2016 Presidential Horse Race

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NDinL.A.

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ill assume you were looking in the mirror when you typed this. Since you are arguing against your own comment. You a funny guy

Nope, directly to you and the sheep. The double standard is laughable from you guys, just like I said above. Read closer - where have I defended Hillary? I've said several times that I understand why people hate Hillary; but for the life of me I will never understand how you guys support such a sexist, fear-mongering, race baiting, egomaniacal, Hillary supporting POS in Trump.
 

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Dude, Donald Trump's personal butler wants the President to be hanged and/or shot, and is perhaps the most racist, sick fuck out there. Trump's team allowed a white supremacist to be a delegate in CA. Trump's tax returns have so many dirty secrets he's tryouts no to be the first presidential candidate in 40+ years not to release his tax returns before the election. He is such a weird, egomaniac, that he used to call reporters pretending to be his new publicist, just to brag about all the wonderful things he was doing and how many women were after him, and then when confronted with clear evidence that it was him, he still lied about it like the buffoon he is.

And this is just within the past could days. It's just going to get worse as the Dems start to ramp up their vetting of that clown.

I get that you hate Clinton, but your getting pissed about some plane allegation against her husband, when Trump (the actual candidate) is doing shit seemingly by the hour that should have people up in arms.

Your hypocrisy is hilarious. You call everyone on here that hates Hillary a Trump sheep, as you go around defending her twice as hard.

In m y post, the one you were responding to, I didn't mention Hillary or even Bill. I was commenting on the fairly objective fact that it's fucked up that a child rapists personal jet is nicknamed the "lolita express". Your response is to go on some unrelated rant about how Trump is racist. Errrr or at least his butler is, who has more influence on Trump than Obamas own pastor had on him (double standard?)

I'm sorry some moron called you a wetback. That's fucked up and inexcusable, but this has clearly become super personal for you. If your opinion is so clouded by Trump hate that you're defending a child rapist Im sorry but I can't take your posts seriously.
 

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Your hypocrisy is hilarious. You call everyone on here that hates Hillary a Trump sheep, as you go around defending her twice as hard.

In m y post, the one you were responding to, I didn't mention Hillary or even Bill. I was commenting on the fairly objective fact that it's fucked up that a child rapists personal jet is nicknamed the "lolita express". Your response is to go on some unrelated rant about how Trump is racist. Errrr or at least his butler is, who has more influence on Trump than Obamas own pastor had on him (double standard?)

I'm sorry some moron called you a wetback. That's fucked up and inexcusable, but this has clearly become super personal for you. If your opinion is so clouded by Trump hate that you're defending a child rapist Im sorry but I can't take your posts seriously.

No, I call every Trump sheep a Trump sheep. Pretty simple.

When have I defended Obama? PLEASE go find that post and report back. So where is the double standard?

Where did I defend a child rapist?

You had a series of posts on Clinton, which I was responding to. My bad for not quoting all of them. I quoted the final one.

You're absolutely right though, I am clouded. But it's not just one dude calling me that. I wish it was that simple. This shit goes on like crazy - I've been called "illegal" twice as well, to my face, because I don't support Trump. And don't even get me started on FB - those fucking people are absolutely insane (yes, it was stupid of me to ever engage - now I just read and watch the blatant racism from afar). At the HS level, Hispanics are being subjected to "Build a Wall" chants during games from their anglo brethren. 1st hand reports of Trump rallies resembling psuedo-KKK rallies are out there to read.

I don't think you're a Trump sheep. You're definitely a conservative that hates Hillary (I used to be that way too), and I'm fine with that as well. Like I've said a million times, I get that. What I don't understand is the Trump sheep who ignore not only what a POS human being he is, but just how screwed up his potential policies are and how they would cripple the economy. And I don't understand how people like my own father can condemn Trump for so long suddenly support Trump "for the party's sake". What fucking party? This party is a mess. I've come to realize that I'll rather take 4 more years of Obama/Hillary, take this time to regroup and retool the party (and tap into the passion that Trump brings out of people, while also being, you know, sane and decent humans), and then win the WH in 2020. Because 4 years of Trump would IMHO send the world back into a depression with his multiple trade wars and ridiculous 35% tariffs (among other crazy, inhumane policies), and ruin race relations FAR worse than Obama ever could have. I can't believe this so many in this nation think it's wise to put a maniac wildcard in office, just for the sake of change.

I shouldn't have quoted you. For that, my sincerest apologies. This Trump shit has become too personal for me.
 
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Who is the child rapist? I must have missed something.

Bill Clinton jumped aboard disgraced sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' plane for junkets 26 TIMES in just three years

Bill Clinton spent enough time aboard disgraced Wall Street mogul Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' airplane that he should be eligible for frequent flyer miles, according to a shocking new report that reveals how often the former U.S. president road along with with the convicted sex offender.

Flight logs reviewed by Fox News show Clinton took 26 trips aboard Epstein's Boeing 727 jet, more than double the 11 flights previously known.

Epstein's jet was reportedly set up with a bed where guests had group sex with young girls.

One of them, Virginia Giuffre, has claimed she was lured into joining Epstein's harem when she was just 15 years old and was then known as Virginia Roberts.
 

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This is why I laugh when I hear democrats rail against citizens united. You hate money in politics and then this is your nominee.......

This is why I laugh when I see anyone speak of political parties being monolithic entities.

Have you missed the articles on the Hillary campaign's complete lack of enthusiasm and inability to reach the younger crowd, which just so happens to be the crowd most fervently railing against money in politics?
 

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My point is that most voters aren't fully aware of how often, with whom, and Trump's marital status when his "Willy went stepping out". And you know there are more than the three wives. The media has Trump right where they want him. Now they will look for and expose the dirt to bring him down. Hillary's personal life has been widely covered dating back to at least 1992. It's going to be hard to find any new dirt on her. Trump, on the other hand, has a past that has been largely unexplored by the media.

GOP tried their hardest to bring him down. So did many in the media. I doubt there is much left in his past that people dont know about at this point really.
 

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This is why I laugh when I see anyone speak of political parties being monolithic entities.

Have you missed the articles on the Hillary campaign's complete lack of enthusiasm and inability to reach the younger crowd, which just so happens to be the crowd most fervently railing against money in politics?

This is why I laugh...

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NDinL.A.

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GOP tried their hardest to bring him down. So did many in the media. I doubt there is much left in his past that people dont know about at this point really.

You underestimate the power of the almighty dollar. People who have the goods on Trump are going to want to get paid. You have to remember, most politicians get vetted for years because they have been in the game so long. Trump is a puppy relatively speaking, not even in the game for a year yet.

Just look at that ridiculous "tape-gate" on Friday. This was known by pretty much all NY reporters in the 90's, and it barely came out this most week, AFTER he won the nomination. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if there is much more crap out there on the Donald. And I wouldn be surprised if his supporters continue to not give a crap (in fact you can pretty much guarantee it). It's his tepid supporters and on-the-fence people that I'm interested in seeing how these things eventually affect them.
 

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Anyone know anything about the book The Confessions of Congressman X? It just popped up on my radar today.

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It's his tepid supporters and on-the-fence people that I'm interested in seeing how these things eventually affect them.

How do you think it should affect them?

Should a guy pretending to be someone else on the phone to toot his own horn really be an issue, if the incident occurred when he was just a celebrity businessman, and not a politician?
 

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Anyone know anything about the book The Confessions of Congressman X? It just popped up on my radar today.

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My initial thoughts are that it's pretty cowardly of a congressman to anonymously pen a scathing book about others, when he's not willing to put his name on it. Without it, it's essentially a fiction novel. There is no way for a reader to know how much, if anything, is true.
 

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Nevada Democratic Convention: Bernie, Hillary Fans Fight

...seems like some of the Bern folks aren't likely to come on board with Clinton...

U mean the Bernie groups of Emo teens who hate the world, racist hate groups who hate the world, and feminists who hate the world didn't play nice. Someone must have triggered them with a MAGA hat or even worse held up an American flag "GASP", its the only explanation.
 

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My initial thoughts are that it's pretty cowardly of a congressman to anonymously pen a scathing book about others, when he's not willing to put his name on it. Without it, it's essentially a fiction novel. There is no way for a reader to know how much, if anything, is true.

I agree. Although, my second thought is that if he's a sitting Congressman and wants to keep his job, he can't put his name on it.

It's just $10 so what the hell...but...I'm sure none of it is surprising to a cynical person, like myself. So maybe I'll wait for a free pdf version to pop up online.
 

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U mean the Bernie groups of Emo teens who hate the world, racist hate groups who hate the world, and feminists who hate the world didn't play nice. Someone must have triggered them with a MAGA hat or even worse held up an American flag "GASP", its the only explanation.

I'm just wondering if you actually think about what you are typing before you hit "submit reply" or you believe such comments have some intellectual value.

"Emo teens who hate the world" -- if you think this is the extent of Bernie's support among young Americans, you simply have not been paying attention. He is getting similar numbers with young people as Obama received with African American voters. He was a relatively unknown political quantity, and is giving a candidate who has prepared her whole life to run for president, a run for her money.

"Racist hate groups who hate the world" -- I think you have the wrong candidate. Trump is the guy who has put a white supremacist on the delegate list in CA; has retweeted multiple posts from white supremacists, called Mexicans rapists and criminals, proposed banning Muslims from entering the country, and has received the endorsement of David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. I'm assuming your characterization is referring to Black Lives Matter. If so, calling them a "hate group" is just dumb as hell. When a group people are treated as second-class citizens over the entire existence of the country, eventually they are going to speak out in protest of such treatment. Is this not their right as American citizens? I'll bet you think that reverse discrimination is a bigger problem than racism, too.

Feminists who hate the world -- Do some feminists come on too strong? Sure, for my taste, they do. But the feminist movement is a reaction to longstanding negative treatment by men -- often baked into the culture. Should they just keep quiet and make you a sandwich or do they have a right to speak out about pay discrimination? Should they just keep quiet when they are dismissed as "emotional" actors? Should they just be content to listen to old white dudes telling them about what they should and should not be permitted to do with their own bodies?

You sure do have a lot to say about all these groups "hating the world," when your boy Trump has seized your party by appealing to the hate that flows through its base. He's going to Make American Great Again -- calling for a time when young people, blacks, immigrants and women understood their place. It is pretty clear to me that you haven't put much thought into your position (or your post). Your party is a dumpster fire because its level of understanding of what is going on in this country is blind to that of everyone except its own myopic 19th Century view of how the country should work. They want to blame everyone for what is wrong, except for the obvious. Apparently there are no mirrors allowed in the Republican Party ... or when they look in one they can't see their reflection. It's the only explanation.
 
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Stuff like this is why he is stealing my heart...and my vote.

I may kick myself for doing this, but I have to ask why "stuff like this" makes you like the guy enough to vote for him as POTUS. Is it just this petty name-calling, childish demeanor that attracts you, or are there more serious reasons you feel he's capable in this role?

To be perfectly honest, while yea it's funny to make a joke about Warren's claim to her heritage (while not entirely proven nor disproven), his 'comebacks' to her epic rants on why he's a terrible candidate completely, and totally fall short. She's drilled him on key points time and time again, and his best comeback is to call her Pocahontas...and you guys can't seem to get enough of it. Makes zero sense to me.
 

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Sound bite nation - if we are going to ignore resumes you might as well opt for entertainment value.
 

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I'm just wondering if you actually think about what you are typing before you hit "submit reply" or you believe such comments have some intellectual value.

"Emo teens who hate the world" -- if you think this is the extent of Bernie's support among young Americans, you simply have not been paying attention. He is getting similar numbers with young people as Obama received with African American voters. He was a relatively unknown political quantity, and is giving a candidate who has prepared her whole life to run for president, a run for her money.

"Racist hate groups who hate the world" -- I think you have the wrong candidate. Trump is the guy who has put a white supremacist on the delegate list in CA; has retweeted multiple posts from white supremacists, called Mexicans rapists and criminals, proposed banning Muslims from entering the country, and has received the endorsement of David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. I'm assuming your characterization is referring to Black Lives Matter. If so, calling them a "hate group" is just dumb as hell. When a group people are treated as second-class citizens over the entire existence of the country, eventually they are going to speak out in protest of such treatment. Is this not their right as American citizens? I'll bet you think that reverse discrimination is a bigger problem than racism, too.

Feminists who hate the world -- Do some feminists come on too strong? Sure, for my taste, they do. But the feminist movement is a reaction to longstanding negative treatment by men -- often baked into the culture. Should they just keep quiet and make you a sandwich or do they have a right to speak out about pay discrimination? Should they just keep quiet when they are dismissed as "emotional" actors? Should they just be content to listen to old white dudes telling them about what they should and should not be permitted to do with their own bodies?

You sure do have a lot to say about all these groups "hating the world," when your boy Trump has seized your party by appealing to the hate that flows through its base. He's going to Make American Great Again -- calling for a time when young people, blacks, immigrants and women understood their place. It is pretty clear to me that you haven't put much thought into your position (or your post). Your party is a dumpster fire because its level of understanding of what is going on in this country is blind to that of everyone except its own myopic 19th Century view of how the country should work. They want to blame everyone for what is wrong, except for the obvious. Apparently there are no mirrors allowed in the Republican Party ... or when they look in one they can't see their reflection. It's the only explanation.

Didn't read cuz I know its your same copy and paste trash. Plus you wrote a book about a half hearted post, cuz you are SAWFT and easily triggered.
 

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I may kick myself for doing this, but I have to ask why "stuff like this" makes you like the guy enough to vote for him as POTUS. Is it just this petty name-calling, childish demeanor that attracts you, or are there more serious reasons you feel he's capable in this role?

To be perfectly honest, while yea it's funny to make a joke about Warren's claim to her heritage (while not entirely proven nor disproven), his 'comebacks' to her epic rants on why he's a terrible candidate completely, and totally fall short. She's drilled him on key points time and time again, and his best comeback is to call her Pocahontas...and you guys can't seem to get enough of it. Makes zero sense to me.

1. He wasn't my first choice. Far from it. When life gives you lemons, make some lemonade. I'd rather have him over "Crooked Hilary" or "Crazy Bernie." Maybe Ryan and McConnell are lying about their talks with The Donald going pretty well, but I'll take their word for the time being.

2. Challenging her Native American status is funny, especially if it turned out she isn't Native.

3. Cult of Personality
 
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