Upshot for the Rest of the Class (2016 Edition)

IrishLax

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Updated the front page. The herd is thinning! Assuming no decommits, expect us to take McKinley + Jones and try for two more. I believe the staff would love to close with one of Kelly or McCulloch (or both) and Robertson. Robertson seems like he'll be this cycle's "heartbreaker" recruit where we finish second and then he torments us for years to come.
 

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Updated the front page. The herd is thinning! Assuming no decommits, expect us to take McKinley + Jones and try for two more. I believe the staff would love to close with one of Kelly or McCulloch (or both) and Robertson. Robertson seems like he'll be this cycle's "heartbreaker" recruit where we finish second and then he torments us for years to come.

You've done a great job at keeping this thread updated. Thanks.
 

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Lax, in your latest update you removed Ferns and Velus Jones Jr. I thought there were 11 names listed before and now there are 8. Who am I missing?

Also, why did you remove Velus Jones? Is he not visiting anymore?

Finally, I think there should be another category at the bottom titled "Guys we have no shot at but are currently scheduled for an OV this month", which would include Ben Davis.
 

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Lax, in your latest update you removed Ferns and Velus Jones Jr. I thought there were 11 names listed before and now there are 8. Who am I missing?

Also, why did you remove Velus Jones? Is he not visiting anymore?

Finally, I think there should be another category at the bottom titled "Guys we have no shot at but are currently scheduled for an OV this month", which would include Ben Davis.

Haha yeah I really should add Den Davis... just because you never know, right?

I removed Velus Jones because I hadn't been hearing anything to suggest we're seriously in play there anymore. The other name I removed I believe was David Long, because he is set to announce between Michigan and Washington.
 

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Is Jones still visiting?

One thing that is a bit concerning about this recruiting cycle is the lack of January visits. Not sure if this is true or not, or if it historically produces results, but I feel like in the past we've had a lot more prospects on campus in January. Right now we only have 3 scheduled (unless Jones is a scratch), right? Davis, Morris and VJones?

With that said, as long as we land 1-2 LBs, I couldn't be happier with this class.
 

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Is Jones still visiting?

One thing that is a bit concerning about this recruiting cycle is the lack of January visits. Not sure if this is true or not, or if it historically produces results, but I feel like in the past we've had a lot more prospects on campus in January. Right now we only have 3 scheduled (unless Jones is a scratch), right? Davis, Morris and VJones?

With that said, as long as we land 1-2 LBs, I couldn't be happier with this class.

I think the big reason for such few January visits is for the first time in a long time we aren't scrambling to fill spots. We already have a great class and now just going for the cherry on top. I personally think this is the best year of recruiting this staff has done.
 

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How about closing with McCulloch, Kelly, McKinley, Robertson and Fuller. Or am I asking for too much?
 

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How about closing with McCulloch, Kelly, McKinley, Robertson and Fuller. Or am I asking for too much?

We will probably be lucky to finish with McKinley and Jones. I hope to god that I am wrong.
 

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We will probably be lucky to finish with McKinley and Jones. I hope to god that I am wrong.

I'm pretty sure that's expected, not lucky. We are heavy leans for both, and according to sources gathered from LAX, we lead for McCulloch (however, he still has an OV to Texas).
 

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I'm pretty sure that's expected, not lucky. We are heavy leans for both, and according to sources gathered from LAX, we lead for McCulloch (however, he still has an OV to Texas).

I understand that we are very close to getting them both and I am excited about getting the two. But I just don't think we can close out with the others.
 

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If we finish with McKinley, McCulloch, Robertson and Kelly, we'll have the #2 class on 247. Obviously Jones further solidifies that position.

Without Kelly, we'd have the 3rd best class as of now.

We believe we lead for McKinley and Jones? We believe we are #1 or #2 for McCulloch, can the same be said for Robertson? Kelly we feel we are #2 to Oklahoma?

Is that correct?
 

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If we finish with McKinley, McCulloch, Robertson and Kelly, we'll have the #2 class on 247. Obviously Jones further solidifies that position.

Without Kelly, we'd have the 3rd best class as of now.

We believe we lead for McKinley and Jones? We believe we are #1 or #2 for McCulloch, can the same be said for Robertson? Kelly we feel we are #2 to Oklahoma?

Is that correct?

Seems right, but I wouldn't go as far as saying we're in the top 2 for DRob just yet, but who knows.
 

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Big picture, either way this goes, this is a good class overall and I'll be happy with it. However, this could either be the best NSD we've had in a very long time or we could finish as bridesmaids for a few really really good players.
 

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Do your assumptions account for other undeclared players being added to top classes? Still a lot of chips left to fall.
 

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Is Jones still visiting?

One thing that is a bit concerning about this recruiting cycle is the lack of January visits. Not sure if this is true or not, or if it historically produces results, but I feel like in the past we've had a lot more prospects on campus in January.
Right now we only have 3 scheduled (unless Jones is a scratch), right? Davis, Morris and VJones?

With that said, as long as we land 1-2 LBs, I couldn't be happier with this class.

Under Holtz, recruiting visits essentially ended with the Banquet in early Dec. Davie, et al actually expanded January recruiting.

January weather in South Bend generally isn't conducive to impressing kids from the West Coast and South. ND also in on semester break in early January and the coaches want prospects and parents to interface with students and faculty. This year I believe classes begin again on Jan 12th.

Weather and an empty campus are the primary reasons ND doesn't plan many vistors in January.
 

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BK picking them up from the airport in Hawaiian shirt in a foot of snow and sub zero temps would be cool - subliminal message of "don't be a puss"
 

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BK picking them up from the airport in Hawaiian shirt in a foot of snow and sub zero temps would be cool - subliminal message of "don't be a puss"

Do you want purple face Kelly, because that's another way to get purple face Kelly.
 

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per andrew at rivals:

javon, Caleb Kelly or Jeffrey McCulloch but feels more confident in it being Kelly, Jonathan Jones or Damian Alloway or fuller...irish on outside looking in on Robertson
 

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per andrew at rivals:

javon, Caleb Kelly or Jeffrey McCulloch but feels more confident in it being Kelly, Jonathan Jones or Damian Alloway or fuller...irish on outside looking in on Robertson

What lol?
 
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Am I the only one who doesn't care for Andrew Ivins? I don't think he's bad at all, I just like most Irish reporters and really don't care one way or another for him.

dude can't go ten mins without mentioning that's its warmer in Orlando than South Bend. I actually don't mind him too much, I can listen to his friday recruiting podcasts with no problem (possibly because i am tired listening to Driskell, Lou and their autoloan shill)
 

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In just happy we are getting Javon. Big time.

The rest is icing on the cake.
 
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dude can't go ten mins without mentioning that's its warmer in Orlando than South Bend. I actually don't mind him too much, I can listen to his friday recruiting podcasts with no problem (possibly because i am tired listening to Driskell, Lou and their autoloan shill)

Auto loan is annoying. I like Lou for some reason, maybe because he's such a throw back and I think it's funny how he says 'Nore Dame'. I think Driskel is edgy but I think he's a football wiz, too. He really breaks down the player matchups well.
 

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Auto loan is annoying. I like Lou for some reason, maybe because he's such a throw back and I think it's funny how he says 'Nore Dame'. I think Driskel is edgy but I think he's a football wiz, too. He really breaks down the player matchups well.

Have no problem with either but I've been getting the weekly podcast of BGI since last June and every episode just seems like the same old message. they could really do with some guests on to liven the debate.
 

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Current Class Rankings:

Scout - 7th, 10 4:s: 12 3:S:
Rivals - 4th, 1 5:S: 10 4:s: 10 3:S:
ESPN - 14th, (not an insider)
247 - 9th, 9:S: 13:S:

Not expecting too many more at this point.

Jonathan Jones and slim chance at adding one if the other two LB. A late Jan surprise?
 

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Current Class Rankings:

Scout - 7th, 10 4:s: 12 3:S:
Rivals - 4th, 1 5:S: 10 4:s: 10 3:S:
ESPN - 14th, (not an insider)
247 - 9th, 9:S: 13:S:

Not expecting too many more at this point.

Jonathan Jones and slim chance at adding one if the other two LB. A late Jan surprise?

We are actually #5 on 247 with 1 five star, 9 four star and 11 three star. The ranking you listed above for 247 is the 247 composite.
 

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Basically, 3 out of 4 services really like our class, but because we don't have enough UA All-American game participants we're going to stay low on ESPN.
 
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