Terror Attacks in Belgium

notredomer23

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At least 28 dead so far and media reporting Belgian officials are expecting more attacks. Absolutely terrible.
 

irishff1014

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Yup this is sad. I think they said 3 bombers 2 at the airport and 1 in the subway car.
 

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Religion of Peace...

Shouldn't jump to conclusions. This could have been ANYBODY. There are all sorts of people who shout 'allahu Akbar' before going pop, right? No way the adherents of a peaceful religion could be behind this. No way.
 

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Religion of Peace...

Because all muslims are ISIS. Right.


Can you please quit being a total ahole every time something bad happens? I didn't hear you say shit when the Uber killings happened, or the SC shootings, etc. But every time a story regarding ISIS pops up, you say the same worn the fuq out one liner.
 

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Because all muslims are ISIS. Right.


Can you please quit being a total ahole every time something bad happens? I didn't hear you say shit when the Uber killings happened, or the SC shootings, etc. But every time a story regarding ISIS pops up, you say the same worn the fuq out one liner.

Off topic: did they ever figure out why that lunatic was cruising round town popping people?


On topic: sad deal. Really wish they could get this stuff under control.
 

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I'm going to be in Brussels in 3 months. So... that's fun.
 

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Because all muslims are ISIS. Right.

No, but all ISIS members are Muslim. Going further, all ISIS actions are done under a faith based initiative...regardless of how distorted that take on the Muslim faith is.


I will add some questions.

You seem to hold Trump responsible for the actions at his events. Actions that you do not agree with. Yet somehow seem to be defending Muslims, as a whole, from a very aggressive faction. Why is that?

Why does 'leadership' of the Muslim faith and it's entire body of members get a pass for a small faction of supporters with you but Trump and the entire body of his backers do not?

Seems to be a pretty clear double standard if you ask me.
 

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No, but all ISIS members are Muslim. Going further, all ISIS actions are done under a faith based initiative...regardless of how distorted that take on the Muslim faith is.

KKK represents themselves as a "christian organization". Since all KKK members are Christian, does that mean all Christians are racists?


I will add some questions.

You seem to hold Trump responsible for the actions at his events. Actions that you do not agree with. Yet somehow seem to be defending Muslims, as a whole, from a very aggressive faction. Why is that?

Why does 'leadership' of the Muslim faith and it's entire body of members get a pass for a small faction of supporters with you but Trump and the entire body of his backers do not?

Seems to be a pretty clear double standard if you ask me.

This is a lie perpetrated by people like you. A quick google search can show you how flawed this argument is...

The Organization Of Islamic Cooperation: The Islamic State Has “Nothing To Do With Islam,” Has Committed Crimes “That Cannot Be Tolerated.” As the Vatican’s internal news source reported, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, which represents 1.4 billion Muslims in 57 countries around the world, condemned the Islamic State’s persecution of of Christians and other religious minorities in Iraq, saying the “forced deportation under the threat of execution” is a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” According to the Vatican:

Read more: Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord
Read more at Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord

Al-Azhar: Islamic State Is Corrupt And “A Danger To Islam.” Lebanese paper The Daily Star reported that Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam, Egypt’s highest religious authority, denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group both violates Sharia law and humanitarian law: “[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.” [The Daily Star, 8/13/14]

Read more: Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord
Read more at Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord

Arab League: “Strongly Denounced” The “Crimes Against Humanity” Carried Out By The Islamic State. On August 11, Nabil al-Arabi, the Arab League Chief, denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to justice. According to Al Arabiya News, he said in a statement that he “strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis.” [Al Arabiya News, 8/11/14]

Read more: Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord
Read more at Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord

Turkey’s Top Cleric: Islamic State’s Threats Are “Hugely Damaging,” “Truly Awful.” Turkey’s highest ranking cleric, Mehmet Gormez, decried the Islamic State’s declaration of a “caliphate” and argued that the statements were damaging to the Muslim community, according to Reuters:
“Such declarations have no legitimacy whatsoever,” Mehmet Gormez, head of the Religious Affairs Directorate, the highest religious authority in Turkey, which, although a majority Muslim country, has been a secular state since the 1920s.
“Since the caliphate was abolished … there have been movements that think they can pull together the Muslim world by re-establishing a caliphate, but they have nothing to do with reality, whether from a political or legal perspective.”
Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging.


Read more: Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord
Read more at Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord

Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord
 

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Don't categorize all Muslims. Do Categorize all Conservatives.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We must RESIST the political exploitation of this attack in Brussels that will arrive shortly from Donald Trump and American conservatives.</p>— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/712236692992892928">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I hope you are going there for work?

Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.
 

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Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

Congrats Lax. I hope you guys still get a chance to enjoy the honeymoon.
 

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Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.
The wine is good and undervalued there. Congrats btw!

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Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

Brussels is a dire, depressing city anyways, get on the train and head up to Brugges and skip Brussels, if you missus loves shopping hit up Antwerp. Have gone on beer holidays in Belgium many times and had great trips but have always spent little time in Brussels
 

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You seem to hold Trump responsible for the actions at his events. Actions that you do not agree with. Yet somehow seem to be defending Muslims, as a whole, from a very aggressive faction. Why is that?

Why does 'leadership' of the Muslim faith and it's entire body of members get a pass for a small faction of supporters with you but Trump and the entire body of his backers do not?

Seems to be a pretty clear double standard if you ask me.

Actually, if you follow the logic, it's not a double standard at all.......

TRUMP: supporters are (allegedly) kicking ass at every event.......... I haven't see wooly blame the supporters, only the man at the top of the food chain.

ISIS: While I haven't seen him rail on about the leaders of ISIS, his position of not blaming the supporters for what he feels is the fault of the leadership is actually quite consistent.
 

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Actually, if you follow the logic, it's not a double standard at all.......

TRUMP: supporters are (allegedly) kicking ass at every event.......... I haven't see wooly blame the supporters, only the man at the top of the food chain.

ISIS: While I haven't seen him rail on about the leaders of ISIS, his position of not blaming the supporters for what he feels is the fault of the leadership is actually quite consistent.

I addressed this in my last post, which you completely ignored, but I digress.


Where did I not blame Trump's supporters? Of course they share the blame. I blame Trump for inciting it and not doing anything to stop it, simply because it helps his poll numbers.

Your post regarding ISIS doesn't even make sense. Blaming the leaders of ISIS is kinda self evident. It's not something that needs to be stated specifically because the entire group is condemned. They are all at fault.

You didn't seem to make an actual point in your post.
 

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Don't categorize all Muslims. Do Categorize all Conservatives.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We must RESIST the political exploitation of this attack in Brussels that will arrive shortly from Donald Trump and American conservatives.</p>— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/712236692992892928">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Ha, that's pretty good.
 

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KKK represents themselves as a "christian organization". Since all KKK members are Christian, does that mean all Christians are racists?


This is a lie perpetrated by people like you. A quick google search can show you how flawed this argument is...



Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again - Common Word, Common Lord

When was the last time the KKK did something of substance though?

Condemning ISIS is one thing, getting the crazies under some sort of control would be nice. I'd like to think there are enough muslims around for them to get these guys in line.
 

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Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

Congrats on the marriage and hope you have a safe trip.
 

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Since Trump was already brought up....it's like he writes the news sometimes....he's been saying there will be more of these bombings in Europe. This will boost him big time IMO.

Terrible event. RIP to those in Brussels.
 
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KKK represents themselves as a "christian organization". Since all KKK members are Christian, does that mean all Christians are racists?

No but it means all KKK members are bad and it proves that all Christians are not good.

I have no problem with anyone pointing out the dangers in Christianity. From the KKK using religion as a mask their racism to the bigots who use Christianity to oppresses groups in the LGBT community.

I find great fault in all religions. I find great fault in all who have a strict or devout faith. If you're expecting me to defend Christians while attacking Muslims...you picked the wrong guy.

This is a lie perpetrated by people like you. A quick google search can show you how flawed this argument is...

If you go back and read what I wrote.... Done?

You will see that I was not talking about the Muslim leadership or Muslims themselves. I was talking about outsiders of the faith.

You're outside of the 'Trump tent' and have posted views on everyone inside of that tent and blamed Trump (the leader) for not doing enough to stop it. You have suggested that his words are without weight and suggested that they do more.

You're also outside of the 'Muslim tent' (I assume) but seem to not have similar take on the group as a whole. Even better, you take a couple of weak statements from the leaders as statements of truth...unlike your take on statements from Trump.

To be honest, only a fool takes what is written in a press release at face value. Actions matter.

THAT is why I am calling you out for the double standard.
 

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Since Trump was already brought up....it's like he writes the news sometimes....he's been saying there will be more of these bombings in Europe. This will boost him big time IMO.

Of course there will be anyone could say that. As long as there is Islamic radicals that don't care about their own life they will continue to be brain washed by their groups they choose to follow.
 

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Of course there will be anyone could say that. As long as there is Islamic radicals that don't care about their own life they will continue to be brain washed by their groups they choose to follow.

Oh I agree completely. He's not some prognosticator. He's just been harping on the issue much more than anyone. He repeats about the same 5 things over and over, and he just hit on one of them big time as far as voters will be concerned IMO.

I doubt anyone is really too shocked an attack like this happened in Europe. It was just a matter of where/when. Sad but true.
 
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