All Things Star Wars (No Spoilers)

[IrishLion]

I'm inclined to say that I liked Ep. 2 a little more because Portman was pretty hot.

There is a legitimate argument to be made that Episode II is the best of all, simply because of dat all-white outfit tho.

 

[wizards8507]

The movies are better if you believe in Darth Jar Jar...

I actually watched last night with that in mind and I'm not buying it (not that I was in the first place). There are a number of occasions where Jar Jar does dumb stuff when he's completely alone. There's no reason he'd keep up the simpleton act without an audience he's trying to deceive. I might buy that he's force-sensitive because of the amount of good luck he has and the fact that the Force brought him to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, but a Sith Lord he is not.

Also, Rule of Two.

There is a legitimate argument to be made that Episode II is the best of all, simply because of dat all-white outfit tho.

Had to Google a creep-check real quick. She's indeed 21 in that movie so we're all good.

 

[BeauBenken]

There is a legitimate argument to be made that Episode II is the best of all, simply because of dat all-white outfit tho.

And when it tears. Hubba hubba.

 

[IrishLax]

After today, I'm literally forswearing the internet until Sunday to ensure I don't see spoilers.

 

[tussin]

After today, I'm literally forswearing the internet until Sunday to ensure I don't see spoilers.

IE will be one of my few internet destinations until I see the movie. Definitely avoiding all forms of social media.

 

[gkIrish]

In case anyone missed it yesterday, I created a separate thread for anyone who wants to discuss their thoughts/reactions about the movie:

Force Awakens Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

If you post spoilers in this thread, I consider that ban-worthy. Warned, you have been.

 

[BeauBenken]

I actually watched last night with that in mind and I'm not buying it (not that I was in the first place). There are a number of occasions where Jar Jar does dumb stuff when he's completely alone. There's no reason he'd keep up the simpleton act without an audience he's trying to deceive. I might buy that he's force-sensitive because of the amount of good luck he has and the fact that the Force brought him to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, but a Sith Lord he is not.

Also, Rule of Two.

Rule of Two has been broken before though.

As well, when is Jar Jar ever really alone?

 

[wizards8507]

If you post spoilers in this thread, I consider that ban-worthy. Warned, you have been.

He was dead the whole time.

Fredo did it.

Snape kills Dumbledore.

 

[gkIrish]

He was dead the whole time.

Fredo did it.

Snape kills Dumbledore.

Just don't tell me what's in the box and we are cool.

 

[wizards8507]

Rule of Two has been broken before though.

In Canon? When?

As well, when is Jar Jar ever really alone?

Not "alone" per se, but without an audience. An example is when the battle droid gets stuck to his flipper and he flaps it around, causing the blaster to misfire and kill other charging battle droids.

 

[gkIrish]

People on Facebook already spoiling things. Wtf is wrong with people? I guess I can only visit IE until Saturday morning.

 

[IrishLion]

People on Facebook already spoiling things. Wtf is wrong with people? I guess I can only visit IE until Saturday morning.

Delete those people.

I'm proud of both my Facebook and Twitter news feeds, because everyone has joined the "no spoilers!" movement.

 

[tussin]

In Canon? When?


Not "alone" per se, but without an audience. An example is when the battle droid gets stuck to his flipper and he flaps it around, causing the blaster to misfire and kill other charging battle droids.

In the Jar Jar reddit thread, the poster uses that same scene as a supporting point for why he could be a Sith specializing in Drunken Fist martial arts. He does show amazing coordination, dodging incoming lasers while shooting the blaster with accuracy.

 

[FearTheBeard]

People on Facebook already spoiling things. Wtf is wrong with people? I guess I can only visit IE until Saturday morning.

Thats bullshit, id be so mad. I saw on reddit some people were apparently spoiling it too so im afraid to get on there. Times like these make me glad i dont have social media

 

[BeauBenken]

In Canon? When?

Not "alone" per se, but without an audience. An example is when the battle droid gets stuck to his flipper and he flaps it around, causing the blaster to misfire and kill other charging battle droids.

Dooku had an apprentice during the Clone Wars, Asajj Ventress.

Enraged by the loss and bereft of guidance, Ventress embraced the dark side of the Force, deposing the local warlords and ruling in their stead. She was eventually discovered by the Sith Lord Count Dooku and fell under his guidance and tutelage as an apprentice and aspiring Dark Lord.

Asajj Ventress - Wookieepedia - Wikia

And Jar Jar is still in the presence of others in that scene. He can't suddenly act suave.

You really have to look at why he's present in a lot of scenes. A lot of times, it seems like there's no good reason, and that's because there isn't. There is only possible bad intention. He spends a lot of time around Anakin and Padme. As well, he convinces Qui-Gon to let him do a lot of crap that he has no business doing.

I would be completely shocked if Jar Jar actually was a Sith when all is said and done, but the idea that he has the force is certainly not out of question. Too many things point to it once you actually watch that movie closely. (And in those scenes of proof, his motives often look bad.)

 

[wizards8507]

Dooku had an apprentice during the Clone Wars, Asajj Ventress.

Asajj Ventress was an apprentice, not The Apprentice. She wasn't a Sith. People mistakenly make the assumption that anyone with a red lightsaber is a Sith, but that's not true. Only two there are. No more, no less. There are inquisitors running all over the place in Rebels, but they're not Sith either.

And Jar Jar is still in the presence of others in that scene. He can't suddenly act suave.

You really have to look at why he's present in a lot of scenes. A lot of times, it seems like there's no good reason, and that's because there isn't. There is only possible bad intention. He spends a lot of time around Anakin and Padme. As well, he convinces Qui-Gon to let him do a lot of crap that he has no business doing.

I would be completely shocked if Jar Jar actually was a Sith when all is said and done, but the idea that he has the force is certainly not out of question. Too many things point to it once you actually watch that movie closely. (And in those scenes of proof, his motives often look bad.)

Like I said, I actually buy the argument that he's force-sensitive. But I don't think anything he does is on purpose. Like Anakin when he pod races, he wields the force inadvertently, but it shows up as luck.

 

[BeauBenken]

Asajj Ventress was an apprentice, not The Apprentice. She wasn't a Sith. People mistakenly make the assumption that anyone with a red lightsaber is a Sith, but that's not true. Only two there are. No more, no less. There are inquisitors running all over the place in Rebels, but they're not Sith either.

So with this, what makes you think that necesarrily anyone else was a Sith. Just because people thought they were THE Sith, does not make them THE Sith.

Because for supposed Sith lords, those guys all tend to die pretty easily. (Or never become fully evil.)

 

[wizards8507]

So with this, what makes you think that necesarrily anyone else was a Sith. Just because people thought they were THE Sith, does not make them THE Sith.

Because for supposed Sith lords, those guys all tend to die pretty easily. (Or never become fully evil.)

The Jar-Jar-is-the-Phantom-Menace theory places him above Sidious in the hierarchy. If Sidious is The Apprentice, that means Darth Vader was never an actual Sith. That's ridiculous because 1) non-Sith don't get the title "Darth," and 2) come on.

 

[Cackalacky]

In the Jar Jar reddit thread, the poster uses that same scene as a supporting point for why he could be a Sith specializing in Drunken Fist martial arts. He does show amazing coordination, dodging incoming lasers while shooting the blaster with accuracy.

Just quoting you to stay on topic here...

For anyone who watches Clone Wars the tv show it's obvious Jar Jar is a bumbling child like buffoon. No way he is a dark Lord of the Sith. Everything he does is in the light of dumb luck and happenstance. Even in his brief moments where he feigns dignity and stoicism, you can't help but think. ..."man what a douche bag."

 

[IrishLion]

The Jar-Jar-is-the-Phantom-Menace theory places him above Sidious in the hierarchy. If Sidious is The Apprentice, that means Darth Vader was never an actual Sith. That's ridiculous because 1) non-Sith don't get the title "Darth," and 2) come on.

Idk, it all kind of feels like "patch work" at times.

Like how Sidious replaces Darth Maul with Count Dooku over the course of 10 years. It works based on the timeline, but come on... he picks the oldest, least intimidating dude he could? Dooku is obviously powerful, but there was NOBODY else he could have gotten on short notice? Was Dooku just waiting in the wings for his chance to be a Sith? Was it supreme coincidence, and just so happened to work out that Sidious got lucky that Dooku was disgruntled?

What happens to Dooku if Darth Maul doesn't die? What happens to Dooku AND Darth Maul if Anakin decides to convert willingly, when he's being an annoying teenager?

 

[Cackalacky]

You guys are giving Lucas way too much credit here.

 

[Cackalacky]

I mean I just watched Clone Wars Season 1 where Dooku, Skywalker, and Kenobi are captured by Honda. JAR JAR is on clone rescue ship (Why?) with the ransom.
Randomly he leaves his jump seat in the storage area, stumbles to a hallway, falls against the wall which causes him to push a button that causes the copilot seat in the cockpit above to sink down into the hall. Jar Jar falls in his lap. The seat then rises back into the cockpit where Jar Jar causes disruption because it is a two person cockpit. The ship is promptly shot down due to the distracted pilots. The rest of the episode is the clones being pissed and having to deal with the results of having Jar Jar in the group.

Every episode with Jar Jar in it is like this. He is a potato.

 

[pkt77242]

Idk, it all kind of feels like "patch work" at times.

Like how Sidious replaces Darth Maul with Count Dooku over the course of 10 years. It works based on the timeline, but come on... he picks the oldest, least intimidating dude he could? Dooku is obviously powerful, but there was NOBODY else he could have gotten on short notice? Was Dooku just waiting in the wings for his chance to be a Sith? Was it supreme coincidence, and just so happened to work out that Sidious got lucky that Dooku was disgruntled?

What happens to Dooku if Darth Maul doesn't die? What happens to Dooku AND Darth Maul if Anakin decides to convert willingly, when he's being an annoying teenager?

Dooku - Wookieepedia - Wikia

Dooku was disgruntled and Sidious took advantage of it. Dooku was a Jedi Master, and was disgruntled and easy to turn to the dark side. That seems like the perfect person to take on as an apprentice.

 

[BeauBenken]

The Jar-Jar-is-the-Phantom-Menace theory places him above Sidious in the hierarchy. If Sidious is The Apprentice, that means Darth Vader was never an actual Sith. That's ridiculous because 1) non-Sith don't get the title "Darth," and 2) come on.

Siths work in the way of deception.

And like I said, was Vader ever truly set in the ways of evil?

(I really like how we've turned this into a Darth Jar Jar thread.)

I don't think any of us ACTUALLY believe or think it will happen, but some of us can see it. (Let's call us the Kenobis.) And some of you can't. (You're the Qui-Gons.)

 

[IrishLion]

Kind of a cool thing to do if you're bored and you use Spotify:

Spotify Star Wars

I got Anakin Skywalker due to my "Punk Rock" and "Pop Punk" listening habits.

I should actually probably be whichever character results from listening to Hip-Hop, but I don't actually use their Hip-Hop radio stations; I just craft my own playlists. I assume this comes from the radio stations that you use.

 

[gkIrish]

Kind of a cool thing to do if you're bored and you use Spotify:

Spotify Star Wars

I got Anakin Skywalker due to my "Punk Rock" and "Pop Punk" listening habits.

I should actually probably be whichever character results from listening to Hip-Hop, but I don't actually use their Hip-Hop radio stations; I just craft my own playlists. I assume this comes from the radio stations that you use.

I got BB-8 lol

 

[IrishLion]

I got BB-8 lol

What did it pick out as your listening habits?

 

[wizards8507]

Kind of a cool thing to do if you're bored and you use Spotify:

Spotify Star Wars

I got Anakin Skywalker due to my "Punk Rock" and "Pop Punk" listening habits.

I should actually probably be whichever character results from listening to Hip-Hop, but I don't actually use their Hip-Hop radio stations; I just craft my own playlists. I assume this comes from the radio stations that you use.

I didn't have a Spotify account so it had me pick five artists from a pre-selected list. The list was really weak but I picked Johnny Cash, Adele, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, and The Killers. Got Anakin as well.

 

[gkIrish]

What did it pick out as your listening habits?

I think eclectic and hip hop?

 

[Irish#1]

Dooku had an apprentice during the Clone Wars, Asajj Ventress.



And Jar Jar is still in the presence of others in that scene. He can't suddenly act suave.

You really have to look at why he's present in a lot of scenes. A lot of times, it seems like there's no good reason, and that's because there isn't. There is only possible bad intention. He spends a lot of time around Anakin and Padme. As well, he convinces Qui-Gon to let him do a lot of crap that he has no business doing.

I would be completely shocked if Jar Jar actually was a Sith when all is said and done, but the idea that he has the force is certainly not out of question. Too many things point to it once you actually watch that movie closely. (And in those scenes of proof, his motives often look bad.)

Asajj Ventress was an apprentice, not The Apprentice. She wasn't a Sith. People mistakenly make the assumption that anyone with a red lightsaber is a Sith, but that's not true. Only two there are. No more, no less. There are inquisitors running all over the place in Rebels, but they're not Sith either.


Like I said, I actually buy the argument that he's force-sensitive. But I don't think anything he does is on purpose. Like Anakin when he pod races, he wields the force inadvertently, but it shows up as luck.

Okay, you guys are officially nerds.