'11 CA LB Joe Schmidt (Scholarship Earned)

[rtrn2glory]

We were all sorts of bad beyond just Joe Schmidt on defense. That's the bottom line. Hate on the guy all you want but he is only a small part of the problem.

 

[ThePiombino]

We were all sorts of bad beyond just Joe Schmidt on defense. That's the bottom line. Hate on the guy all you want but he is only a small part of the problem.

Your two year starter, 5th year captain, former team MVP should not be a liability every time he's on the field. Joe was.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Again there were many more liabilities than Joe and I've been as big a Joe hater as any on here

 

[BabyIrish]

One of his better performances this season, good luck Joe!!

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Say what you want, but he loves ND as much as anybody. Ever. Proud of his hard work.

 

[wizards8507]

Say what you want, but he loves ND as much as anybody. Ever.

So do I. But I'm also fat, weak, and slow and have no business starting at tailback.

 

[Tejas]

So do I. But I'm also fat, weak, and slow and have no business starting at tailback.

Maybe if I was your coordinator, I'd let you score all the touchdowns.

For what it's worth, thanks and good luck, Joe!

 

[EifertPower]

Whether anyone liked his playing ability shouldn't matter. He gave 110% every time he stepped on the field and was always positive and uplifting to his teammates. Will be a nice addition as a GA.

Great kid. Everything you want from a player/student. If more players had his focus, work ethic and attitude they'd be all-americans. I actually think he'll make a great coach someday.

 

[ThePiombino]

So do I. But I'm also fat, weak, and slow and have no business starting at tailback.

Maybe not tailback, but BVG has an opening at ILB that he could probably slot you right in. You meat all the prereqs.

Not trying to pile on the kid. He did what each and every one of us would have done in his shoes. My frustration is mostly with the staff, past and present, for not recruiting or developing the position better.

 

[kmoose]

Not trying to pile on the kid. He did what each and every one of us would have done in his shoes. My frustration is mostly with the staff, past and present, for not recruiting or developing the position better.

Reggie Brooks made an interesting observation about Joe, on the postgame show:

Reggie has been PLENTY critical of Joe all year long, but he said that the one thing that no one is talking about is how Joe is always in the correct position. He doesn't always make the play, but he is always following his responsibility for the play. According to Reggie, that's been a problem with some of the other linebackers; they do too much freelancing, and leave their assignment uncovered. Reggie said that Schmidt has actually POSITIVELY influenced a bunch of plays, just by being in the right spot. Because a QB will have to move on to the next progression, simply because he sees a blue (or white, or green) jersey in the area that he would be throwing to. So that causes the QB to hold on to the ball a little longer, which gives the rush more of an opportunity to get there. Or it maybe pushes the ball out toward a DB who is better able to make a play on the ball. Reggie did go on to add that Joe's inability to make the play, at times, has caused it to seem like he is just a fuck up out there(my words, not Reggie's). So while we all know that Joe wasn't a great Linebacker, maybe he was not as bad as everyone would like us to think, either?

 

[FDNYIrish1]

This kid represents everything I love about college football. I've been pretty fair about judging his shortcomings as a player, but he's a damn fine representative of the program and busted his ass every week on the field. I wish him all the best in the future, this kid is going to do great things. I would have given anything to accomplish what he has as a player and student for this university that I love. Thanks Joe!

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Great kid, great rep for ND. Hope they can figure out the LB's in total next year. Big ?

Really don't need to wish him good luck on his future, it will be 100% successful!!

Good luck anyways, thanks for being a good role model for the many kids looking at ND for being a great place!!

Go Irish!

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Joe Schmidt symbolizes what is wrong with ND.

A bunch on nice hard working guys are not going to hang with deer antlered thugs.

We can have all the Joes, Coreys, and Maxs in the world.

But we won't win a natty with them.

 

[arndtjc]

Joe Schmidt symbolizes what is wrong with ND.

A bunch on nice hard working guys are not going to hang with deer antlered thugs.

We can have all the Joes, Coreys, and Maxs in the world.

But we won't win a natty with them.

And you are all that is wrong in the world of college football fandom. If you want to cheer for a bunch of thugs, pick an SEC team. I'd watch ND football for the rest of my life without seeing them win a Natty as long as they continue getting the RKGs, and running the program the right way.

Exit stage left, sir


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[ulukinatme]

Joe Schmidt symbolizes what is wrong with ND.

A bunch on nice hard working guys are not going to hang with deer antlered thugs.

We can have all the Joes, Coreys, and Maxs in the world.

But we won't win a natty with them.

And you are all that is wrong in the world of college football fandom. If you want to cheer for a bunch of thugs, pick an SEC team. I'd watch ND football for the rest of my life without seeing them win a Natty as long as they continue getting the RKGs, and running the program the right way.

Exit stage left, sir


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Someone else rep jared.arndt besides me, please. Pretty spot on. Joe symbolizes everything that is right with ND. Maybe he's not as athletic as Jaylon, or whatever stud Alabama trots out at MLB each year, but the kid wasn't dogging it out there. Joe doesn't symbolize anything negative about the university. It's hard to win a natty, and we do no favors for ourselves with the academic requirements. Still, I would rather our university bring in the right kinds of players that want to be academically successful and take advantage of a quality education, rather than bring in a bunch of Greg Bryants that don't take school seriously and are only looking to exploit the system to get on the football field.

 

[irishff1014]

Joe Schmidt symbolizes what is wrong with ND.

A bunch on nice hard working guys are not going to hang with deer antlered thugs.

We can have all the Joes, Coreys, and Maxs in the world.

But we won't win a natty with them.

i said in another thread i doubt we ever win another national championship.

 

[NDRock]

Reggie Brooks made an interesting observation about Joe, on the postgame show:

Reggie has been PLENTY critical of Joe all year long, but he said that the one thing that no one is talking about is how Joe is always in the correct position. He doesn't always make the play, but he is always following his responsibility for the play. According to Reggie, that's been a problem with some of the other linebackers; they do too much freelancing, and leave their assignment uncovered. Reggie said that Schmidt has actually POSITIVELY influenced a bunch of plays, just by being in the right spot. Because a QB will have to move on to the next progression, simply because he sees a blue (or white, or green) jersey in the area that he would be throwing to. So that causes the QB to hold on to the ball a little longer, which gives the rush more of an opportunity to get there. Or it maybe pushes the ball out toward a DB who is better able to make a play on the ball. Reggie did go on to add that Joe's inability to make the play, at times, has caused it to seem like he is just a fuck up out there(my words, not Reggie's). So while we all know that Joe wasn't a great Linebacker, maybe he was not as bad as everyone would like us to think, either?

I think this is fair. Most of the criticism about Joe is his lack of play-making ability (such as taking on blockers). He obviously knows what he should be doing, he just can't do it often enough (as evidenced by his low tackle numbers on the year). To me, I wonder why guys are freelancing. Lack of discipline? Lack of understanding the scheme? Something is amiss in this defense and it better get fixed this offseason or next year will be a disappointing year.

 

[TheChosen1]

Reggie Brooks made an interesting observation about Joe, on the postgame show:

Reggie has been PLENTY critical of Joe all year long, but he said that the one thing that no one is talking about is how Joe is always in the correct position. He doesn't always make the play, but he is always following his responsibility for the play. According to Reggie, that's been a problem with some of the other linebackers; they do too much freelancing, and leave their assignment uncovered. Reggie said that Schmidt has actually POSITIVELY influenced a bunch of plays, just by being in the right spot. Because a QB will have to move on to the next progression, simply because he sees a blue (or white, or green) jersey in the area that he would be throwing to. So that causes the QB to hold on to the ball a little longer, which gives the rush more of an opportunity to get there. Or it maybe pushes the ball out toward a DB who is better able to make a play on the ball. Reggie did go on to add that Joe's inability to make the play, at times, has caused it to seem like he is just a fuck up out there(my words, not Reggie's). So while we all know that Joe wasn't a great Linebacker, maybe he was not as bad as everyone would like us to think, either?

Don't know how much of an interesting observation this is.

We've been saying this all year. No one really questioned Joe's football intelligence they questioned his football skill.

 

[OCIrish]

Don't know how much of an interesting observation this is.

We've been saying this all year. No one really questioned Joe's football intelligence they questioned his football skill.

^^^^^^^This.......and I cannot rep you enough!!!!!

 

[Domina Nostra]

The person no one is asking about is ... Elston.

 

[kmoose]

Don't know how much of an interesting observation this is.

We've been saying this all year. No one really questioned Joe's football intelligence they questioned his football skill.

Its interesting because, according to Reggie, a guy who actually PLAYED defense at Notre Dame(and therefore is knowledgeable on the subject); Joe Schmidt was in there all season long for reasons OTHER than "he can get everyone lined up right before the snap" or because "he is a coaches' favorite". And that is certainly something that has NOT been noted all year long on this board.

 

[TheChosen1]

Alright this guy is using capital letters he must be serious.


Can we get a thread lock over here. This guys career at Notre Dame is over.

 

[Grahambo]

Its interesting because, according to Reggie, a guy who actually PLAYED defense at Notre Dame(and therefore is knowledgeable on the subject); Joe Schmidt was in there all season long for reasons OTHER than "he can get everyone lined up right before the snap" or because "he is a coaches' favorite". And that is certainly something that has NOT been noted all year long on this board.

Don't need to have played defense at Notre Dame to be knowledgeable on the subject. Schmidt has been overmatched since his leg injury. It happens. His football IQ has not been questioned and if it has been, then not by me. I get it, nobody wants to pile on but being honest about someone is just that, being honest.

 

[kmoose]

Don't need to have played defense at Notre Dame to be knowledgeable on the subject. Schmidt has been overmatched since his leg injury. It happens. His football IQ has not been questioned and if it has been, then not by me. I get it, nobody wants to pile on but being honest about someone is just that, being honest.

He questioned what made it an interesting observation, and I answered. I threw the part about Reggie having played in there simply to establish the credentials of the person I was referencing. This is a board where some people didn't even know who Terry Hanratty was, so it's not unreasonable to think that maybe there are people on here who are unaware that, while Brooks made his name as a tailback, he played(and earned a monogram) at DB in his freshman year. It wasn't meant to be anything personal.

 

[BobbyMac]

I got to talk with Joe's dad for a while on NYE. I wish there were more people like him raising more kids like Joe. The Joe I'll remember will be last year's pre-injury version and when I want to express my frustration about ND's MLB play, it won't be directed at Joe but at the HS All American's on the bench who weren't good enough to take the walk on's spot. Joe did all he could every game. It's not his fault the back ups, recruiting, scheme and coaching left a post injury Joe as the #1 option.

Thanks Joe for a great Notre Dame story.

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[Grahambo]

He questioned what made it an interesting observation, and I answered. I threw the part about Reggie having played in there simply to establish the credentials of the person I was referencing. This is a board where some people didn't even know who Terry Hanratty was, so it's not unreasonable to think that maybe there are people on here who are unaware that, while Brooks made his name as a tailback, he played(and earned a monogram) at DB in his freshman year. It wasn't meant to be anything personal.

 

[Irish_Passion]

will always respect Joe's hard work and willingness to lay it all in the line for ND. You can't teach the passion that this guy has/had.

That being said, I can't say I will not be excited to see the next man in behind Joe. I yelled at the tv a lot this year cause of Joe and I'm hopeful that we actually get a chance to see if somebody else can perform.

 

[ulukinatme]

The person no one is asking about is ... Elston.

I'm not sure which one has accomplished less with the talent they've had, Booker or Elston. We saw some improvements on the DL in one year under Gilmore, but we saw Joe possibly take a step back this year under Elston and no noticeable gains among the other players imo. On the other hand, Booker has had just as much talent or more to work with at TE and we continue to under utilitze that position.

 

[dad4aa]

I got to talk with Joe's dad for a while on NYE. I wish there were more people like him raising more kids like Joe. The Joe I'll remember will be last year's pre-injury version and when I want to express my frustration about ND's MLB play, it won't be directed at Joe but at the HS All American's on the bench who weren't good enough to take the walk on's spot. Joe did all he could every game. It's not his fault the back ups, recruiting, scheme and coaching left a post injury Joe as the #1 option.

Thanks Joe for a great Notre Dame story.

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Nice post Crusader. My only problem with all the Joe bashing is...it's at the wrong person. If I was the lesser of the LBs on the team and the coach wanted to play me, I would play. Joe gave 100% at all times and did his best...with the skill set he has. Much like Tommy did at QB. Why are we complaining about a guy who gave everything he had every minute of every practice and game. If he didn't have the skills...he didn't have the skills. Like someone else said, be pissed at the effort (or lack of effort) of the other scholarship players that couldn't beat him out. Thanks Joe for being part of ND football.

 

[nd1989]

I got to talk with Joe's dad for a while on NYE. I wish there were more people like him raising more kids like Joe. The Joe I'll remember will be last year's pre-injury version and when I want to express my frustration about ND's MLB play, it won't be directed at Joe but at the HS All American's on the bench who weren't good enough to take the walk on's spot. Joe did all he could every game. It's not his fault the back ups, recruiting, scheme and coaching left a post injury Joe as the #1 option.

Thanks Joe for a great Notre Dame story.

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Great post. That is the real question -- where is the player development when a 5th year converted walkon post serious injury can beat out all other MLBs.