Who Will Replace Steve Sarkisian?

[Bogtrotter07]

I couldn't disagree more. Whether it's beaches in Hawaii, the coast of Maine, or the waters of the Caribbean, even the smell of salt water is special---not to mention vastly superior for its seafood and scuba diving.

You have obviously never stood on the shores of Lake Erie, and taken a whiff!

 

[Emcee77]

I grew up on Lake Michigan and I've never seen anything like it anywhere else. Fresh water trumps salt water. The sand is better than the gulf. So Cal beaches are probably great (only been to one) but I'd take Michigan's west coast any day. There is winter though.

I grew up in the Southeast going to ocean beaches in Florida, Virginia and North Carolina, and I have to say I prefer Michigan beaches. I love not having to swim in the salt water. Only problem is good, hot beach days in the Midwest are fewer and farther between than I'd like.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I clicked on this thread expecting coaching discussions. I should have known better.

 

[connor_in]

I clicked on this thread expecting coaching discussions. I should have known better.

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[wizards8507]

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You're gonna say you love me too-oo-oo-oo-oo-oh!

 

[kmoose]

There are great beaches just about everywhere in the world. The Great Lakes (Great Bear Dunes, Vermillion), the Pacific (Hanauma Bay, Guam, Adelaide), the Atlantic (Outer Banks, Myrtle Beach, Daytona), the Caribbean (Negril, Nassau, Ocho Rios), the Mediterranean (Malta, Cyprus, Crete), the Indian (Zanzibar, Seychelles, Maldives, and my personal favorite, that I have been to: Diego Garcia). Fighting about which beautiful beach is the best is like arguing over whether fvcking Kathy Ireland in her prime is better than fvcking Marilyn Monroe in her prime. Both of them are presumably incredibly enjoyable. And only a fraction of the population will ever be able to compare the two, firsthand.

 

[connor_in]

SIAP

Odds released on who will be USC's next coach


The front-runner for the position on Tuesday morning is Utah coach Kyle Whittingham with odds of 3.5/1. Current Philadelphia Eagles coach and former Oregon coach Chip Kelly and Boise State head coach Bryan Harsin are second with odds of 6/1 to be the new USC head man.

Here are the complete odds, according to Las Vegas sports book Bovada.

Odds to be USC's next football coach

Kyle Whittingham, Utah - 3.5/1
Chip Kelly, Philadelphia Eagles - 6/1
Bryan Harsin, Boise State - 6/1
Tom Herman, Houston - 7/1
Justin Fuente, Memphis - 7/1
Clay Helton, USC interim coach - 8/1
Jack Del Rio, Oakland Raiders - 8/1
Chris Petersen, Washington - 9/1
Brian Kelly, Notre Dame - 9/1
Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M - 11/1
Gary Patterson, TCU - 11/1
Mark Dantonio, Michigan State - 15/1

 

[wizards8507]

There are great beaches just about everywhere in the world. The Great Lakes (Great Bear Dunes, Vermillion), the Pacific (Hanauma Bay, Guam, Adelaide), the Atlantic (Outer Banks, Myrtle Beach, Daytona), the Caribbean (Negril, Nassau, Ocho Rios), the Mediterranean (Malta, Cyprus, Crete), the Indian (Zanzibar, Seychelles, Maldives, and my personal favorite, that I have been to: Diego Garcia). Fighting about which beautiful beach is the best is like arguing over whether fvcking Kathy Ireland in her prime is better than fvcking Marilyn Monroe in her prime. Both of them are presumably incredibly enjoyable. And only a fraction of the population will ever be able to compare the two, firsthand.

Living on the coast is not the same as going to the beach. Coastal towns have unique vibes that you're not going to find on the lakes.

Newport, Rhode Island: Awesome
Venice Beach, California: Awesome
Ocean City, New Jersey: Awesome
Indiana Dunes National Park: Blegh
Pure Michigan Ad: Boooooring

 

[aubeirish]

Personally, I would rather live on a lake than a beach. Beach is fun and all, but you can do so much more stuff on a lake. Lake Michigan might not be the best example here. I like smaller lakes. Besides, surfing is way overrated. I would rather do wakeboard.

 

[wizards8507]

Personally, I would rather live on a lake than a beach. Beach is fun and all, but you can do so much more stuff on a lake. Lake Michigan might not be the best example here. I like smaller lakes. You can do more stuff at the lake than the beach. Besides, surfing is way overrated. I would rather do wakeboard.

Like I said, we're talking about quality of life, not quality of a vacation. Unless fishing or surfing make up the vast majority of your down time, then your city or town is going to make a much bigger difference in your quality of life than the body of water you're near. And coastal cities and towns are vastly superior to the generic blandness of the American midwest.

 

[gkIrish]

Newport, Rhode Island: Awesome
Venice Beach, California: Awesome
Ocean City, New Jersey: Awesome
Indiana Dunes National Park: Blegh
Pure Michigan Ad: Boooooring

Newport might be my favorite place in America

 

[wizards8507]

Newport might be my favorite place in America

It's settled, then. The most desirable head coaching position in the country is Salve Regina University.

#GoHawks

...wow, they have an offensive lineman who's 5-11, 210.

 

[aubeirish]

Like I said, we're talking about quality of life, not quality of a vacation. Unless fishing or surfing make up the vast majority of your down time, then your city or town is going to make a much bigger difference in your quality of life than the body of water you're near. And coastal cities and towns are vastly superior to the generic blandness of the American midwest.

You make a point. Although, you can live on a lake the whole year, not just for vocation. I suppose you can never argue against L.A weather. It is pretty good. It really depends if you like winter or not... The whole argument is relative to the perspective of the person concerned IMO.

 

[Emcee77]

You make a point. Although, you can live on a lake the whole year, not just for vocation. I suppose you can never argue against L.A weather. It is pretty good. It really depends if you like winter or not... The whole argument is relative to the perspective of the person concerned IMO.

Right, to the extent anyone is saying that it is objectively better from a quality of life standpoint to live in a midwestern college town that might be near a lake or in L.A., I think they are wrong no matter which side they take. Plenty of people hate the Midwest; plenty of people hate L.A. There is no right answer. It just comes down to personal preferences.

 

[MNIrishman]

Like I said, we're talking about quality of life, not quality of a vacation. Unless fishing or surfing make up the vast majority of your down time, then your city or town is going to make a much bigger difference in your quality of life than the body of water you're near. And coastal cities and towns are vastly superior to the generic blandness of the American midwest.

You thinking the Midwest is bland is about as accurate as your statement that Tallahassee is 200 miles inland. There isn't a single point in Florida, anywhere, that's 200 miles inland. I'm beginning to think you just don't understand anything outside your little ESPN/Coast bubble.

 

[MNIrishman]

Right, to the extent anyone is saying that it is objectively better from a quality of life standpoint to live in a midwestern college town that might be near a lake or in L.A., I think they are wrong no matter which side they take. Plenty of people hate the Midwest; plenty of people hate L.A. There is no right answer. It just comes down to personal preferences.

That was the point I was making in my OP talking about how LA/USC has negatives just like anywhere else. Lots of people in LA like to make it sound like it's perfect. It's not and is as much of a mixed bag as the rest of the country.

 

[tussin]

Newport, Rhode Island: Awesome
Venice Beach, California: Awesome
Ocean City, New Jersey: Awesome
Indiana Dunes National Park: Blegh
Pure Michigan Ad: Boooooring

Way to pick and choose your towns there Wiz. There are plenty of little lake towns/beaches that have a unique charm that are as good or better than any coastal beach towns.

This is a pretty pointless discussion.

 

[wizards8507]

Right, to the extent anyone is saying that it is objectively better from a quality of life standpoint to live in a midwestern college town that might be near a lake or in L.A., I think they are wrong no matter which side they take. Plenty of people hate the Midwest; plenty of people hate L.A. There is no right answer. It just comes down to personal preferences.

Obviously it's personal preference, but you can still objectively evaluate desirability. Median price for a single family home in LA is like $550K. Median price for a single family home in Norman, Oklahoma is $150K. What do you call that other than "objectively more desirable"?

 

[ACamp1900]

Has anyone said anything to the effect that LA is better than everywhere else? I think this got brought up because some posters made LA out to be this awful place with little to nothing good going for it...

 

[tussin]

Also, OCNJ is awesome? Come on dude.

 

[ACamp1900]

Obviously it's personal preference, but you can still objectively evaluate desirability. Median price for a single family home in LA is like $550K. Median price for a single family home in Norman, Oklahoma is $150K. What do you call that other than "objectively more desirable"?

For the record, I would LOVE to live in Norman,... we were very close to moving there until we lost my niece there and a bunch of bad memories got attached to Norman (That was five years ago yesterday for those who remember that happening, there were plenty of IE regs who helped in various ways when my family went through that, can't say thanks enough).

 

[tussin]

Obviously it's personal preference, but you can still objectively evaluate desirability. Median price for a single family home in LA is like $550K. Median price for a single family home in Norman, Oklahoma is $150K. What do you call that other than "objectively more desirable"?

It's not that simple, cost of living is probably more reflective of job markets than desirability. For example, people don't go on vacation to LA or NYC, they go to Vermont, Montana, or a range of beach/lake towns... all of which likely have cheaper median home prices.

 

[irishnd31]

For the record, I would LOVE to live in Norman,... we were very close to moving there until we lost my niece there and a bunch of bad memories got attached to Norman (That was five years ago yesterday for those who remember that happening, there were plenty of IE regs who helped in various ways when my family went through that, can't say thanks enough).

Definitely remember buddy. Still such a sad story.

 

[wizards8507]

I'm beginning to think you just don't understand anything outside your little ESPN/Coast bubble.

I'm sorry. Of the two of us, which has 1) lived in the Midwest for four years, 2) lived in Florida for three years, and 3) lived in New England for nineteen years? I've been at ESPN for about 17 months.

You thinking the Midwest is bland is about as accurate as your statement that Tallahassee is 200 miles inland. There isn't a single point in Florida, anywhere, that's 200 miles inland.

No, the Gulf of Mexico doesn't count. We were discussing weather at the time and Tallahassee gets zero cooling effect from the Gulf like they'd get on the ocean.

 

[MNIrishman]

Obviously it's personal preference, but you can still objectively evaluate desirability. Median price for a single family home in LA is like $550K. Median price for a single family home in Norman, Oklahoma is $150K. What do you call that other than "objectively more desirable"?

Overcrowded

 

[wizards8507]

Overcrowded

Ah yes, the Yogi Berra classic. Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.

Uh, what do you think "overcrowded" means other than "loads of people want to live there"?

 

[kmoose]

Living on the coast is not the same as going to the beach. Coastal towns have unique vibes that you're not going to find on the lakes.

BS! I spent 2 years at NAS Pt. Mugu, CA, in Ventura County:

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And I lived in a 4 BR, 3BA, 2200 sq ft. house, ON the beach in Hawaii, for two years:

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I've travelled to seaside areas of Malta, Cyprus, Jordan, Ukraine, Japan, and Bulgaria. I know all about the "cool vibe" of seaside communities. I've lived it; and in some of the most beautiful places in the world. And I can tell you that Lake George, NY is maybe not quite as good, but is VERY comparable to almost all of those places.

 

[ND NYC]

Newport might be my favorite place in America

I used to go there all the time (the wife family is from Narragansett RI) and then we discovered the beaches and coastal towns up in Maine...and have never looked back.

ps love my Midwestern brothers, and there is some nice spots on the "big lake" but, are you guys really comparing Lake Michigan beaches to those of Southern California??

is the italics icon not showing up on your IE screens?

 

[MNIrishman]

BS! I spent 2 years at NAS Pt. Mugu, CA, in Ventura County:

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And I lived in a 4 BR, 3BA, 2200 sq ft. house, ON the beach in Hawaii, for two years:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/8...ata=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xd120d891a8123a93

I've travelled to seaside areas of Malta, Cyprus, Jordan, Ukraine, Japan, and Bulgaria. I know all about the "cool vibe" of seaside communities. I've lived it; and in some of the most beautiful places in the world. And I can tell you that Lake George, NY is maybe not quite as good, but is VERY comparable to almost all of those places.

And I'd put Mackinac Island, Ludington, or Port Austin up against any of them. Best part? None of those places are going to be under water in the next hundred years.

 

[ACamp1900]

I would so hate to live in one of those million dollar boxes on the beach, no space, no yard, to me that is too overcrowded... that's where my area of Cali has it's perks, I'm within an ~hour of 'the beach' but also have an acre and a half of relatively (for Cali) cheap property in a niceish area... I'll take that over the sardine can. Just me.

With that said I would LOVE to get a lake front property outside of Austin or the like in Texas or Oklahoma... best of both worlds there...