'14 IN OLB/S Drue Tranquill (Notre Dame Man)

peoriairish

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An impaired ACL can be compensated or even hidden by strong hamstrings. They both prevent anterior translation and external tibal rotation on the femur in an open chained position. Many times, if someone who is of normal activity level and not really planning on playing sports anymore, they won't even bother fixing the ACL.

The gold standard right now is what's known as a bone-tendon-bone autograft. It takes a graft from your tibia, your patella tendon, and your knee cap, is then fed through the tibia and femur in the path the ACL would normally take, making the 10mm graft wide graft of the patella your new ACL. I observed a surgery on Friday of a 17 y/o volleyball player who just had this done. On the post-op protocol from that surgeon, you can't start squatting of any kind until 10 weeks post-op. At that point, the graft is pretty well in place and healing up. While unlikely that he's squatting 3 plates, it's possible with the shape he was in pre-injury.

And while he thinks he may be back by spring ball, sure. He'll be on the field. But I can assure you he will not participating in full team drills and contact. He'll likely be taken aside and run through specific agility drills to bring him up to speed. He should be ready for full contact by fall camp.

TL:DR// There's a long way between squatting 3 plates and the torque and stress put on the knee playing football. Single plane vs multi-plane movements. Be patient everyone.

Source: I have my Doctorate in Physical Therapy.
 

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An impaired ACL can be compensated or even hidden by strong hamstrings. They both prevent anterior translation and external tibal rotation on the femur in an open chained position. Many times, if someone who is of normal activity level and not really planning on playing sports anymore, they won't even bother fixing the ACL.

The gold standard right now is what's known as a bone-tendon-bone autograft. It takes a graft from your tibia, your patella tendon, and your knee cap, is then fed through the tibia and femur in the path the ACL would normally take, making the 10mm graft wide graft of the patella your new ACL. I observed a surgery on Friday of a 17 y/o volleyball player who just had this done. On the post-op protocol from that surgeon, you can't start squatting of any kind until 10 weeks post-op. At that point, the graft is pretty well in place and healing up. While unlikely that he's squatting 3 plates, it's possible with the shape he was in pre-injury.

And while he thinks he may be back by spring ball, sure. He'll be on the field. But I can assure you he will not participating in full team drills and contact. He'll likely be taken aside and run through specific agility drills to bring him up to speed. He should be ready for full contact by fall camp.

TL:DR// There's a long way between squatting 3 plates and the torque and stress put on the knee playing football. Single plane vs multi-plane movements. Be patient everyone.

Source: I have my Doctorate in Physical Therapy.

Great insight. Wish I could have you take a look at my knee. After two failures, I'm in no hurry to go through the expense & rehab again for another failure.

Anyway, I looked up Hines Ward's bio. He was discovered to not have even had an ACL in one of his knees while at UGA. Turns out he broke his knee cap in a bike accident at an early age & the doctors didn't account for the ligament. Didn't say if he ever had a new one grafted but he had a helluva career as an NFL WR.
 

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Great insight. Wish I could have you take a look at my knee. After two failures, I'm in no hurry to go through the expense & rehab again for another failure.

Anyway, I looked up Hines Ward's bio. He was discovered to not have even had an ACL in one of his knees while at UGA. Turns out he broke his knee cap in a bike accident at an early age & the doctors didn't account for the ligament. Didn't say if he ever had a new one grafted but he had a helluva career as an NFL WR.

Yeah, you can make up for being ACL deficient quite well with significant strength and stability of the other ligaments in the knee and muscles surrounding the knee. I bet he has a ton of meniscal damage, however.
 

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heartbreaking...absolutely heartbreaking. One of our biggest warriors and my favorite
 

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I've just never seen season ending injuries stack up like this. 2.5 games into the season and we've lost six players to season ending injuries. Add in transfers for various reasons and it's just to much.

My heart goes out to the kid. He was having a great first half and he seems to be very well respected on this team. So unfortunate.
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if it was. Came back out in his pads. Probably doesn't know the next time he will put them on.

Why? He came back strong from the injury to his other knee. I could see if it was the same knee. If it's an ACL tear he could be fine.
 

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An impaired ACL can be compensated or even hidden by strong hamstrings. They both prevent anterior translation and external tibal rotation on the femur in an open chained position. Many times, if someone who is of normal activity level and not really planning on playing sports anymore, they won't even bother fixing the ACL.

The gold standard right now is what's known as a bone-tendon-bone autograft. It takes a graft from your tibia, your patella tendon, and your knee cap, is then fed through the tibia and femur in the path the ACL would normally take, making the 10mm graft wide graft of the patella your new ACL. I observed a surgery on Friday of a 17 y/o volleyball player who just had this done. On the post-op protocol from that surgeon, you can't start squatting of any kind until 10 weeks post-op. At that point, the graft is pretty well in place and healing up. While unlikely that he's squatting 3 plates, it's possible with the shape he was in pre-injury.

And while he thinks he may be back by spring ball, sure. He'll be on the field. But I can assure you he will not participating in full team drills and contact. He'll likely be taken aside and run through specific agility drills to bring him up to speed. He should be ready for full contact by fall camp.

TL:DR// There's a long way between squatting 3 plates and the torque and stress put on the knee playing football. Single plane vs multi-plane movements. Be patient everyone.

Source: I have my Doctorate in Physical Therapy.

Show off.

No, seriously, good info. Is there any question that he'll be good for next season, or is this one of those things that's often a recurring problem?
 

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Why? He came back strong from the injury to his other knee. I could see if it was the same knee. If it's an ACL tear he could be fine.

I first thought he had reinjured the same knee from last year, hence why I asked the question, plus hearing his scream didn't help either. Hopefully he can come back stronger cause he was playing lights out
 

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See what happens when you celebrate. How about a hand shake going forward.

Kid has become a real good player.

Get healthy quick Drue. We need you to be a starter next year.


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An impaired ACL can be compensated or even hidden by strong hamstrings. They both prevent anterior translation and external tibal rotation on the femur in an open chained position. Many times, if someone who is of normal activity level and not really planning on playing sports anymore, they won't even bother fixing the ACL.

The gold standard right now is what's known as a bone-tendon-bone autograft. It takes a graft from your tibia, your patella tendon, and your knee cap, is then fed through the tibia and femur in the path the ACL would normally take, making the 10mm graft wide graft of the patella your new ACL. I observed a surgery on Friday of a 17 y/o volleyball player who just had this done. On the post-op protocol from that surgeon, you can't start squatting of any kind until 10 weeks post-op. At that point, the graft is pretty well in place and healing up. While unlikely that he's squatting 3 plates, it's possible with the shape he was in pre-injury.

And while he thinks he may be back by spring ball, sure. He'll be on the field. But I can assure you he will not participating in full team drills and contact. He'll likely be taken aside and run through specific agility drills to bring him up to speed. He should be ready for full contact by fall camp.

TL:DR// There's a long way between squatting 3 plates and the torque and stress put on the knee playing football. Single plane vs multi-plane movements. Be patient everyone.

Source: I have my Doctorate in Physical Therapy.

Quality post, thanks for the info. I was thinking he blew at least a couple cruciate ligaments the way his knee complete "blew out" when he came down. I was thinking he may not come back.
 

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hate seeing this(as everyone does)...but of course another game, another year ending injury. who's next?? thats the scariest question. no italics


Tranquill's athleticism was a key factor in the defense defending the triple-option. he was having a great game.
 

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Have we heard anything concrete yet?

They probably won't know for sure until tomorrow, but Kelly said in his postgame that it didn't look good. Between that and the full-leg brace he was rocking, it's a safe bet he's out for an extended period.
 
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