. Also, Loy recently said ND might be looking at taking 5 OL this cycle. They took 5 last cycle, 6 if you include Evans. Ten in two classes is a lot, let alone eleven. I think Evans has star potential at TE, I hope they at least give him a shot.

But, if reports are true and Evans is actually an OL, I think Berrong/Nickel/Staes is subpar for Notre Dame TE recruiting. Not a disaster, but that is a position we should recruit better than anyone else in the country, and those guys just amount to pretty good, recruiting wise.

 

[BobbyMac]

But, if reports are true and Evans is actually an OL, I think Berrong/Nickel/Staes is subpar for Notre Dame TE recruiting. Not a disaster, but that is a position we should recruit better than anyone else in the country, and those guys just amount to pretty good, recruiting wise.

I wouldn't trade Mayer, Bauman, Berrong, Evans, Nickel, Staes for any teams TE room in the country. Adding Raridon makes it even better.

Mayer's Mayer. I see Bauman and Berrong being elite at ND. Evans is a wildcard. Might be as good as Bauman, might be Takacs. Nickel will play, maybe he's a glue guy that does all the dirty work like Brock Wright ended up doing? Staes will be a factor in the pass game... he looks like he has "it". Raridon if he comes, is a longer, (more athletic?) version of Mayer who won't be as skilled as Mayer the player but has as much long term ceiling if he has what it takes between the ears.

What could they have done better?

1. Land Fidone or Ferguson in '21 as an Eifert TE. Not sure if that's even a TE issue or belongs in a WR thread.

2. Skip the ceiling move on Evans and go after a guaranteed TE like Aaron Steinfeldt who will kill it at IU. Maybe Jack Pugh out of Ohio who went to Iowa or Wisconsin?

3. If Jameson Geers doesn't tear up his knee his Jr. year, good chance he's at ND with Berrong. He starts his Sr. season tomorrow in IL and has a showdown with Kaleb Brown in 2 weeks.

4. There is of course the 2019 cycle where they ended up not taking anyone but it was sandwiched in between Treble/Takacs and Mayer/Bauman so did it hurt? All I can think of that year is Freiermuth was Irish if offered on time but they waited 6 months after he committed to PSU and couldn't flip him. I also wanted Sam LaPorta who ended up sneaking into Iowa.

 

[irishandy]

I see Bauman and Berrong being be elite at ND. Evans is a wildcard.

I can't wait until Bauman sees the field, I would hate to be the opposing DC having to defend Bauman and Mayer at the same time . Do you see him taking Tremble's spot this year?

 

[BobbyMac]

I can't wait until Bauman sees the field, I would hate to be the opposing DC having to defend Bauman and Mayer at the same time . Do you see him taking Tremble's spot this year?

I don't know if I'd call it Tremble's spot but It's gonna be a lot of Mayer, Takacs, Bauman this year.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

FWIW when you look at Cane's ratings, 247 has him as the #31 TE, Rivals the #35 TE, and ESPN the #1 TE. Most seem to agree that ESPN's ratings are worth very little compared to those other services. Nothing against Cane but just putting that out there.

Also, I can't find it now but I'm pretty sure Evans is wearing a number in the 80's for this spring. That contradicts some reports which said he was starting at OL. Also, Loy recently said ND might be looking at taking 5 OL this cycle. They took 5 last cycle, 6 if you include Evans. Ten in two classes is a lot, let alone eleven. I think Evans has star potential at TE, I hope they at least give him a shot.

But, if reports are true and Evans is actually an OL, I think Berrong/Nickel/Staes is subpar for Notre Dame TE recruiting. Not a disaster, but that is a position we should recruit better than anyone else in the country, and those guys just amount to pretty good, recruiting wise.

Correct me (anybody) if I'm wrong, but wasn't Berrong a very highly rated TE (originally) that services dropped because he wouldn't go do camps?

 

[rtrn2glory]

FWIW when you look at Cane's ratings, 247 has him as the #31 TE, Rivals the #35 TE, and ESPN the #1 TE. Most seem to agree that ESPN's ratings are worth very little compared to those other services. Nothing against Cane but just putting that out there.

Also, I can't find it now but I'm pretty sure Evans is wearing a number in the 80's for this spring. That contradicts some reports which said he was starting at OL. Also, Loy recently said ND might be looking at taking 5 OL this cycle. They took 5 last cycle, 6 if you include Evans. Ten in two classes is a lot, let alone eleven. I think Evans has star potential at TE, I hope they at least give him a shot.

But, if reports are true and Evans is actually an OL, I think Berrong/Nickel/Staes is subpar for Notre Dame TE recruiting. Not a disaster, but that is a position we should recruit better than anyone else in the country, and those guys just amount to pretty good, recruiting wise.

I listened to a podcast a few weeks back, but don't remember from whom...They way they talked the staff has already started to recruit basically counting on attrition from transfers and injuries. This is relatively recent because now they don't feel like their depth is where they want it to be so to be safe, they're planning on loading up on O line talent with the anticipation that they won't all be here for 4 years. Made sense I wish I could find it and post the content it was good.

 

[BobbyMac]

Correct me (anybody) if I'm wrong, but wasn't Berrong a very highly rated TE (originally) that services dropped because he wouldn't go do camps?

He started off the #1 TE in the class on 247 or 247 Comp or Rivals,,, (One or two of them)

 

[BeauBenken]

Correct me (anybody) if I'm wrong, but wasn't Berrong a very highly rated TE (originally) that services dropped because he wouldn't go do camps?

Started out as the #1 rated TE, didn't camp, so yes, his rankings dropped.

 

[Luckylucci]

Cane is going to be an interesting guy to track. He doesn’t have ideal length but he sure moves well and I know he places a lot of emphasis on his route running. His dad is over at 247 and it sounds like he’s a hard working young man. Looking forward to seeing how he matches up at this level.

 

[BabyIrish]

Correct me (anybody) if I'm wrong, but wasn't Berrong a very highly rated TE (originally) that services dropped because he wouldn't go do camps?

This, while rankings are helpful, they are not the end all be all and politics is highly involved

 

[Luckylucci]

Some notable '22 and '23 prospects in here.

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