'15 FL ILB Cecil Cherry (Tennessee Verbal)

[woolybug25]

there is mention whether texas is going to go back to their roots and just start recruiting texas players and very close surrounding areas ---this was on a texas board

That sounds like they're trying to grasp to some type of hope. They certainly didn't take that tact last class, with the "Florida 5", which included Cherry.

Hasn't Strong always focused on Florida?

 

[dublinirish]

What in the hell is happening at Texas?

I like Strong, but he is taking a huge gamble with this hardnosed strategy that pushes players out of the program. He's lost five offensive linemen and a top end LB and the season hasn't even started yet. Sure, those that are left will be committed to the program, but who is gonna be left?

He'll either look like a genius or an idiot.

im guessing the UT powers that be have told him he will be given plenty of time to turn the program around hence this slow burning strategy of his

 

[koonja]

Imagine how many under the 85 limit if Strong was our coach. 15 would be out because of academics, and he'd get another 20 to transfer. We'd be having kickers play 3 ways.

 

[PANDFAN]

That sounds like they're trying to grasp to some type of hope. They certainly didn't take that tact last class, with the "Florida 5", which included Cherry.

Hasn't Strong always focused on Florida?

that has been his state....but the pressure is got to be mounting every day with the # of players leaving

 

[NDinL.A.]

What in the hell is happening at Texas?

I like Strong, but he is taking a huge gamble with this hardnosed strategy that pushes players out of the program. He's lost five offensive linemen and a top end LB and the season hasn't even started yet. Sure, those that are left will be committed to the program, but who is gonna be left?

He'll either look like a genius or an idiot.

In the case of this player, he was a headcase, he didn't want to compete for a spot, and he was just a bad fit. Apparently the kid didn't get along with his teammates, had a horrible attitude, and was pissed because he wasn't high enough on the depth chart. Judging by his teammates's reactions on twitter, he was not very well liked by anybody.

EDIT: Per a poster on another site who follows TX, he was getting reamed by coaches during the 1st 3 days of practice and didn't like it, he was pissed that he didn't get the number he wanted, and his dad (who never wanted him at TX in the first place) wanted him to transfer anyway.

So in THIS case Wooly, it was more of a bad fit from the jump and an example of poor recruiting (in the sense Charlie recruited a kid that didn't fit the culture he wanted. In that sense though, I guess it IS all on Charlie.)

 

[IrishLion]

So in THIS case Wooly, it was more of a bad fit from the jump and an example of poor recruiting (in the sense Charlie recruited a kid that didn't fit the culture he wanted. In that sense though, I guess it IS all on Charlie.)

It amazes me that two separate parties, making such a large decision in regards to one another, could make such a comically bad decision in terms of the fit lol.

 

[OCIrish]

Imagine how many under the 85 limit if Strong was our coach. 15 would be out because of academics, and he'd get another 20 to transfer. We'd be having kickers play 3 ways.

Koon, I repped ya bot for your post.......just because you're back!!! Been a while my old friend, glad to see you back!!

 

[irishfan]

That sounds like they're trying to grasp to some type of hope. They certainly didn't take that tact last class, with the "Florida 5", which included Cherry.

Hasn't Strong always focused on Florida?

Yes. Great connections there from his time under Urban at Florida. Most of his top talent from his Louisville classes came from Florida. Below is just the Florida talent from his first class at Louisville (2011). Guy has a great eye for talent and develops it well. I'm surprised he's off to such a sluggish start at Texas honestly.

Teddy Bridgewater (1st round)
Calvin Pryor (1st round)
John Miller (3rd round)
Charles Gaines (6th round)
Deiontrez Mount (6th round)
BJ Dubose (6th round)
Gerod Holliman (7th round)

 

[tko]

koon is back? what the hell?

 

[Irish#1]

It amazes me that two separate parties, making such a large decision in regards to one another, could make such a comically bad decision in terms of the fit lol.

Not really. You get a kid that is a primma donna and you're half way there. On the other side you see a recruit with mega talent and focus only on what he can do for the program and ignore the tell tale signs.

 

[IrishLion]

Not really. You get a kid that is a primma donna and you're half way there. On the other side you see a recruit with mega talent and focus only on what he can do for the program and ignore the tell tale signs.

That's what I'm saying though.

Charlie Strong doesn't deal with guys that aren't going to shut up and do the work. And yet he went after this kid, even though they probably had a pretty good idea about his personality? That's a comical mistake.

This kid knows he's not going to want to pay his dues when he gets to the next level. And yet he commits to a Charlie Strong team? That's a comical mistake.

The fact that these two sides couldn't be more different, and yet both went after each other, is hilarious.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Imagine how many under the 85 limit if Strong was our coach. 15 would be out because of academics, and he'd get another 20 to transfer. We'd be having kickers play 3 ways.

Holy sh*t just realized Koon is back! Welcome back buddy!

 

[T Town Tommy]

Recruiting Fla is a risk/reward for a lot of teams. Obviously Charlie still has influence in that state but my advice to him would be to win the state he is in now first and be selective in who he takes from Fla.

 

[Wild Bill]

Recruiting Fla is a risk/reward for a lot of teams. Obviously Charlie still has influence in that state but my advice to him would be to win the state he is in now first and be selective in who he takes from Fla.

Not enough talent in Texas.

 

[irishff1014]

I am surprised we don't see this more with the pedestals these kids are put on.

 

[dublinirish]

sounds like Cecil's father is a helicopter parent

 

[Legacy]

Texas Longhorns recruiting: How the "Florida Five" could become the "Florida One"

First two comments are to the point of OOC recruiting to Texas. Ex:

Trying to bring in as many as 10 OOS players in a class is ridiculous in the state of Texas. We dont even need 10 on the entire roster. 2-4 per class is all you should ever need at most. If we were a different state with a limited talent pool, thats one thing, that is definitely not the case here. Even with the emergence of Baylor, TCU and others, this is still the most talent rich state. So if you are able to offer some undersized 2 star kid from Florida, while not having equivalent offers to "hidden gem" players in Texas, its not gonna look great.

 

[stlnd01]

I am surprised we don't see this more with the pedestals these kids are put on.

Honestly, at this point the elite recruit who's a team player and puts in the three-to-four years of honest work to get better and win football games is probably more the exception than the rule. Especially when distance/culture are at all a factor.
I mean, what's our hit rate the last five years on truly elite recruits who pan out and stick around? Te'o. Tuitt. Jaylon. Some O linemen (but they're different). That's about it. Maybe better off with four-stars who want to be there.

 

[ThePiombino]

Honestly, at this point the elite recruit who's a team player and puts in the three-to-four years of honest work to get better and win football games is probably more the exception than the rule. Especially when distance/culture are at all a factor.
I mean, what's our hit rate the last five years on truly elite recruits who pan out and stick around? Te'o. Tuitt. Jaylon. Some O linemen (but they're different). That's about it. Maybe better off with four-stars who want to be there.

Could argue that Tuitt left too early, not to mention his antics cost Schwenke a year of eligibility.

 

[dublinirish]

transferring to USF

 

[Irish#1]

Honestly, at this point the elite recruit who's a team player and puts in the three-to-four years of honest work to get better and win football games is probably more the exception than the rule. Especially when distance/culture are at all a factor.
I mean, what's our hit rate the last five years on truly elite recruits who pan out and stick around? Te'o. Tuitt. Jaylon. Some O linemen (but they're different). That's about it. Maybe better off with four-stars who want to be there.

I wouldn't be surprised if most schools have a problem hanging on to some.