'13 PA WR Will Fuller (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[zelezo vlk]

Will is a guy that could land and be a good fit just about anywhere. As long as his QB doesn't have a noodle arm.

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[IrishFanJMercy]

If Fuller leaves could the starting WR's unit be St. Brown, Hunter Jr. and Boykin?

 

[RDU Irish]

I think Hunter is our next WR superstar. Kid is a straight up baller.

Perriman is quite a bit bigger than Fuller and that counts for a lot. His drops put him late first round and were the biggest question mark.

Dorsett was a slot guy, much thicker build even though he is shorter.

If Fuller puts up a sub-4.4 forty (which we all have little doubt in) he will still have a hard time breaking the first round. His frame is just too slight, IMO.

 

[NDdomer2]

If Fuller leaves could the starting WR's unit be St. Brown, Hunter Jr. and Boykin?

You are going to see some combination of Hunter Jr., St. Brown, Robinson on a regular basis. Sanders will get his chances to touch the rock as well.

Boykin may get some time next year but I dont see him starting.

 

[ThePiombino]

silver lining in this IF it happens....could help w/ us landing Demetrius

This is what I will be praying for tonight.

If Fuller leaves could the starting WR's unit be St. Brown, Hunter Jr. and Boykin?

I don't see Boykin starting over CRob. Calling it right now - CRob vs. [insert young, talented WR here] will be next year's Schmidt vs. Morgan.

You are going to see some combination of Hunter Jr., St. Brown, Robinson on a regular basis. Sanders will get his chances to touch the rock as well.

Boykin may get some time next year but I dont see him starting.

^^^ All of this.

 

[rocket66]

His size is the biggest issue, imo. He definitely needs one more year to put on good weight and refine his route running/catching skills before he's ready for an NFL pounding.


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[PANDFAN]

His size is the biggest issue, imo. He definitely needs one more year to put on good weight and refine his route running/catching skills before he's ready for an NFL pounding.


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he is NOT putting on more weight...he hasn't changed in 2 years...his route running is actually great....now catching the ball w/ his hands, i can def jump on board w/ that..but he can also do that on his own time

 

[OCIrish]

Will Fuller to the Pats is my biggest fear.

With talk like that, I'd ban you if I could........just sayin

 

[RDU Irish]

he is NOT putting on more weight...he hasn't changed in 2 years...his route running is actually great....now catching the ball w/ his hands, i can def jump on board w/ that..but he can also do that on his own time

Which is why I have a hard time seeing him dramatically improve his draft stock. How many WRs under 180 pounds are flashing around the NFL? It is an outlier variable that is hard to ignore when using your premium draft selections. I am not convinced hands can be dramatically improved, kind of you have it or you don't thing. Since that is not on the table (IMO) what can he really improve on?

As such, I don't fault him for going pro - his stock is probably not going to improve a ton. Looking at dominant NFL receivers, he really doesn't fit the mold and I am not blowing my first round pick someone with potential to be just that.

 

[koonja]

I honestly don't think he's going to be a good pro. I think he bounces around for a few years and struggles to stick. NFL has zero patience for WRs that are thin and can't catch over the middle. Dropping balls in college gets brushed under the table, NFL teams have no time for it. Prove me wrong Will! Get your money!

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

This would be tragic. I prefer to root for ND grads once they're in the NFL. I can't root for Tuitt right now because he dons the black and yellow.

I don't think you'll have to worry that much about him being a Steeler. They have other much more pressing areas of concern like DBs, TE (Miller is near the end), and possibly OT if they don't resign Beachum. Now if Fuller drops to the third I could see them drafting him but they already have Coates as their fifth receiver and he's not even getting playing time as their third round pick from last year. I actually think WR is their best position.

Good luck to Fuller, he had a great year.

 

[irishfan]

Will Fuller to the Pats is my biggest fear.

Won't happen. Not with with the Fuhrer taking away their 1st rounder. No way Belichick will trade up or use his late 2nd rounder on an undersized (albeit freakishly fast) WR.

I bet he goes in the 2nd round. He is very similar to Devin Smith. I do think he would be a lock for the 1st round if he returns though. The QB situation can only get better. If ESB can step up across from him and Hunter can progress in the slot, Fuller is going to get so many more opportunities.

 

[RDU Irish]

I honestly don't think he's going to be a good pro. I think he bounces around for a few years and struggles to stick. NFL has zero patience for WRs that are thin and can't catch over the middle. Dropping balls in college gets brushed under the table, NFL teams have no time for it. Prove me wrong Will! Get your money!

Well, you just talked me into thinking he should definitely stay. Big production, staying healthy in a big time program and ridiculous combine numbers can only improve his draft stock. He probably needs to get as much upfront as possible given high chance of "not playing for a second contract". He isn't getting KR or PR duties but that would be one thing I see adding draft value - breaking a couple off would be big for him.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Now we get to worry about Corey Robinson starting instead. Unless they move Hunter to the outside and Sanders gets the slot reps.

Corey won't be starting over ESB (assuming a full recovery). Kelly has been effusive in his praise of the young man, sometimes without being prompted. I know Kelly throws around superlatives but he's been adamant the only reason ESB isn't starting as a true frosh is because....Will.

silver lining in this IF it happens....could help w/ us landing Demetrius

I hope that's the case but I won't count on it. I think we have some studs on this roster already. Maybe not with Will's straight line speed, but plenty of weapons for next year although Demetrius would be very welcomed.

Fuller has been sensational all year, I don't think he's higher than a 2nd round pick but if he has the itch, I don't want him to make a decision he regrets: either going or staying. Hope he takes his time and figures out what he wants.

I'm sure Kelly and Sanford and Denbrock will be working on their 2nd straight year of 6 star recruiting.

 

[beryirish]

Did Corey Holmes get chewed up by the bench?

 

[Cackalacky]

Now we get to worry about Corey Robinson starting instead. Unless they move Hunter to the outside and Sanders gets the slot reps.

IIRC Robinson was behind Brown and ESB was behind Fuller this past season. So ESB, Hunter, Robinson are the three starters unless something shakes it up. I expect CJ to be behind Hunter in the slot. Not sure who backs up ESB. I also do no think Robinson takes all the snaps ala Fuller. Whoever is behind him should get significant minutes.

 

[ThePiombino]

IIRC Robinson was behind Brown and ESB was behind Fuller this past season. So ESB, Hunter, Robinson are the three starters unless something shakes it up. I expect CJ to be behind Hunter in the slot. Not sure who backs up ESB. I also do no think Robinson takes all the snaps ala Fuller. Whoever is behind him should get significant minutes.

Only thing we KNOW, I think lol, is that Hunter will be a starter. We don't know that ESB will A) be effective both as a young player and coming off a shoulder injury. We also have no idea what the other outside WR two-deep will look like. Do we see Brent re-emerge? Holmes? Boykins? Guyton?

 

[Cackalacky]

Only thing we KNOW, I think lol, is that Hunter will be a starter. We don't know that ESB will A) be effective both as a young player and coming off a shoulder injury. We also have no idea what the other outside WR two-deep will look like. Do we see Brent re-emerge? Holmes? Boykins? Guyton?

Obviously....its only December. ESB could be implicated in a pay for play scandal, Robinson could actually be regressing further because of how serious he takes his academics and Brent and Holmes could both transfer... Its early.

 

[ThePiombino]

Obviously....its only December. ESB could be implicated in a pay for play scandal, Robinson could actually be regressing further because of how serious he takes his academics and Brent and Holmes could both transfer... Its early.

I don't mean to say we only know because it's so early. I just mean in terms of reliable, proven talent, I feel like only Hunter has really broken through this year. CRob inexplicably has taken a step back and the rest have barely seen the field, if at all. I know we have a lot of talent on paper, but I'm not so sure we have any reason to be confident that will translate to the field just yet. Good thing

 

[irishfan]

He should look at the steps that Jones/Brown made from their junior to senior years and think strongly about staying. Not only will his game naturally improve in his 4th year, but BK seems to trust/reward seniors pretty substantially.

 

[koonja]

I don't think Will Fuller changes his draft stock much by adding 5 LBs in the offseason, and I don't think he all of a sudden discovers hands. So I think his decision should strongly rely on where he is projected this year vs. next year according to the WRs coming out each year. And I have no idea if 2016 or 2017 draft is deeper, but that's what he should look at IMO.

 

[IrishLion]

I don't think Will Fuller changes his draft stock much by adding 5 LBs in the offseason, and I don't think he all of a sudden discovers hands. So I think his decision should strongly rely on where he is projected this year vs. next year according to the WRs coming out each year. And I have no idea if 2016 or 2017 draft is deeper, but that's what he should look at IMO.

I agree with this logic. His hands aren't going to get better on the easy catches. He's always going to be a guy that might drop a few passes. His route-running is fine. And the quality that will get him into the NFL, his speed, isn't going to change between now and next season (if it did, god help any defender at either level that has him in man coverage). It really should just depend on the outlook of the position in terms of this year and next year's drafts.

 

[Buster Bluth]

IIRC Robinson was behind Brown and ESB was behind Fuller this past season. So ESB, Hunter, Robinson are the three starters unless something shakes it up. I expect CJ to be behind Hunter in the slot. Not sure who backs up ESB. I also do no think Robinson takes all the snaps ala Fuller. Whoever is behind him should get significant minutes.

I think they move Hunter out of the slot and the starting three are St. Brown, Hunter, and Sanders with Robinson, Boykin, etc being the backups.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Am I crazy to think that torii could be very productive in wills spot?

I know wild got crazy wheels but they just remind me alot of each other

 

[dwshade]

He's a 3rd rd pick at this point I believe. I basically see him as Desean Jackson without the drama.

He's an early 2nd rounder.

 

[rtrn2glory]

He's Devin Smith

 

[ThePiombino]

I think they move Hunter out of the slot and the starting three are St. Brown, Hunter, and Sanders with Robinson, Boykin, etc being the backups.

Hoping so. I like Hunter on the outside better. He's fast, but not overly quick. Sanders should really excel there, tho.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I think they move Hunter out of the slot and the starting three are St. Brown, Hunter, and Sanders with Robinson, Boykin, etc being the backups.

VDP approves this message. I really like the sound of that group on the field. With Alize and Smythe 1a & 1b as TEs.

Sure sounds like a lot of weapons for Kizer to choose from.

 

[anarin]

Reading back to the beginning is hilarious. Armchair coaches wanting him at corner ��

Ahh memories and all the awesome scouts that post here .

 

[koonja]

Reading back to the beginning is hilarious. Armchair coaches wanting him at corner ��

Ahh memories and all the awesome scouts that post here .

I wonder if he'd actually project better at CB in the NFL. Can't catch, has the speed, hips, and size wouldn't be an issue. I wasn't part of the predictions but I don't think they're that crazy.