Post Game Observations - Virginia '15

[GATTACA!]

9. IE, collectively, looks like the inside of a confused teenagers brain right now. The emotions are EVERYWHERE lol.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

How many carries did our starting RB get in the second half?

We scored 12 pts in the 1st half, 22 in the 2nd. Maybe BK and the offensive staff are onto something. I love watching the team effectively run the football, but ultimately more points is better last time I checked

 

[Luckylucci]

While I agree that BVG is good for a few good play calls, BK should have his ass. He calls a terrible game every day. I'm sick of this "let's get it or not"....................... It's a joke of a defenses. Purdue made us look bad and now UVA has too.

 

[Luckylucci]

Our OL is boss! However we don't have a QB that can make the play. We were at 5/yds/a in the 3rd. Malik was not the answer.

 

[Luckylucci]

Prosise is a G, and him with the OL is the only reason we one that game

 

[Luckylucci]

The epitome of BVG's scheme was Jaylon and Tranquill running across the set and into each other. Classic I have no fucking idea what I'm doing

 

[Irish YJ]

we were gifted that win
that TD pass was a make up call from the football gods after MZ going down

 

[Bishop2b5]

With all due respect, bishop... No one gives a flip about what a bama fan has to say about our coaches.

There's a stark difference between what Tommy posts and what you do. Don't trip on us when we're down, that's not your place. We have always been kind to you as an outsider, the least you can do is not come on here after a tough game and shit on our staff.

My apologies, Wooly. Sometimes what you put down on the page in 30 seconds doesn't accurately convey (especially without benefit of facial expression and tone of voice) what you really meant. By no means was I trying to trip on you guys when you're down (I hope I've never done that). I was simply agreeing with some of the posters who were less than satisfied with BVG's work.

 

[Butchie]

R-E-L-A-X
I know this will not be popular speach, but Kizer is a better fit for what we do. Yes Zaire had the running portion Kelly loves, but you see where the love for a running QB got us (him). Take a look, the best play for Kizer was the flushed out pass to C.J. I knew right then He's going to be OK. The Shark is my Fav. all time but Fuller is a beast. Now saying that I am going to admit with him at the helm we probably lose 2 more games than originally predicted like GT and Clem (SC is a for sure loss), but unfortunately that is the price of inexperience. No one should be allowed to transfer after spring ball. You wanna go? Fine! You go! But no spring ball because it steals reps from the true bloods. Individuals wanting to promote themselves need to be limited on reps. With this rule Kizer would have gotten valuable reps in the spring.
#GOLSONSABITCH
#FULLERSABOSS
#KIZERISIRISH

 

[ThePiombino]

R-E-L-A-X
I know this will not be popular speach, but Kizer is a better fit for what we do. Yes Zaire had the running portion Kelly loves, but you see where the love for a running QB got us (him). Take a look, the best play for Kizer was the flushed out pass to C.J. I knew right then He's going to be OK. The Shark is my Fav. all time but Fuller is a beast. Now saying that I am going to admit with him at the helm we probably lose 2 more games than originally predicted like GT and Clem (SC is a for sure loss), but unfortunately that is the price of inexperience. No one should be allowed to transfer after spring ball. You wanna go? Fine! You go! But no spring ball because it steals reps from the true bloods. Individuals wanting to promote themselves need to be limited on reps. With this rule Kizer would have gotten valuable reps in the spring.
#GOLSONSABITCH
#FULLERSABOSS
#KIZERISIRISH

This may not be a popular POV, but...

I think Butchie makes a good point to the bolded. Anyone who wants to pretend that Golson didn't do immeasurable damage to this team's potential this year by stealing reps in the spring is just...wrong. He cost this team in both quality depth and meaningful spring reps. At first I was meh about because no damage done. Welp, now I'm pissed.

 

[wizards8507]

Without Malik Clemson and USC will humiliate us. Best Case scenario another 8-5 year and I'll be saving my personal days for something other than those games. Nothing against Kizer but we just can't do it without Malik...we just cant

What the hell are you talking about? We have no idea how good or bad Kizer will be. He could come in and set the world on fire, instant superstar.

 

[wizards8507]

Also, the sky-is-falling crowd should check out the Texas-Rice box score. I know it's Rice, but Texas isn't THAT bad.

 

[kmoose]

we were gifted that win
that TD pass was a make up call from the football gods after MZ going down

That TD pass was a great play call, combined with one heck of a throw from a kid seeing his first real action. Kelly said in his post game interview that the corner on that side of the field was jumping the slant route, so they ran a slant and go. I don't think anyone is giving Kizer enough credit for that throw. He hit Fuller almost perfectly in stride, almost 50 yards away (Kizer was just the plus side of the 50, and Fuller caught it between the 1 and 2 yard lines). He didn't panic and overthrow or underthrow the receiver; he just put it right in there.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Post Game Observations - Virginia '15

That TD pass was a great play call, combined with one heck of a throw from a kid seeing his first real action. Kelly said in his post game interview that the corner on that side of the field was jumping the slant route, so they ran a slant and go. I don't think anyone is giving Kizer enough credit for that throw. He hit Fuller almost perfectly in stride, almost 50 yards away (Kizer was just the plus side of the 50, and Fuller caught it between the 1 and 2 yard lines). He didn't panic and overthrow or underthrow the receiver; he just put it right in there.

My buddy thinks Kizer staring down receivers will be an issue (he stared down Fuller entire play before releasing), but in that particular situation, my takeaway was more of a combo of:

-Game on the line
-Time running out
-Corner jumping slants (as you said)
-Kizer thinking, "I'm throwing it deep and far to our best player so he can win us the game"

 

[ThePiombino]

What the hell are you talking about? We have no idea how good or bad Kizer will be. He could come in and set the world on fire, instant superstar.

I hope you're right, and I have this really odd, inexplicable (good) feeling about Kizer. I don't think he's going to be Barrett or Jones, but I can see him doing enough to put this team in a position to win.

 

[Black Irish]

That TD pass was a great play call, combined with one heck of a throw from a kid seeing his first real action. Kelly said in his post game interview that the corner on that side of the field was jumping the slant route, so they ran a slant and go. I don't think anyone is giving Kizer enough credit for that throw. He hit Fuller almost perfectly in stride, almost 50 yards away (Kizer was just the plus side of the 50, and Fuller caught it between the 1 and 2 yard lines). He didn't panic and overthrow or underthrow the receiver; he just put it right in there.

Right before Kizer made that throw, I said to another guy "It would be great if Notre Dame just bombed it downfield for a TD to put the game away." And BAM! Done. I also wished for 5 million dollars in cash to be waiting for me at home, but that hasn't turned up yet.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

My buddy thinks Kizer staring down receivers will be an issue (he stared down Fuller entire play before releasing), but in that particular situation, my takeaway was more of a combo of:

-Game on the line
-Time running out
-Corner jumping slants (as you said)
-Kizer thinking, "I'm throwing it deep and far to our best player so he can win us the game"

I think it was moose who pointed out...the QB should stare the receiver down on a slant and go. Why bite if the QB isn't even looking in that direction?

 

[Guest]

The number of one versus the other is a very meaningless stat. Not to mention the run numbers were padded by the multiple failures on short yardage conversion situations. My issue with not running the ball "enough" was the timing of the play calls and when to use the pass vs run.

Prosise had over 100 yards in the first half. The game plan after that should have been to keep feeding all three RBs in a Big set (i.e. 2 or 3 TEs) because the passing game wasn't working in the first half.

On one of Kizer's drives, it was three passes and punt. The timing and calling of short passes (when deep passes showed to be successful) was the problem.

Bingo. That and the zone blitzes were the big problems in this game. The necessity for these blitzes comes from the inability to recruit pass rushing ends on a consistent basis.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Right before Kizer made that throw, I said to another guy "It would be great if Notre Dame just bombed it downfield for a TD to put the game away." And BAM! Done. I also wished for 5 million dollars in cash to be waiting for me at home, but that hasn't turned up yet.

uhh have you never seen a news program, you have to put a sledge hammer to random spots on your walls to find Da Booty.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Also, could no one tell the announcers that Yoon has only missed two kicks this year and not three? That was really grating.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Ok.......... you people need to stop complaining about Day "dropping into coverage". Day wasn't covering anyone. It's a standard thing in a zone blitz, to have a lineman drop back into a throwing lane, so that the QB cannot throw a ball to the space vacated by the blitzer. The DL is NOT expected to cover anyone. They are just there to put a body into the throwing lane.

This. Thank you Moose. All of you guys would be screaming if Day hadn't dropped back and the QB completed a pass in that giant window.

I think the problem with Day dropping is that he is one of our best pass rushers. I am not against dropping a D-lineman in coverage (on a zone blitz) but I would prefer it be someone else.

We understand the zone blitz, but if you have to drop our best pash rusher in lieu of Joe Schmidt who can't get past a poopy diaper, it's a double whammy in the wrong direction.

We dropped our best pass rusher in to coverage and rushed Jaylon on the 3rd and long. I don't give a fuck about the scheme. It's bullshit. It ended up netting them a 1st down on a crucial 3rd and long and I didn't see one time it worked. I don't care how it's designed, or what it's supposed to do, if it doesn't work don't fucking do it. And it happened several times during the game. It's not like he busted it out once and it failed. It failed multiple times prior so he should've known it wasn't going to work.

How many carries did our starting RB get in the second half?

Not enough. Not nearly enough.

 

[Fbolt]

Q: Have we lost 1 or 3 RB's to injury? GD ESPN ticking me off.

GB was out for academics and then transferred. Folston out due to injury. Who else am I missing?

Rational (rationalizing - haha!) thought with me is prevailing with this W (yes, ND won folks). Texas came back and won this week. Ark lost to Toledo. Auburn almost lost to a 2nd tier team. Sh!t happens, particularly when a team is continuing to find their identity. Teams who won in week 1 are looking ahead, teams who lost are freaking out and trying to make a point. IMO, that's where ND was.

Sanford/Kelly will set Kizer up for success. At least Kizer didn't Demetrius Jones the team. He succeeded. Did well extending the play with his pass to Prosise and threw a hellava throw to Fuller. Still have Wimbush in reserve. It's a matter of these kids wanting to do well and having that will to win.

 

[Fbolt]

Again-I love the Dr. Pepper Analysts.

 

[texbender]

Punting game was good, and it was needed in a game like this.
CJ did well on punt returns, too.
Wish our Kick Off return game had more pizzazz than what we've seen so far.

 

[Classic Irish]

Without Malik Clemson and USC will humiliate us. Best Case scenario another 8-5 year and I'll be saving my personal days for something other than those games. Nothing against Kizer but we just can't do it without Malik...we just cant

Wait, are you sure you aren't a southern cal fan?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Not worth much, but:
1). 2-0, not bad;
2). We can run the ball with Prosise and do it astonishingly well. I see us doing that vs. most everybody, plus our young guns will learn to do CJ imitations in time. That half of the offense should be good;
3). Zaire looked mediocre vs UVA [passing; he looked good running] and Kizer looked pretty good. That does not mean much yet --- BUT IT DOESN"T POINT NEGATIVELY EITHER. Coach has a big play book. He can still run the ball, and use Deshone like a Pike imitation. It could be true that the taller QB sees the quick dart Classic Kelly pass offense better, not worse. The point is, we have to see --- this isn't impossible;
4). We defended UVA very well in the first quarter when it looked like they couldn't get anything going. We also shut them out in the third. We out gained them. Their QB was acknowledged as a good one by everyone preseason. Though, in my opinion, our safeties still get suckered too often, and leave our corners with too much responsibility, this has to get solider with repetitions in real games --- Redfield particularly seems capable of getting it eventually;
5). I believe that we will defeat GA Tech. That is a gimmick offense, and we have much more team speed and tackling quality [now] for that to just run wild. Sure it will score some. I believe that we could readily score more;
6). We could still be unbeaten going down into Clemson territory. I'll wait until we confront them to decide whether to lower my expectations on the season too much.

My only adjustment is to stop watching the live action, as it has too many painful haymakers embedded in it for my old central nervous system. I'll tape the games and watch later when the pain level will be muted by foreknowledge.

 

[wizards8507]

Does anyone else feel way better the further removed we are from last night?

 

[Booslum31]

Not worth much, but:
1). 2-0, not bad;
2). We can run the ball with Prosise and do it astonishingly well. I see us doing that vs. most everybody, plus our young guns will learn to do CJ imitations in time. That half of the offense should be good;
3). Zaire looked mediocre vs UVA [passing; he looked good running] and Kizer looked pretty good. That does not mean much yet --- BUT IT DOESN"T POINT NEGATIVELY EITHER. Coach has a big play book. He can still run the ball, and use Deshone like a Pike imitation. It could be true that the taller QB sees the quick dart Classic Kelly pass offense better, not worse. The point is, we have to see --- this isn't impossible;
4). We defended UVA very well in the first quarter when it looked like they couldn't get anything going. We also shut them out in the third. We out gained them. Their QB was acknowledged as a good one by everyone preseason. Though, in my opinion, our safeties still get suckered too often, and leave our corners with too much responsibility, this has to get solider with repetitions in real games --- Redfield particularly seems capable of getting it eventually;
5). I believe that we will defeat GA Tech. That is a gimmick offense, and we have much more team speed and tackling quality [now] for that to just run wild. Sure it will score some. I believe that we could readily score more;
6). We could still be unbeaten going down into Clemson territory. I'll wait until we confront them to decide whether to lower my expectations on the season too much.

My only adjustment is to stop watching the live action, as it has too many painful haymakers embedded in it for my old central nervous system. I'll tape the games and watch later when the pain level will be muted by foreknowledge.

I have to do this to remain married at times. I'm too old to get my heart racing like I do.

 

[ACamp1900]

I may have to refrain from watching some games live too... Yesterday gave me chest pains, for real,... My wife has said many times she worries about my health during ND games

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Does anyone else feel way better the further removed we are from last night?

Usually. Zaire still stings quite a bit today. I was so excited to see a true read-option guy with BK for a full year.