College Football Playoff Rankings 2015 (ND #8...)

[ShawneeIrish]

No one can cry foul at the committee. If ND did what they were supposed to do against Wake and particularly BC, they'd be 3rd. We struggle to put away inferior teams every week and it finally caught up with us. We should have beaten Pitt by a lot more. We should have crushed BC. It goes on and on.

Take care of business and this problem never pops up. As it stands, our only shot is OU losing now. We no longer control our own fate. Disappointed but I saw this coming from a mile away. People are looking way too much into that head to head vs Texas BS. It doesn't matter.

I agree with most of this but we could also get in if the B1G self destructs. Iowa could lose to Nebraska and MSU could lose to PSU or Iowa.

 

[rocket66]

Who cares about the two Big10 teams? We are essentially 5th because 4 and 5 will knock each other out of that spot anyway. It's an all out OU-ND battle for that last spot.


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[Kingbish01]

The committee is looking for the best 4 teams, let's be honest here...We are not one of the best 4 teams, it is what it is. We may be better than Iowa, but the team that slipped past UVA, Temple and BC is not better than MSU, OU, Baylor, or OSU. Off to buy Peach Bowl tickets.

 

[EifertPower]

Now we did have something to do with this, playin so poorly. However we were solidly at 4 (per Long) and Oklahoma beat a team that with those injuries isn't even top 25 and did so by the slightest of margin. Also, Long just said that at the end of the season they'll look at the full body of work to find the best 4 teams, right now. Well don't those two things contrast each other.

Agreed. The top of the Big 12 are being treated like the SEC where they get credit for beating each other. But to be fair, Oklahoma didn't fumble the ball 7 times and throw 3 interceptions. Our effort on Saturday night with the nation watching was epically atrocious.

 

[philipm31]

Atta boy Johnny!

So that is our best W?

What TOP TEN Win does ND have? NONE. ZERO. NADA.

OU has 2, and if they beat OSU, then it will be 3.

You will be unpleasantly surprised when ND gets shut out, even if we beat Stanford. If it is NOT convincing, OU can scrape by OSU and have a better argument. I am talking about BEST WINS. NONE of ND's wins compare. The ONLY thing that we have that is "better" is our loss, which should have been a fucking win for ND.

 

[dang227]

The committee is looking for the best 4 teams, let's be honest here...We are not one of the best 4 teams, it is what it is. We may be better than Iowa, but the team that slipped past UVA, Temple and BC is not better than MSU, OU, Baylor, or OSU. Off to buy Peach Bowl tickets.

I would put a rested ND vs Iowa, OK or MSU any day of the week. We may not be top four but honestly who is this year?


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[gkIrish]

All we need is Oklahoma St. to win at home and to beat Stanford.

 

[irishff1014]

Oh yeah and what if Clemson loses this Saturday or next Saturday? Or Alabama loses this Saturday or next Saturday?

I doubt either of those happen.

 

[irishfanjho15]

I think Oklahoma is overrated but still ND has no one to blame but themselves, their effort against BC was embarrassing and as I said at the time, it was the worst game in ND history given what was at stake . It's been clear the past two years, style points does matter and the committee doesn't care about good losses or cupcake wins, only how many quality wins.

If we beat Stanford and finish 11-1 then it was a heck of a season and we'll have a chance to get in the Final Four.

Were you not alive in 1993?

That was a sure fire title before BC's field goal. A piece of me died, piece of an 8-year child died that day. So let's not get out of control with acting like some win against BC in 2015 was the worst game in 127 years of ND football.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[KPENN]

So that is our best W?

What TOP TEN Win does ND have? NONE. ZERO. NADA.

OU has 2, and if they beat OSU, then it will be 3.

You will be unpleasantly surprised when ND gets shut out, even if we beat Stanford. If it is NOT convincing, OU can scrape by OSU and have a better argument. I am talking about BEST WINS. NONE of ND's wins compare. The ONLY thing that we have that is "better" is our loss, which should have been a fucking win for ND.

Bama has zero too.

Iowa doesn't have one either.

 

[Circa]

It's a conspiracy!! The committee wants to add viewers and showmanship means a hell of a lot in this Illuminati. Don't think that we are a sure bet but they will undoubtedly take us over OU If they can find cause.. . and they will If we WIN this Saturday!! Giddy Up boys.. It just got real!

 

[rocket66]

Remember they said 3-8 took a lot of re-votes. This is all much much closer than most believe.


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[Irish2155]

If ND goes 11-1 losing to the top team in the country on the road by 2 in a monsoon and can't make the top 4??? The playoff system would most certainly expand.

Just beat a top 10 Stanford team on the road. By double digits would be nice but a win will due.

 

[philipm31]

LOL COME ON! No one and I mean no one could have watched the last 2 games and say this is a Playoff team. Stop it. If they win Sat, there's a chance but stop it with the theories.

As I just said, ND NEEDS TO BE UNBEATEN just to be in the discussion as one of the top teams in the country. All you have to do is look at 2012 and all the discussion they were having about how UNWORTHY ND was of their ranking despite being the only unbeaten in the entire nation.

Not beating Clemson when we could have done so would eliminate all this discussion...and yes we should have beaten them, handily.

 

[Kingbish01]

I would put a rested ND vs Iowa, OK or MSU any day of the week. We may not be top four but honestly who is this year?


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The committee almost got it right, they shows Iowa love for being undefeated. The 4 best teams are Clem, BAMA, Oklahoma, and MSU all 4 would be deserving if the playoff started tonight.

 

[EifertPower]

Were you not alive in 1993?

That was a sure fire title before BC's field goal. A piece of me died, piece of an 8-year child died that day. So let's not get out of control with acting like some win against BC in 2015 was the worst game in 127 years of ND football.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Fair point. I think it was more of the fact that BC is a horrible team and played a horrible game on Saturday. In 1993 yes we choked and blew a chance at the national championship, but BC also played well above their heads that day.

 

[IrishInFl]

It's a conspiracy!! The committee wants to add viewers and showmanship means a hell of a lot in this Illuminati. Don't think that we are a sure bet but they will undoubtedly take us over OU If they can find cause.. . and they will If we WIN this Saturday!! Giddy Up boys.. It just got real!

 

[NDgradstudent]

No one can cry foul at the committee. If ND did what they were supposed to do against Wake and particularly BC, they'd be 3rd.

Not convinced about that at all. We beat Wake by 21. We beat BC. Did we need to cover? More than cover? How many other teams are expected to cover? Did OU cover against TCU?

I believe Long- this has more to do with MSU and OU than us.

 

[T Town Tommy]

How not?

When Pitt lost - "That hurts the Irish".
When Stanford lost - "That makes the match-up at the end of the season less meaningful"
When USC got beat by Oregon - "Notre Dame's strength of schedule took a hit today".

When LSU gets smoked 3 in a row? When Wisconsin gets beat by Northwestern? When Memphis beats Ole Miss? When Georgia tanks? - "The Tide are solidly in at 2".

LSU got smoked by us. And got smoked by a team we smoked. And got smoked by the team that beat us by five points. And Bama has played and beaten more teams in pretty much every matrix for SOS that one wants to look at. The last one posted out here that I saw that had ND ranked high showed Bama 7-1 in games against the top 40 for that matrix. They are also 7-1 in the FPI against top 25 teams I believe. Currently, every team on their schedule has a winning record I believe except UL-Monroe. I don't want to hear about Bama's strength of schedule as compared to anyone else's... including Notre Dame and OU.

 

[KPENN]

The committee almost got it right, they shows Iowa love for being undefeated. The 4 best teams are Clem, BAMA, Oklahoma, and MSU all 4 would be deserving if the playoff started tonight.

MSU is not one of the best 4 teams. People bitch and moan about ND not "looking" like a top 4 team the last 2 weeks, have people watched Sparty at all this year?

 

[tussin]

1. I am angry like everyone else and feel like we are getting jobbed at this point.
2. Everyone has said all along that the eye test does matter and it is undeniable that ND looked like butt against BC.
3. Let's hope for chaos.
4. There was a ton of week to week movement at the end of last year too. The weekly releases almost don't matter at this point... I'm taking more of a wait and see approach.

 

[philipm31]

Bama has zero too.

Iowa doesn't have one either.

At the time of the game, OU has 2, and a chance for a 3rd. ND has none at the time of game.

IF they beat Stanford, it will be their first. Bama manhandled #2 LSU by 2 TDs. That alone is more impressive than any W ND has. And again, every other team that is in a conference has a chance to get in with a loss. ND with a loss, not so much. ND needs to be unbeaten, period, as long as they are an independent.

I am just being realistic that ND's last month has cost them a TON of the mojo they got for losing at Clemson. Unless they win convincingly at Stanford, then the "best loss" argument vs OU is pointless, because their wins are far more impressive than beating Temple, Navy and Stanford. That is just reality.

 

[KPENN]

At the time of the game, OU has 2, and a chance for a 3rd. ND has none at the time of game.

IF they beat Stanford, it will be their first. Bama manhandled #2 LSU by 2 TDs. That alone is more impressive than any W ND has. And again, every other team that is in a conference has a chance to get in with a loss. ND with a loss, not so much. ND needs to be unbeaten, period, as long as they are an independent.

I am just being realistic that ND's last month has cost them a TON of the mojo they got for losing at Clemson. Unless they win convincingly at Stanford, then the "best loss" argument vs OU is pointless, because their wins are far more impressive than beating Temple, Navy and Stanford. That is just reality.

OU has one and they don't have a chance for another, Oklahoma state 11.

 

[irishff1014]

We can end all this by joining a conference, we can play in a conference championship and show everyone we belong.

 

[Irishman77]

All we need is Oklahoma St. to win at home and to beat Stanford.

This!

 

[EifertPower]

Anyone who watched the Purdue v Iowa game knows that Iowa after jumping out to a 21-0 lead played a very poor game and threw in some late garbage points to make the game look like a blowout. When we had a 19-3 lead against BC and were played poorly why couldn't we just finish the game off with a 26-3 win and shut the door, we followed it by an 80 yard td run. The fuller drops a td, and then we give up a late td on a drive when KvR gets injured. Ugh

 

[philipm31]

The only thing that is getting us jobbed is that we are an independent that could CRUSH a shitty team like BC by 2 TDs or more, as it should have, if not far more.

RZ offense has been ATROCIOUS under Kelly for years and it becomes far more important late in the year. The fact we did not score 35 vs BC is not just a matter of perception, but of offensive efficiency. And when you cannot score in the RZ, then we deserve to get jumped.

 

[NDgradstudent]

We can end all this by joining a conference, we can play in a conference championship and show everyone we belong.

8 team playoff. Besides, even if we were in the ACC we wouldn't be in the championship game this year because we'd be in the same division as Clemson (as for other sports).

 

[Circa]

LOL COME ON! No one and I mean no one could have watched the last 2 games and say this is a Playoff team. Stop it. If they win Sat, there's a chance but stop it with the theories.

I really don't care what anyone!! Even the committee thinks about our 2 terrible wins. We have to play everyones best. year in and year out. That has got to count for something! Charleston Southern was beat by 50 and Alabama shouldn't have allowed 6 in my opinion.

 

[Kingbish01]

MSU is not one of the best 4 teams. People bitch and moan about ND not "looking" like a top 4 team the last 2 weeks, have people watched Sparty at all this year?

You are right, they've had so close games for sure. But when your 10-1 coming off a road win at the horseshoe, you look much more deserving than a 9-1 team that looked sloppy and won by three against BC.