BVG Answers The Bell

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I was worried that we could give up 45 today. I know GT scored some junk TDs late, but I was pleasantly surprised with the defensive effort and the plan from our embattled DC. Thoughts?
 

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pleasantly surprised? we dominated on defense, late scores were garbage.
 

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We put the disguised coverages--the complicated blitzes--the entire NFL scheme on the shelf.

We let our players play college football ---we depended on speed, size, tackling, & discipline---not that much thinking lots of playing.

We have the athletes to play good defense , the question is are we getting the best out of our guys when we move to the more complex NFL scheme. Personally I would like to see more man to man defense , more simplicity and less clever disguises of our coverages and blitzes.

You can't shut down this option that everyone is afraid of with an NFL scheme or without really good players.

I hope BVG learns something from this , our pass coverages even at the end of this game, are often lacking.

Interesting to see if we simplify things.
 

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I think everybody deserves some credit on this. Elliot, BVG, entire defense, BK. Honestly one of the most satisfying victories during BK's tenure. Very good effort by the D
 
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We put the disguised coverages--the complicated blitzes--the entire NFL scheme on the shelf.

We let our players play college football ---we depended on speed, size, tackling, & discipline---not that much thinking lots of playing.

We have the athletes to play good defense , the question is are we getting the best out of our guys when we move to the more complex NFL scheme. Personally I would like to see more man to man defense , more simplicity and less clever disguises of our coverages and blitzes.

You can't shut down this option that everyone is afraid of with an NFL scheme or without really good players.

I hope BVG learns something from this , our pass coverages even at the end of this game, are often lacking.

Interesting to see if we simplify things.

I totally agree, to bad he won't simplify things.
 

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Maybe i'm dense......

If the triple option was so hard to stop why isn't everyone running it??? Or at least major portions of it??

What was the last triple option team to win a National Championship?
 

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Well planned and executed game plan. When your bigger, faster football players are put in a position to succeed and play selfless, disciplined football good things happen. I really hate that offense though.
 

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Maybe i'm dense......

If the triple option was so hard to stop why isn't everyone running it??? Or at least major portions of it??

What was the last triple option team to win a National Championship?

Nebraska in '94 and '95 I think. Before that, ND.
 
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This is what we should see from BVG week in and week out. He didn't answer anything yet. Good win, though.
 

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Maybe i'm dense......

If the triple option was so hard to stop why isn't everyone running it??? Or at least major portions of it??

What was the last triple option team to win a National Championship?

One reason is, Its tough to recruit players to play it these days. Almost all offensive talent dont want to play in it (QB's, WR's, RB's, OL). Obviously kids look at the college game as a stepping stone for the NFL. It's amazing GT has put a couple of the WR's in the league they have of that quality.
 

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Come on now, that was a really satisfying win. Get off the backs of those coaches who lead this team every day.
 

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That's the best performance (for 59 minutes) that anyone has put on Georgia Tech in a very long time. Scheme was excellent, players were excellent.

As an aside, their one legit TD drive was the result of a big play that had at least 3 OBVIOUS holds including one that was instrumental in springing the back past the linebacker. Notre Dame could've legitimately pitched a shutout. It doesn't get better than that.
 

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Come on now, that was a really satisfying win. Get off the backs of those coaches who lead this team every day.

I'm definitely not an overly critical fan, but that Showtime series has really opened my eyes to this team and the relationships they have with the coaches. Shit happens in football, and you really can lose to anyone on any given day. There is definitely an ebb and flow to this beautiful game. It's amazing how close the line is from genius to asshole on Saturdays. I really do like this coaching staff, they are doing some good things and will continue to do so. There are always going to be tough games against unexpected opponents in major college football.
 

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I'm definitely not an overly critical fan, but that Showtime series has really opened my eyes to this team and the relationships they have with the coaches. Shit happens in football, and you really can lose to anyone on any given day. There is definitely an ebb and flow to this beautiful game. It's amazing how close the line is from genius to asshole on Saturdays. I really do like this coaching staff, they are doing some good things and will continue to do so. There are always going to be tough games against unexpected opponents in major college football.

Backup QB, Nose Tackle, RB, and then some. This team, (and coaches) did work today. I'm going to reserve my bitching until they actually lose.
 

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I honestly expected this outcome one I read more about Elliott focusing solely on stopping this offense and noticed Kizer's confidence.
 

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Aside from really hating the letup in the last few minutes, I thought it was a very disciplined effort. I thought the middle defense played spectacularly. I really don't remember a single run of any real length coming up the middle. I don't know the word on Tranquill; I fear the worst, which is a shame, because he really seemed to start to blossom today.
 

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That's the best performance (for 59 minutes) that anyone has put on Georgia Tech in a very long time. Scheme was excellent, players were excellent.

As an aside, their one legit TD drive was the result of a big play that had at least 3 OBVIOUS holds including one that was instrumental in springing the back past the linebacker. Notre Dame could've legitimately pitched a shutout. It doesn't get better than that.

Agree with this LAX. We be stuffed an extraordinary offense today. They are going to put some serious points up this year. Everyone who had a hand in it should be proud. That was NAVY on steroids.
 

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Fantastic job by BVG and Elliott. Especially after all the hype about how much Paul Johnson hates BVG.
 

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Maybe i'm dense......

If the triple option was so hard to stop why isn't everyone running it??? Or at least major portions of it??

What was the last triple option team to win a National Championship?


Lucky explained the recruiting part of it well but there are other reasons.

One is that it's a very effective front-running offense but if you get behind schedule on first and second down, or get behind in the game, you typically don't have the quick strike potential. With the current high scoring game it's a gamble to run an offense that doesn't provide the quick strike.

Also, part of its effectiveness in this day and age is its novelty. You maybe see it once a year at best and have to completely rearrange personnel and scheme for one game. You build a speedy defense to compete against an environment of spread em out offense and it's tough to defend the triple option.


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I'm thinking we have been practicing defending the option for 2 weeks... didn't Sheldon say they kind of overlooked Virginia? ...today it looked like they have been practicing defending the option for a month.
 

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I wonder if all those years of playing Navy actually helped today. I think GT is good and will give everyone they play problems.
 

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Lucky explained the recruiting part of it well but there are other reasons.

One is that it's a very effective front-running offense but if you get behind schedule on first and second down, or get behind in the game, you typically don't have the quick strike potential. With the current high scoring game it's a gamble to run an offense that doesn't provide the quick strike.

Also, part of its effectiveness in this day and age is its novelty. You maybe see it once a year at best and have to completely rearrange personnel and scheme for one game. You build a speedy defense to compete against an environment of spread em out offense and it's tough to defend the triple option.


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Soo..I guess i'm still cornfused. It hasn't worked in the grand scheme of CFB..if it was proven to win NC's or get players in the NFL, everyone would sign up to play for the triple option. ND's "poor" defense did quite well.
 

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I wonder if all those years of playing Navy actually helped today. I think GT is good and will give everyone they play problems.

A lot of people make the obvious comparison, but is it actually that similar? GT doesn't recruit with the best of them, but they do well usually getting ~20 plus 3* with some 4* sprinkled in. Point is, unlike Navy they get some prototypical size O-linemen. Meaning that they can try and go toe to toe with the D line on blocks. Navy's always relied on undersized linemen cut blocking that have driven us crazy. I mean it is Paul Johnson, was there excessive cut blocking today? I didn't really notice?
 

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A lot of people make the obvious comparison, but is it actually that similar? GT doesn't recruit with the best of them, but they do well usually getting ~20 plus 3* with some 4* sprinkled in. Point is, unlike Navy they get some prototypical size O-linemen. Meaning that they can try and go toe to toe with the D line on blocks. Navy's always relied on undersized linemen cut blocking that have driven us crazy. I mean it is Paul Johnson, was there excessive cut blocking today? I didn't really notice?
Cut blocking is never excessive. It's a legitimate tactic, and they did it all game. We finally defended it properly and when you defend it properly you don't get hurt.
 

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I've always been interested to see what would happen with a triple option attack if you had elite players on both sides of the ball.

For example, if you had Braxton Miller or Denard Robinson or Mike Vick at QB and a Dallas Cowboys OL with Todd Gurley/Leonard Fournette/etc. as a primary runner. And then on the other side of the ball, you have an Alabama defense of a couple years that refuses to give up more than 21 points in a game.

I feel like the potential for explosive plays coupled with the dominant defense would be almost unbeatable in college football... but I also don't think any of those types of players would want to go play for a triple option style team. In the NFL, it clearly would never work because team speed on defense would be too good and it'd be unlikely to have a defense truly good enough to keep opponent's score down because of parity/the draft. Plus the risk of injury to your QB.
 
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