'16 IN DE Auston Robertson (MSU Verbal)

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Tin-foil time:

It seemed like that around the '11 and '12 seasons, BK was recruiting without pressure, as if he KNEW things would fall into place, because he KNEW his team was going to be one of the best in the country.

Perhaps he's feeling that way again?

I don't think thats tin-foil hat at all. I think that BK largely believes, in fact he's said so, that winning is a great help or hindrance. The only problem I have with that is we've had some fairly good football teams that didn't produce on the field like we expected. Now, recruiting up to this point as been pretty solid but I think we are starting to reach that point where the 2012 NCG story is losing its flavor and its put up or shut up time. If we win 10+ regular season games, I can see this class closing like some of those others. However, if we don't, this approach won't look quite and good.
 

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Tin-foil time:

It seemed like that around the '11 and '12 seasons, BK was recruiting without pressure, as if he KNEW things would fall into place, because he KNEW his team was going to be one of the best in the country.

Perhaps he's feeling that way again?

That is some heavy duty tin foil. That team won 5 games by 1 score. If he had confidence going in that the results of that season would recruit themselves, that team underachieved.
 

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Obviously both Auston and Austin had really good things to say following the visit but I don't see it changing anything. We played to Mack's wants by talking about the offense and how much he'd be used and how. With Robertson we hammered the academics with Sargeant.
 

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I could definitely see myself playing there and being a part of the Irish," Mack said shortly after the visit. "It was a lot of time with Coach Kelly and just eating lunch with him was pretty special and unique."

"It was cool," Robertson said. "Coach Kelly's message today really wasn't about football, it was just about the academics, and how I could thrive academically at the school. He talked about the graduation rate and everything like that."

Rumors have circulated that he's concerned about the academic demands of a student athlete at Notre Dame, and that's why Kelly and recruiting coordinator Mike Elston made sure that academic counselor Adam Sargent was a focal point of the visit.

"My position coach [Keith Gilmore] was out of town recruiting so it was a lot of talking with Elston and Kelly and the academic people … It helped a lot with where they stand in my recruitment," Robertson said.

The plan — originally — was for Robertson and Mack to visit on Saturday, but because the trip was pushed up a day, Robertson's mother wasn't able to make it. According to the 6-5, 250-pound defensive end, he doesn't think that will play much of a factor in his decision, and he said there's a chance that he could return to campus with his mother before a decision is made.

"I haven't had a chance to talk with my mom about that yet," Robertson said. "I'm not sure if I will have the time, but I will if I can."

"It's '4 for 40' at Notre Dame," Mack said. "He said that he would love to use me in their system and that I would be a fit."


"Drue was in town and he went out to eat with us and just kept it real," Mack said. "That's our boy. He's basically just telling us that he knows what we're going through, but he's praying for us and wants us to make the right decision for the right reasons."

"I'm trying to get out as much of possible from each coach and each school, because in the end, I have to make a decision," Mack said.


- See more at: https://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1770259#sthash.0jDejaZv.dpuf
 

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I could definitely see myself playing there and being a part of the Irish," Mack said shortly after the visit. "It was a lot of time with Coach Kelly and just eating lunch with him was pretty special and unique."

"It was cool," Robertson said. "Coach Kelly's message today really wasn't about football, it was just about the academics, and how I could thrive academically at the school. He talked about the graduation rate and everything like that."

Rumors have circulated that he's concerned about the academic demands of a student athlete at Notre Dame, and that's why Kelly and recruiting coordinator Mike Elston made sure that academic counselor Adam Sargent was a focal point of the visit.

"My position coach [Keith Gilmore] was out of town recruiting so it was a lot of talking with Elston and Kelly and the academic people … It helped a lot with where they stand in my recruitment," Robertson said.

The plan — originally — was for Robertson and Mack to visit on Saturday, but because the trip was pushed up a day, Robertson's mother wasn't able to make it. According to the 6-5, 250-pound defensive end, he doesn't think that will play much of a factor in his decision, and he said there's a chance that he could return to campus with his mother before a decision is made.

"I haven't had a chance to talk with my mom about that yet," Robertson said. "I'm not sure if I will have the time, but I will if I can."

"It's '4 for 40' at Notre Dame," Mack said. "He said that he would love to use me in their system and that I would be a fit."


"Drue was in town and he went out to eat with us and just kept it real," Mack said. "That's our boy. He's basically just telling us that he knows what we're going through, but he's praying for us and wants us to make the right decision for the right reasons."

"I'm trying to get out as much of possible from each coach and each school, because in the end, I have to make a decision," Mack said.


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Drue?
 

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Drue Tranquill. Newcomer of the year in 2014. Tore ACL in Louisville game and is trying to work his way back.

He's pretty much back. BK said that he could have played during the Spring Game if it was actually a game. Freakish recovery. Super excited about him. Sorry for getting OT.
 

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I'd still like to see a return trip with mom.
 

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I'd still like to see a return trip with mom.

It's something we're trying for and something he's considering. Not sure I like the chances it occurs but if it did I'd change my tune a little.
 

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UNLESS mom comes back w/ him we out...his mom made the trip to michigan which was on saturday...the same day he was going to be at ND but bumped the visit to friday so mom could go to michigan...mack family also was in attendance at UM during his visit..neither set of parents/family have made the trip to ND
 

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Getting an in state mom on campus should be easy enough. No mom = no ND, IMO.
 

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ND was never really a player here. Just like pOSU fans have to accept that Kraemer and Eichenberg were never a fit in Columbus, folks gotta accept that despite being great Indiana prospects Robertson and Mack aren't fits
 

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UNLESS mom comes back w/ him we out...his mom made the trip to michigan which was on saturday...the same day he was going to be at ND but bumped the visit to friday so mom could go to michigan...mack family also was in attendance at UM during his visit..neither set of parents/family have made the trip to ND

Why do I keep feeling Jimmy H. has poisoned the minds of them and their parents against ND?
 

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UNLESS mom comes back w/ him we out...his mom made the trip to michigan which was on saturday...the same day he was going to be at ND but bumped the visit to friday so mom could go to michigan...mack family also was in attendance at UM during his visit..neither set of parents/family have made the trip to ND

FWIW, Mack's mother has been to campus at least once. I believe it was a bowl game practice, not entirely sure when but I know it happened.

However, I agree with the general consensus that we have zero shot without another visit.
 

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FWIW, Mack's mother has been to campus at least once. I believe it was a bowl game practice, not entirely sure when but I know it happened.

However, I agree with the general consensus that we have zero shot without another visit.

this was coach D :That's just me reading things, I could be dead wrong, but ND has been trying to get both of these kid's families on campus and they haven't done it. Yet they head to Michigan? Hopefully ND can flip this and get their families on campus.

maybe he just meant recently idk
 

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Why do I keep feeling Jimmy H. has poisoned the minds of them and their parents against ND?

I dunno. Why? Harbaugh's not particularly anti-Notre Dame is he?
Michigan recruits well for its own reasons, but I've always thought Urban's a bigger neg-recruiting threat to us b/c he can play the "I coached there. I know what a wonderful place it is, but..." card.
 

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this was coach D :That's just me reading things, I could be dead wrong, but ND has been trying to get both of these kid's families on campus and they haven't done it. Yet they head to Michigan? Hopefully ND can flip this and get their families on campus.

maybe he just meant recently idk

Robertson's mother doesn't seem to have any influence on his recruitment which in this scenario doesn't work for ND as we're not changing his mind without some outside influence. Mack's mother is a fairly public ND fan, even wore ND gear on that visit she came on. Put it on twitter and made some posts about it. Once again though Mack just doesn't want what ND is.
 

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Notable riser here, up 91 spots from No. 202 to No. 111 in the rankings.

Just in time for him to commit to MSU, lol
 

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Mack's mother was at Notre Dame for Junior Day, at Michigan this past weekend and in Columbus watching her son at The Opening Regionals with her daughter and family friends.

She isn't as active as some parents in Austin's recruitment, but she has seen and been apart of the schools he is choosing from.

Robertson's mother has been less active, but I don't think that really mattered in this recruitment. If he chooses Notre Dame, no one cares about it. There are plenty of kids Notre Dame gets that their parents arent involved in their decision. Does it help sure. But when push comes to shove, the kid is 99% of the time going to choose the school he feels the most comfortable at with the players regardless of academics, football program, coaching staff, etc.
 
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Mack's mother was at Notre Dame for Junior Day, at Michigan this past weekend and in Columbus watching her son at The Opening Regionals with her daughter and family friends.

She isn't as active as some parents in Austin's recruitment, but she has seen and been apart of the schools he is choosing from.

Robertson's mother has been less active, but I don't think that really mattered in this recruitment. If he chooses Notre Dame, no one cares about it. There are plenty of kids Notre Dame gets that their parents arent involved in their decision. Does it help sure. But when push comes to shove, the kid is 99% of the time going to choose the school he feels the most comfortable at with the players regardless of academics, football program, coaching staff, etc.

So whose parents are active in Austin's recruitment? lol
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So that was over quickly. DE Auston Robertson, who announces in approx 2 hours: <a href="http://t.co/BB1xMl9UTC">http://t.co/BB1xMl9UTC</a> <a href="http://t.co/kY3IehMp7P">pic.twitter.com/kY3IehMp7P</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/607609559306391552">June 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Who got MSU in the pool? E'rybody? Thought so...
 

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Man, MSU ... smh

Not that I thought he was going anywhere else, just that they are flipping the switch and getting 4-5 star guys now. If they can coach them up like they have 2-3 star guys, that D is going to be tough.
 

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Man, MSU ... smh

Not that I thought he was going anywhere else, just that they are flipping the switch and getting 4-5 star guys now. If they can coach them up like they have 2-3 star guys, that D is going to be tough.

They get to beat up on Michigan and OSU, lol. That's not too bad. Besides, MSU is a very different school and he probably wouldn't fit here that well if he'd choose them. If he's happy with his choice and gets to smack around Harbaugh, I'm ok with that.

However, I'm still hoping he changes his mind and comes here anyway.
 

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I could definitely see myself playing there and being a part of the Irish," Mack said shortly after the visit. "It was a lot of time with Coach Kelly and just eating lunch with him was pretty special and unique."

"It was cool," Robertson said. "Coach Kelly's message today really wasn't about football, it was just about the academics, and how I could thrive academically at the school. He talked about the graduation rate and everything like that."

Rumors have circulated that he's concerned about the academic demands of a student athlete at Notre Dame, and that's why Kelly and recruiting coordinator Mike Elston made sure that academic counselor Adam Sargent was a focal point of the visit.

"My position coach [Keith Gilmore] was out of town recruiting so it was a lot of talking with Elston and Kelly and the academic people … It helped a lot with where they stand in my recruitment," Robertson said.

The plan — originally — was for Robertson and Mack to visit on Saturday, but because the trip was pushed up a day, Robertson's mother wasn't able to make it. According to the 6-5, 250-pound defensive end, he doesn't think that will play much of a factor in his decision, and he said there's a chance that he could return to campus with his mother before a decision is made.

"I haven't had a chance to talk with my mom about that yet," Robertson said. "I'm not sure if I will have the time, but I will if I can."

"It's '4 for 40' at Notre Dame," Mack said. "He said that he would love to use me in their system and that I would be a fit."


"Drue was in town and he went out to eat with us and just kept it real," Mack said. "That's our boy. He's basically just telling us that he knows what we're going through, but he's praying for us and wants us to make the right decision for the right reasons."

"I'm trying to get out as much of possible from each coach and each school, because in the end, I have to make a decision," Mack said.


- See more at: https://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1770259#sthash.0jDejaZv.dpuf

I am never one to use this excuse when we lose a recruit. But since this was mentioned just a week ago when he came for his visit and then he chooses MSU the next week, could there be some truth to this rumor?
 

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Losing to of the best defensive players in the midwest to MSU is pretty damn sad.
 

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I am never one to use this excuse when we lose a recruit. But since this was mentioned just a week ago when he came for his visit and then he chooses MSU the next week, could there be some truth to this rumor?

There is a lot of truth to it and a lot of neg recruiting against ND.
 
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