'16 IN WR Austin Mack (Ohio State Verbal)

[BeauBenken]

Worst sales pitch?

I'd say the odds are enormously more in favor of OSU getting back to a national title game than Mack being an All-American, the OSU degree doing amazing things for him after he's done, and several other recruiting pitches he was likely sold on.

There's zero downside for Meyer to say something like that. So why not guarantee it?

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[dublinirish]

No thread for Ben Skowronek that I can see, but thought this was worth a laugh:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ben getting recruited with burritos �� <a href="https://twitter.com/BSkowronek10">@BSkowronek10</a> <a href="http://t.co/bXcF0y9OrS">pic.twitter.com/bXcF0y9OrS</a></p>— Austin Mack (@Austin_Mack10) <a href="https://twitter.com/Austin_Mack10/status/597890092204576771">May 11, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cincinnati Using Chipotle Proximity As a Recruiting Pitch | The Big Lead

Oh, Cincinnati...

Showrenek spurned Skyline Chilli U for Northwestern. Obviously a big deep dish pizza man

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Ill take the two ND took from Ohio over the two OSU took from Indiana. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the four players, but I do like a good Oline.

If OSU is getting into Fort Wayne and more importantly, AWP, ND may want to rethink recruiting strategies, because both Robertson and Mack are ND kids. They didn't choose Notre Dame because it wasn't a good fit.

You win some, you lose some.

 

[Irish Storm]

Ill take the two ND took from Ohio over the two OSU took from Indiana. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the four players, but I do like a good Oline.

If OSU is getting into Fort Wayne and more importantly, AWP, ND may want to rethink recruiting strategies, because both Robertson and Mack are ND kids. They didn't choose Notre Dame because it wasn't a good fit.

You win some, you lose some.

These kids are choosing OSU and MSU over ND because they are winning big. Its that simple.

 

[Luckylucci]

These kids are choosing OSU and MSU over ND because they are winning big. Its that simple.

No its really not that simple. Couldn't be further from the truth but keep on keeping on.

 

[NCND]

These kids are choosing OSU and MSU over ND because they are winning big. Its that simple.

Exactly. Need proof: Check out ND's class when they went 12-1. Winning BIG matters.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I think we lost Mack do to the fact of the depth Chart. I honestly think Mack could come in and play right away at OSU, ND not so much. He will have a tough time seeing time his freshman year even his sophmore year. Roberston I think we lost on due to the fact A. Gilmore was't here long and didn't get a change to establish a long relationship with him and B. schools scared him with the school work he would have to do at ND>

 

[gkIrish]

Showrenek spurned Skyline Chilli U for Northwestern. Obviously a big deep dish pizza man

I won't stand for Cincinnati jokes now that I moved here.

 

[Irish Storm]

No its really not that simple. Couldn't be further from the truth but keep on keeping on.

Check out the onfield performabce of those programs compared to ours since the bama game. Pretty big difference. Yes these kids want a llife while in school but they will put up with the academic rigors of ND as long as the program is winning big.

 

[BobbyMac]

Just switched to MSU.

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[GBdomer]

Just switched to MSU.

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You really aren't taking this MSU recruiting cycle to well are you? Prayers sent

 

[BobbyMac]

You really aren't taking this MSU recruiting cycle to well are you? Prayers sent

I really don't care that much... but it is reaching Seinfeld episode levels in its mania.

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[Luckylucci]

Check out the onfield performabce of those programs compared to ours since the bama game. Pretty big difference. Yes these kids want a llife while in school but they will put up with the academic rigors of ND as long as the program is winning big.

It is 100% accurate to say that your previous statement is wrong. It's not just about winning. Does that have something g to do with it, of course. However, it's not the only thing that matters. For somebody that seems to follow this as much as you portray I would think you'd know this.

 

[Irish Storm]

It is 100% accurate to say that your previous statement is wrong. It's not just about winning. Does that have something g to do with it, of course. However, it's not the only thing that matters. For somebody that seems to follow this as much as you portray I would think you'd know this.

I said that these kids want a life. ND doesnt allow them much of one. Winnungcbig makes it more tolerable however.

 

[Luckylucci]

These kids are choosing OSU and MSU over ND because they are winning big. Its that simple.

No you did not say that, this is what you said. My response was, this isn't the only reason. Now your proving my point, they want other things out of college than just winning, end of discussion

 

[Irish#1]

No you did not say that, this is what you said. My response was, this isn't the only reason. Now your proving my point, they want other things out of college than just winning, end of discussion

Ever feel like your talking to a teenager? lol

 

[dublinirish]

I won't stand for Cincinnati jokes now that I moved here.

aha scroll back a few pages of this thread for some culinary recommendations in your local area

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I think we lost Mack do to the fact of the depth Chart. I honestly think Mack could come in and play right away at OSU, ND not so much. He will have a tough time seeing time his freshman year even his sophmore year. Roberston I think we lost on due to the fact A. Gilmore was't here long and didn't get a change to establish a long relationship with him and B. schools scared him with the school work he would have to do at ND>

1. Mack would have played ND as a freshman and would be fighting to start his sophomore year more than likely. I don't think people understand how advanced he is as a WR. I know it was one-on-one, but he absolutely shreaded Roderick Campbell and Damar Hamlin in Columbus. You had some great WR prospects in Columbus and Mack stood head and shoulders above them all. Then you realize Mack hasn't done anything competitively since his season ended and that was his first time doing anything that level in 7 months.

2. Gilmore was at ND for almost 4 months. Plenty of time. Elston was his recruiter and from what I have heard from those around Robertson, he didn't exactly give him a ton to think about when it came to MSU/ND. The whole academic thing is overrated. Robertson knows that he could succeed at Notre Dame, or he wouldn't have taken so many damn visits there.

Like I have stated before, these commits come down to relationships. Mack had better relationships with the OSU players and Robertson had better relationships with the MSU players. Same goes for Kraemer and Eichenberg at ND.

Kids want to get a good degree, want to win games and titles, but they aren't going to go to a place they don't have good relationships with the players and that isn't going to change. Why do you think it's so hard for Midwest schools to consistently get top kids from the South? They want to play with their friends and kids like themselves.

I am not saying the depth chart and relationships with the different staffs didnt hurt ND, but that is not the primary reason ND lost those two.

 

[dublinirish]

wasn't both tight with drue tranquill though?

 

[TheTurningPoint]

wasn't both tight with drue tranquill though?

They are friends, but I wouldn't say they are as close to him as Jaylon.

Tranquill is from a well off family and attended a high school without a ton of minorities.

Robertson and Mack are from a more diverse area in Fort Wayne.

Not saying anything is wrong with either, but I think you get my point. They aren't going to have much in common with Tranquill other than they are from Fort Wayne and work out at AWP.

 

[dublinirish]

They are friends, but I wouldn't say they are as close to him as Jaylon.

Tranquill is from a well off family and attended a high school without a ton of minorities.

Robertson and Mack are from a more diverse area in Fort Wayne.

Not saying anything is wrong with either, but I think you get my point. They aren't going to have much in common with Tranquill other than they are from Fort Wayne and work out at AWP.

yeah i get your point and thanks for your original post. I guess most people overestimated the effect ND would have on these kids considering the recent success ND has had in recruiting the Fort Wayne area. I know if hurts for some of the Indiana natives on here as they want their state's best recruits locked up by ND but it wasn't too be and both parties will move on and I think most fans would wish Robertson and Mack well

 

[Classic Irish]

These kids are choosing OSU and MSU over ND because they are winning big. Its that simple.

This guy was outed as a troll on another board and is continuing the same crap here. Ignore him.

 

[NDPhilly]

This guy was outed as a troll on another board and is continuing the same crap here. Ignore him.

What it's not like he's wrong

 

[TheTurningPoint]

yeah i get your point and thanks for your original post. I guess most people overestimated the effect ND would have on these kids considering the recent success ND has had in recruiting the Fort Wayne area. I know if hurts for some of the Indiana natives on here as they want their state's best recruits locked up by ND but it wasn't too be and both parties will move on and I think most fans would wish Robertson and Mack well

Oh I get that. And I think the Notre Dame staff took part of that for granted until the last few months. Both kids would have fit into ND really well, but they also fit into many programs well. It's just the type of kids they are.

 

[dad4aa]

Oh I get that. And I think the Notre Dame staff took part of that for granted until the last few months. Both kids would have fit into ND really well, but they also fit into many programs well. It's just the type of kids they are.

Just for conversation purposes, if ND has the type of year we are all hoping for and makes it to the playoffs...or better yet the NC game, will we have a chance to flip some of these Midwest kids or will it still come down to the relationships with the other players?

 

[dublinirish]

Just for conversation purposes, if ND has the type of year we are all hoping for and makes it to the playoffs...or better yet the NC game, will we have a chance to flip some of these Midwest kids or will it still come down to the relationships with the other players?

problem is MSU and OSU are going to have good seasons too and even UM can't be any worse than they were before so they will be showing progress too. Too many dominoes to fall there I think..

 

[Irish Storm]

What it's not like he's wrong

They dont want to hear the truth.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

1. Mack would have played ND as a freshman and would be fighting to start his sophomore year more than likely. I don't think people understand how advanced he is as a WR. I know it was one-on-one, but he absolutely shreaded Roderick Campbell and Damar Hamlin in Columbus. You had some great WR prospects in Columbus and Mack stood head and shoulders above them all. Then you realize Mack hasn't done anything competitively since his season ended and that was his first time doing anything that level in 7 months.

2. Gilmore was at ND for almost 4 months. Plenty of time. Elston was his recruiter and from what I have heard from those around Robertson, he didn't exactly give him a ton to think about when it came to MSU/ND. The whole academic thing is overrated. Robertson knows that he could succeed at Notre Dame, or he wouldn't have taken so many damn visits there.

Like I have stated before, these commits come down to relationships. Mack had better relationships with the OSU players and Robertson had better relationships with the MSU players. Same goes for Kraemer and Eichenberg at ND.

Kids want to get a good degree, want to win games and titles, but they aren't going to go to a place they don't have good relationships with the players and that isn't going to change. Why do you think it's so hard for Midwest schools to consistently get top kids from the South? They want to play with their friends and kids like themselves.

I am not saying the depth chart and relationships with the different staffs didnt hurt ND, but that is not the primary reason ND lost those two.

I agree with everything you stated but not sure if Mack would have started by his Sophomore year. Could he, yes. But if Fuller stays it might have been a long shot. We will have Fuller still, Proise still, Brent, Hunter Jr. Holmes, Guyton, Sanders, Robinson, Boykin, St. Brown, and Alize Jones playing some WR. Granted we haven't see anything from Holmes Brent or any freshman. But I believe that all 5 Freshman plus brent and holmes could all break out and be stars.

 

[BobbyMac]

They dont want to hear the truth. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER..

FIFY


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[BobbyMac]

I agree with everything you stated but not sure if Mack would have started by his Sophomore year. Could he, yes. But if Fuller stays it might have been a long shot. We will have Fuller still, Proise still, Brent, Hunter Jr. Holmes, Guyton, Sanders, Robinson, Boykin, St. Brown, and Alize Jones playing some WR. Granted we haven't see anything from Holmes Brent or any freshman. But I believe that all 5 Freshman plus brent and holmes could all break out and be stars.

I rarely disagree with TP but he wasn't starting in year two and year one was redshirt only.

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