2016 Presidential Horse Race

[connor_in]

Dennis

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[NorthDakota]

Exactly Bernie's argument, so I'm all for him staying in to keep pushing Hillary left. He isn't going to get the nomination but that's how she gets his supporters IMO. He might even wind up her VP.

Is he really pulling her left though? I mean...she can say we are going to do all these far-left liberal programs, get elected, and do none of it.

 

[GoIrish41]

Is he really pulling her left though? I mean...she can say we are going to do all these far-left liberal programs, get elected, and do none of it.

2020 begins the day after the 16 election and I suspect she will want 2 terms, so she could do that or push for a higher minimum wage, affordable education universal health care and some more core issues Bernie has suggested.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Comments from Trump about the American judge of Mexican heritage show what I've said all along about him - he's a racist POS. How that's even debatable anymore is beyond me. It's been LOL funny watching Trump's sheep, errrrrrr, surrogates fumble over their words today trying to defend what Trump said. There is a reason prominent Republicans all over the nation, even ones who have whole-heartedly backed Trump, are condemning his statements. He is somehow getting more Hispanics to hate him lol.

But whatever, him being a racist is old news to me. If you haven't read this yet, here is a fascinating view into the Trump campaign, and how he's trying to do it with a skeleton/bickering staff.

Donald Trump does not have a campaign | MSNBC

He better wake the fuck up and stop shooting himself in the foot with a bazooka because he is about to usher the easiest-to-beat candidate in history into the White House.

 

[NDgradstudent]

He better wake the fuck up and stop shooting himself in the foot with a bazooka because he is about to usher the easiest-to-beat candidate in history into the White House.

I don't like Trump very much, and would rather the GOP nominate someone else. I probably won't vote for anyone for President. So I sympathize with your point.

That said, there is a lot of evidence that elections are not about the candidates, nor about the campaigns, nor the debates, etc., but structural factors such as which party controls the Presidency, how popular the President is, how the economy is doing. This is why political scientists can predict the popular vote % of the incumbent party candidate very precisely by the late summer.

Given that the economy is doing fairly well, and Obama is in the low 50s in approval (remember: Bush was in the low 30s in 2008) this is not such a bad year for Democrats as some people assume would have been the case if Kasich, Rubio, etc., were nominated.

 

[GATTACA!]

 

[connor_in]

State Department says to expect Hillary Clinton’s TPP emails on a day that doesn’t exist – twitchy.com

 

[kmoose]

2020 begins the day after the 16 election and I suspect she will want 2 terms, so she could do that or push for a higher minimum wage, affordable education universal health care and some more core issues Bernie has suggested.

She'll push whatever agenda her Investing Banking financiers tell her to push. SSDD.

 

[kmoose]

Comments from Trump about the American judge of Mexican heritage show what I've said all along about him - he's a racist POS. How that's even debatable anymore is beyond me.

Let's pump the brakes a little. Trump's comments about the judge were not racist. Trump is asserting that the judge is treating him unfairly because the judge belongs to a group of people that, as a general rule, don't like him. That might be delusional and paranoid, but it's not racist. If he had said, "Well, ya know....... Hispanics traditionally have not had the intelligence to adjudicate these matters in a fair and impartial manner...", then THAT would be a no-brainer racist statement. But saying that a guy doesn't like you and is treating you unfairly is not racist.

 

[IrishLax]

State Department Blocks Release Of Hillary Clinton-Era TPP Emails Until After The Election

Oh come on....

 

[Ndaccountant]

State Department Blocks Release Of Hillary Clinton-Era TPP Emails Until After The Election

Oh come on....

In other news, the sun came up today......

 

[woolybug25]

Let's pump the brakes a little. Trump's comments about the judge were not racist. Trump is asserting that the judge is treating him unfairly because the judge belongs to a group of people that, as a general rule, don't like him. That might be delusional and paranoid, but it's not racist. If he had said, "Well, ya know....... Hispanics traditionally have not had the intelligence to adjudicate these matters in a fair and impartial manner...", then THAT would be a no-brainer racist statement. But saying that a guy doesn't like you and is treating you unfairly is not racist.

I really can't comprehend how people can't see how saying someone is unqualified or unfit for a position simply because of their race or religion is wrong. Trump is essentially saying that he needs a white male to preside over any of his court hearings, because he has offended everyone else, making them incapable of doing their jobs.

Can you imagine if every white supremacist demanded their judge and jury be white? Would that not be racist?

This is a topic that simply blows me away. How people can justify this as not racist, simply because he is their party's nominee, is beyond me. I'm sad for America.

 

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[connor_in]

State Department Blocks Release Of Hillary Clinton-Era TPP Emails Until After The Election

Oh come on....

As I posted above, its even worse than that. Not only did they choose a day that would be after the election (because an informed electorate would only interfere with the process, right?), but they even chose a day that doesn't exist 11/31/16 (as linked to above)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/StateDept">@StateDept</a> predicts release of Clinton TPP emails on November 31, a date that doesn't exist <a href="https://t.co/i9fh8Iqaxp">https://t.co/i9fh8Iqaxp</a> <a href="https://t.co/5rlW2zEMxO">pic.twitter.com/5rlW2zEMxO</a></p>— Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) <a href="https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/739933935120044032">June 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[NorthDakota]

As I posted above, its even worse than that. Not only did they choose a day that would be after the election (because an informed electorate would only interfere with the process, right?), but they even chose a day that doesn't exist 11/31/16 (as linked to above)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/StateDept">@StateDept</a> predicts release of Clinton TPP emails on November 31, a date that doesn't exist <a href="https://t.co/i9fh8Iqaxp">https://t.co/i9fh8Iqaxp</a> <a href="https://t.co/5rlW2zEMxO">pic.twitter.com/5rlW2zEMxO</a></p>— Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) <a href="https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/739933935120044032">June 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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These people need to lose their jobs. Though what else should we expect from the Feds during the Obama Administration.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Let's pump the brakes a little. Trump's comments about the judge were not racist. Trump is asserting that the judge is treating him unfairly because the judge belongs to a group of people that, as a general rule, don't like him. That might be delusional and paranoid, but it's not racist. If he had said, "Well, ya know....... Hispanics traditionally have not had the intelligence to adjudicate these matters in a fair and impartial manner...", then THAT would be a no-brainer racist statement. But saying that a guy doesn't like you and is treating you unfairly is not racist.

You cannot be serious with this. It is 1000% racist. He is not only saying that the judge doesn't like him. He CLEARLY said that the judge cannot do his job fairly because he is a Mexican. That is the very definition of racism. I mean, how much more clear do you have to be?

And the judge is American! Born in Indiana.

If you don't believe me, ask the scores of Republicans, many who have backed Trump, who have come out and condemned his comments, including Paul Ryan who just came out and slammed Trump's comments as clearly racist. C'mon kmoose, this isn't about PC or anything close - this is about as blatant racism as a candidate not named David Duke can get, and if were anyone else that candidate would have been disqualified lonnnng ago. But for Trump, it's just another day at the office. Your comments above allow it to happen. Call a spade a spade man.

 

[woolybug25]

Anybody notice the tag line in the new Purge movie?

"Keep America Great"

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wouldn't support a Purge night. No italics.

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-purge-election-year-trailer/

 

[NorthDakota]

Anybody notice the tag line in the new Purge movie?

"Keep America Great"

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wouldn't support a Purge night. No italics.

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-purge-election-year-trailer/

Was the tag line chosen before or after he started "Make America Great Again."

Wouldn't be surprised at all if the hollywood folks tried subconsciously undermining the man.

 

[woolybug25]

Was the tag line chosen before or after he started "Make America Great Again."

Wouldn't be surprised at all if the hollywood folks tried subconsciously undermining the man.

I'm not sure. I would assume after, but it seems like it is an actual element of the film. Which had to have been filmed prior to Trump, right?

Not sure. But I don't believe in coincidences.

 

[NorthDakota]

I'm not sure. I would assume after, but it seems like it is an actual element of the film. Which had to have been filmed prior to Trump, right?

Not sure. But I don't believe in coincidences.

You must spread reputation around before giving to woolybug25 again.

 

[GoIrish41]

Joe: GOP must start calling Trump out | MSNBC

Is he right, or should the GOP just roll with their candidate? I say Trump spells the destruction of the Republican Party that will take years to rebuild. What say you?

 

[Bishop2b5]

You cannot be serious with this. It is 1000% racist. He is not only saying that the judge doesn't like him. He CLEARLY said that the judge cannot do his job fairly because he is a Mexican. That is the very definition of racism. I mean, how much more clear do you have to be?

And the judge is American! Born in Indiana.

If you don't believe me, ask the scores of Republicans, many who have backed Trump, who have come out and condemned his comments, including Paul Ryan who just came out and slammed Trump's comments as clearly racist. C'mon kmoose, this isn't about PC or anything close - this is about as blatant racism as a candidate not named David Duke can get, and if were anyone else that candidate would have been disqualified lonnnng ago. But for Trump, it's just another day at the office. Your comments above allow it to happen. Call a spade a spade man.

I don't necessarily agree or disagree with Trump on this judge, but his accusation that the judge is biased against him because he's against illegal Mexican immigration and the judge is of Mexican ancestry is not without some merit. We typically don't allow people to sit on a jury if they've been a victim of a crime similar to that the accused is being tried for due to the difficulty most people would have separating their own history & feelings from judging a similar case impartially. Trump isn't just claiming that the judge's heritage potentially make him biased, but that many of his previous rulings in this case show a clear actual bias.

 

[GoIrish41]

I don't necessarily agree or disagree with Trump on this judge, but his accusation that the judge is biased against him because he's against illegal Mexican immigration and the judge is of Mexican ancestry is not without some merit. We typically don't allow people to sit on a jury if they've been a victim of a crime similar to that the accused is being tried for due to the difficulty most people would have separating their own history & feelings from judging a similar case impartially. Trump isn't just claiming that the judge's heritage potentially make him biased, but that many of his previous rulings in this case show a clear actual bias.

This isn't the Reconstruction-era South, where we the country is working through how we are going to decide such things as who can be trusted to be impartial, or worse, who can't. Trump's position is regressive, offensive and ignorant.

Should we insist that all judges for cases in which there is a an African American defendant and a white victim are black? White people can't possibly give such matters a fair hearing, can they? Of course this is ridiculous, just as what Trump is suggesting is ridiculous. He's trying to load the bench with "his people" because he believes that every judge would behave in bad faith, abuse his/her authority, and prioritize race over justice, just as HE would.

The judge made rulings that Trump didn't like, so naturally thin-skinned Donald lashes out at the judge and accuse him of being unfair and "trumps" up some BS charge about how he can't be impartial. It can't possibly be that the rulings were correct and fair because they went against this crybaby con artist. Perhaps he should have thought about fairness before running a scam to rip people off in the first place. Then none of us would have ever heard of the judge, and a lot of folks would still have money in their retirement funds. Since Trump has not yet "Made America Great Again," judges can still be Mexican-Americans, Muslims and, yes, even women. I hope you don't consider this garbage for another fleeting moment, Bishop ... you are much, much better than this.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Paul Ryan: Trump's Judge Comment 'The Textbook Definition Of A Racist Comment'

 

[NDgradstudent]

So are we allowed to consider race, or not?

Because we have someone on the Supreme Court right now who was not only chosen because of her sex and race but who further thinks that her race causes her to make better decisions than white judges.

We also know that liberals never criticize juries for being entirely white. Oh...

 

[Legacy]

Does anyone really think this is out of character for Donald Trump or that no other Presidential candidate would call the judge's rulings into question due to his race?

Remember this is the Presidential candidate who attacked ("Lying")Ted Cruz for his birth, ("little", "sweating", "large ears") Marco Rubio and N.M. Governor and current Rep Governors Association President, Susanna Martinez. Cruz and Rubio had parents who immigrated to the U.S. and Martinez had grandparents from Mexico.

You have to keep in mind that this could be a President who will make appointments to his Cabinet and for judges.

 

[Legacy]

So are we allowed to consider race, or not?

Because we have someone on the Supreme Court right now who was not only chosen because of her sex and race but who further thinks that her race causes her to make better decisions than white judges.

Wasn't she vetted and approved by the Senate?

The Supreme Court will come out with a ruling soon that will significantly impact Affirmative Action.

Besides, Trump said about Rubio:

“The Rubios of the world could not get into that school [Wharton School at University of Pennsylvania, which Trump attended]. Oy. They don’t have the capacity.”

I doubt whether a Pres Trump would nominate a minority ("the Rubios of the world") for a Supreme Court position. "They don't have the capacity."

 

[Legacy]

That Judge Attacked by Donald Trump? He’s Faced a Lot Worse

For much of a year, Gonzalo P. Curiel, then a federal prosecutor in California, lived officially in hiding.

He hunkered down for a while on a naval base and in other closely guarded locations under the protection of United States marshals. Even his siblings did not know exactly where he was at times.

The reason: In a secretly taped conversation inside a San Diego prison, a man accused of being a gunman for a Mexican drug cartel said that he had received permission from his superiors to have Mr. Curiel assassinated.

 

[connor_in]

BOOM! Hillary Clinton CAUGHT COLLUDING WIth AP to Announce Delegate Win Before California!

 

[NorthDakota]

Wasn't she vetted and approved by the Senate?

The Supreme Court will come out with a ruling soon that will significantly impact Affirmative Action.

Besides, Trump said about Rubio:

I doubt whether a Pres Trump would nominate a minority ("the Rubios of the world") for a Supreme Court position. "They don't have the capacity."

I doubt the "Rubio" comment refers to ethnicity. I would bet he means people who are like Rubio mentally. Rubio is a UF grad isn't he? We all know Ivy Leaguers would never ever ever make fun of less prestigious university's graduates right?