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If evil exists, which it does, then there is good. There is a light that can cast away darkness. Jesus is that light and the world needs Him. I believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, can transform sinners. How many of us have done detestable things as teenagers and well into adulthood? Should we be stigmatized our whole lives for our sin? Maybe, but Jesus died so that we can be free.

Did Josh Duggar ask forgiveness to his sisters? That is what is being said, and it is also said that the girls forgave him. Should there be consequences to his crime? I absolutely think so, but it seems like he went through that, and now his sin is coming to light and the whole world knows about it. I cannot imagine what was covered up by the family as I haven't been paying too close attention to reports, but who would broadcast these matters freely for everyone to hear or know about? Their kids were young and they wanted to protect them from public scrutiny, in regards to the aforementioned.

Inexcusable doesn't equate to unforgivable. We all need forgiveness, which is a real thing, a spiritual matter. It doesn't say that what he did was okay, but it means that you can cast your hurts on the Lord and leave the consequences up to Him.

Spare us with your sanctimonious bullsh!t. They didn't hide the story from the public to protect from scrutiny, they did it to protect him from the legal consequences of child molestation. You act like every parent would have done this, you are absolutely incorrect on that.

You're belief that as long as a child molester apologizes and claims to confessed, that they are somehow saved by God is disturbing. I know you will find people on here that agree with you, but I find it creepy as hell.
 

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If a youth (10-15 yr old) sex offender is turned in for treatment and adjudication, there's a very low recidivism rate.

If they're kept secret by their family, (who they offended and probably offended them,) the recidivism rate goes up exponentially.

It's not simple, and has nothing to do with a deity's forgiveness. Spirituality can be a great, but professional help is what's really important. Keeping it secret re-offends the victims and makes it more likely that someone else will get hurt.
 
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If a youth (10-15 yr old) sex offender is turned in for treatment and adjudication, there's a very low recidivism rate.

If they're kept secret by their family, (who they offended and probably offended them,) the recidivism rate goes up exponentially.

It's not simple, and has nothing to do with a deity's forgiveness. Spirituality can be a great, but professional help is what's really important. Keeping it secret re-offends the victims and makes it more likely that someone else will get hurt.

Sooo... are you saying that sending him to their child-porn offender friend for a stern talk wasn't "treatment"?
 

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anyone watch the Megyn Kelly interview of the parents?
tell me momma duggar aint highly medicated...or maybe brainwashed. or both. coupled with those wight walker eyes, grovelly voice-- creepy as hell!

Megyn Kelly is actually pretty hot
 

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anyone watch the Megyn Kelly interview of the parents?
tell me momma duggar aint highly medicated...or maybe brainwashed. or both. coupled with those wight walker eyes, grovelly voice-- creepy as hell!
White walker. Or wight. Not wight walker.

Megyn Kelly is actually pretty hot
Pretty hot?

Separately: Sarah Palin made a pretty good point today. Why is everyone all outraged over the Duggars but nobody seems concerned that Lena Dunham molested her sister?
 

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Pretty hot?

Separately: Sarah Palin made a pretty good point today. Why is everyone all outraged over the Duggars but nobody seems concerned that Lena Dunham molested her sister?

Lena was seven years old. Not even a fair comparison. As all ways Sarah shit the bed.
 

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Lena was seven years old. Not even a fair comparison. As all ways Sarah shit the bed.
Edit because I was mistaken about age. I don't care.

Lena Dunham said:
One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me. Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn’t resist and when I saw what was inside I shrieked.
 
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Pretty hot?

Separately: Sarah Palin made a pretty good point today. Why is everyone all outraged over the Duggars but nobody seems concerned that Lena Dunham molested her sister?

Lena Dunham molested Sarah Palins' sister?
 
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You’re right, Sarah Palin! People are absolved from answering for their own behavior by pointing out that of someone else, even if it’s inequivalent!

What a clown, mother of five, doing the same pointing thing our kids did when they were small and trying to avoid getting in trouble!
 

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What a gross degradation of duty. Down right criminal.

In that state, sexual abuse is explicitly defined as any forcible sexual act done to a person under the age of 18, regardless of the age of the perpetrator. Therefore, when the alleged abuse was discovered by Jim Bob Duggar, church elders, the police, and the state's protective services, one might have expected several actions to occur. Yet, there were striking failures throughout the case.

According to Jim Bob Duggar's account, made to police, he learned of the alleged abuse in 2002. He did not report it to police or anyone else. When new allegations surfaced in 2003, he told church elders ("mandated reporters" in Arkansas), who also did not report the abuse. The family and the church decided to send the perpetrator to what they called a Christian work camp for a few months as his punishment and repentance, and he reportedly apologized to his victims.

After the perpetrator of the sexual abuse returned home, Jim Bob told police he spoke with a state trooper about the issue. The trooper purportedly gave the perpetrator a stern talking to, In Touch magazine reported.

Before the family was scheduled to appear on her show in 2006, Oprah Winfrey was tipped off to the alleged abuse -- more than three years after the first time Jim Bob Duggar told police he'd learned of it. She did report the allegations. A police investigation followed.

Here is where the system really begins to fall apart. Police apparently "investigated" the allegations but never spoke with the alleged perpetrator. That's correct. The subject of the investigation was never investigated. Realizing that the three-year statute of limitations had expired, the police then referred the case to the state's Department of Human Services for further investigation, In Touch reported.

In Duggar scandal, a troubling message to girls - CNN.com

I was unaware that Oprah Winfrey herself reported it. Crazy that after the parents, their church and police (all mandated reporters, btw) chose to look the other way, it took Oprah freaking Winfrey to make a call before anything was done. Disgusting.
 

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And even the Oprah-mandated investigation resulted in nothing.

That's crazy.
 

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Dan Carlin did an interesting podcast awhile ago on leaking information like this. One aspect he touched on was people releasing untrue information and how difficult it would be combat that. Imagine your name being released on this Ashley Madison list and you were not ever on it, it would be tough to fight that. That being said, I'm sure the douche did it.
 

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Dan Carlin did an interesting podcast awhile ago on leaking information like this. One aspect he touched on was people releasing untrue information and how difficult it would be combat that. Imagine your name being released on this Ashley Madison list and you were not ever on it, it would be tough to fight that. That being said, I'm sure the douche did it.
Can't give reps, but I want to for the Dan Carlin reference.

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