2022 Master List

[dublinirish]

Coach | 2022 Notre Dame RB Target Jordan James "A Complete Back"

commited to UGA

 

[Luckylucci]

So, this guy is what most would say is next in line at DE if we expand the board. It also sounds like the staff is starting to warm up to him more and more.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Rivals_Singer/status/1376564032291794952[/TWEET]

 

[Luckylucci]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Rivals_Singer/status/1376208737216696323[/TWEET]

 

[dublinirish]

Katin Houser - NV - 6-1/175 - Liberty - Interest in ND - Taking over at St John Bosco (CA)

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/katinhouser/status/1377807315613712388?s=20[/TWEET]

St John Bosco's Starting QB, chose BSU over Colorado and Arizona

 

[Dale]

ESPN finally got around to some rankings:

https://247sports.com/Article/ESPN-...-of-2020-Fighting-Irish-Recruiting-163870687/

Angeli: #129
Tanona: #141
Ford: #153
Burnham: #167
Chan: #212
Price: #213
Mickey: #264

Not in Top 300:
Ziegler, Nickel, Gobaira, Walker, (Agu)

 

[Dale]

I’d suggest DL wise, it seems this is the plan moving forward:

DE: Ford, Gobaira, Agu
DT: Hinish

There is Ernest Cooper seems to be in play but I don’t know if he’s take no matter what like Lucas and Moss. Doesn’t sound like much of a “board” besides that at this point.

 

[NDIrish88]

I’d suggest DL wise, it seems this is the plan moving forward:

DE: Ford, Gobaira, Agu
DT: Hinish

There is Ernest Cooper seems to be in play but I don’t know if he’s take no matter what like Lucas and Moss. Doesn’t sound like much of a “board” besides that at this point.

I think taking a 4th end is fine given how they rotate more than the other defensive positions.

 

[Luckylucci]

I think taking a 4th end is fine given how they rotate more than the other defensive positions.

I get that, but they rotate (for the whole DL) a 2 deep plus a couple. Elston has said they think of it like a top 10. 7 over 2 classes is a 3 deep plus 1 at 2 positions. That’s a lot. And, We very well could be running a system that requires more DB’s than before. Need space for those DB’s.

 

[NDIrish88]

I get that, but they rotate (for the whole DL) a 2 deep plus a couple. Elston has said they think of it like a top 10. 7 over 2 classes is a 3 deep plus 1 at 2 positions. That’s a lot. And, We very well could be running a system that requires more DB’s than before. Need space for those DB’s.

Good point but is the worst DB being brought in better than Wesoloak at end? Guess we will see.

 

[Irishbounty28]

Maybe the staff like's its chances in the Moss race? Moss's top five doesn't seem unbeatable...being he is from Bishop Gorman?

 

[Luckylucci]

Good point but is the worst DB being brought in better than Wesoloak at end? Guess we will see.

Not really how that works. Step 1 is you have to recruit certain numbers at all positions so you have a competent depth chart. You recruit numbers to your base and then move on to BPA’s after that. Once they have 4 or 5 DB’s committed then we can talk about whether it should be Wesolak or ?(DB). We simply have no idea what that looks like at this time. What we do know is they’ve filled there numbers at DE with guys they really like and only have a BPA spot for arguably the top of the board prospect in Moss.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Not really how that works. Step 1 is you have to recruit certain numbers at all positions so you have a competent depth chart. You recruit numbers to your base and then move on to BPA’s after that. Once they have 4 or 5 DB’s committed then we can talk about whether it should be Wesolak or ?(DB). We simply have no idea what that looks like at this time. What we do know is they’ve filled there numbers at DE with guys they really like and only have a BPA spot for arguably the top of the board prospect in Moss.

I agree with your point. There is a counter though. If ND is consistent in not just filling the numbers, but filling it with the necessary talent each year, you could roll the dice. For example, the DB recruiting in recent years has been imbalanced in that regard. So, they can't sacrifice numbers at this point given the uncertainty of the production they will get from those on the roster. We feel like they can all contribute, but's a big unknown. Now, if ND had the full safety depth chart littered with top 100 or top 200 talent, you could roll the dice a bit more on BPA. But for whatever reason, ND recruiting seems to have an annual hole somewhere, which makes it nearly impossible to roll the dice on BPA as much as ND probably could.

 

[T-Boone]

I wonder if Angeli has more pull with WRs like Morris now he is ranked pretty high with ESPN.

 

[Trait Expectations]

I agree with your point. There is a counter though. If ND is consistent in not just filling the numbers, but filling it with the necessary talent each year, you could roll the dice. For example, the DB recruiting in recent years has been imbalanced in that regard. So, they can't sacrifice numbers at this point given the uncertainty of the production they will get from those on the roster. We feel like they can all contribute, but's a big unknown. Now, if ND had the full safety depth chart littered with top 100 or top 200 talent, you could roll the dice a bit more on BPA. But for whatever reason, ND recruiting seems to have an annual hole somewhere, which makes it nearly impossible to roll the dice on BPA as much as ND probably could.

What does this mean? The staff is always pushing for 3-4 players near the end of a cycle and they are usually unrelated positions. We sometimes have had positions not recruited well but the staff is always willing to take a quality BPA near the end unless we've maxed the numbers. Can you point to examples where they couldn't take a stud BPA because we were missing a corner or safety?

 

[Irish#1]

What does this mean? The staff is always pushing for 3-4 players near the end of a cycle and they are usually unrelated positions. We sometimes have had positions not recruited well but the staff is always willing to take a quality BPA near the end unless we've maxed the numbers. Can you point to examples where they couldn't take a stud BPA because we were missing a corner or safety?

Go back through the previous years posts. You’ll see plenty of posts where someone is concerned because we didn’t sign enough corners or LB’s or DE’s, etc. the previous year. The staff always fills the roster, but in the past there have been late offers because they missed on one or two the staff had targeted.

 

[hungryhippo]

I’d suggest DL wise, it seems this is the plan moving forward:

DE: Ford, Gobaira, Agu
DT: Hinish

There is Ernest Cooper seems to be in play but I don’t know if he’s take no matter what like Lucas and Moss. Doesn’t sound like much of a “board” besides that at this point.

How realistic do we consider Lucas at this point? How about Moss?

I was under the impression we were close to drivers seat for Lucas & Moss wasn't quite a pipe dream but didn't look great.

 

[Trait Expectations]

Go back through the previous years posts. You’ll see plenty of posts where someone is concerned because we didn’t sign enough corners or LB’s or DE’s, etc. the previous year. The staff always fills the roster, but in the past there have been late offers because they missed on one or two the staff had targeted.

So we're saying we aren't signing enough DEs this year? I thought his post said we routinely run out of room to take a BPA. We are always hoping to snag a few more top recruits at the end of cycle. We some times have a missed eval but that's a different issue entirely, right?

 

[Dale]

How realistic do we consider Lucas at this point? How about Moss?

I was under the impression we were close to drivers seat for Lucas & Moss wasn't quite a pipe dream but didn't look great.

Both I’d say we are top 3ish with legit shot, maybe Lucas a bit more likely but probably long way to go on each. Or at least we’ll see what cycle of visits give for each

 

[Ndaccountant]

So we're saying we aren't signing enough DEs this year? I thought his post said we routinely run out of room to take a BPA. We are always hoping to snag a few more top recruits at the end of cycle. We some times have a missed eval but that's a different issue entirely, right?

No, it's related. Think of it this way (made up numbers for the sake of example). ND is targeting 6 DB (S & CB) to meet the "numbers". However, if they were sure of the talent already on the roster, they could certainly pass with 5. This would free up one spot to take a BPA, even this early in the cycle. But since the talent is a question mark, they will try and fix the problem with "numbers".

I think we can all agree on that ND has done a very good job of recruiting in recent years. But it's far from perfect, even after considering restrictions (example: 2022 QB offers). I hope Cam Hart is a lock down corner. Raise your hand if 18 months ago you had Cam Hart on the 2021 BK spring comment bingo card. We have had a hard time recruiting consistent talent at some positions, which makes gambling on "the numbers" much more dangerous (and less likely to occur) for ND.

 

[Luckylucci]

I’ll leave this here also as the name of interest to me is Hero Kanu. He’s getting a lot of attention and the staff is probably familiar with him as he’s been with Brandon Collier before. If either name sounds familiar is because it’s Ehrensbergers former trainer.

https://247sports.com/college/notre...obaira-Terrance-Brooks-164209217/#164209217_3

 

[Luckylucci]

And in noteworthy news, he’ll be on campus to visit as part of the organizations recruiting trip. Will be interesting to see if the ND visit moves the needle for him or the staff. Great chance for ND staff to get eyes on him.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/BCollierPPI/status/1382551706232365058[/TWEET]

 

[Luckylucci]

He’s at Santa Margarita now, in Cali. Played their Spring schedule.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/alecsimpson5/status/1380720150962302979[/TWEET]

 

[dublinirish]

3* Josh Kattus - OH - 6-4/235 - Moeller - Michigan offer

Committed to Kentucky

https://247sports.com/college/kentu...oops-164425403/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

[BobbyMac]

Bet this has legs. It's the first offer he's posted since he committed to BC back in October.

He was on my original Hit List after his freshman year. Dude's got serious bounce.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Joegogetit2/status/1384651144564285441[/TWEET]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/GageNutter_/status/1384651989938753537[/TWEET]

 

[Luckylucci]

This the bounce you speak of.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Joegogetit2/status/1366242442404634626[/TWEET]

 

[Luckylucci]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Joegogetit2/status/1302428649363255296[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

Show off!

 

[Luckylucci]

I’ll leave this here also as the name of interest to me is Hero Kanu. He’s getting a lot of attention and the staff is probably familiar with him as he’s been with Brandon Collier before. If either name sounds familiar is because it’s Ehrensbergers former trainer.

https://247sports.com/college/notre...obaira-Terrance-Brooks-164209217/#164209217_3

As this article stated, Hero Kanu was in the same boat as Gobaira in that he's blowing up right now after an impressive season out West. 247Sports moved him up to #99 overall. Loy is saying he hasn't heard his name connected to ND but hopefully they get him on campus and take a hard look at him.

 

[PANDFAN]

As this article stated, Hero Kanu was in the same boat as Gobaira in that he's blowing up right now after an impressive season out West. 247Sports moved him up to #99 overall. Loy is saying he hasn't heard his name connected to ND but hopefully they get him on campus and take a hard look at him.

didn't read the article you posted so not sure if it was about what im saying but he is planning on coming to ND during the dream chasers tour

 

[Luckylucci]

didn't read the article you posted so not sure if it was about what im saying but he is planning on coming to ND during the dream chasers tour

Correct, I posted that tweet above that had ND on the map. My post was poorly worded. It should say that I hope "when" he is on campus they get eyes on him. Sometimes these visits are more complimentary to the programs that organize them than they are real recruiting visits for the football program hosting. My hope would be Freeman, Elston, etc give him sometime when here.