'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[pkt77242]

It actually requires very little effort... just a pair of eyeballs and crap like this:

Ugh. I was at that game, are you trying to make my nightmares come back?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Ugh. I was at that game, are you trying to make my nightmares come back?

He's blackmailing you for your whiskey.

 

[Luckylucci]

I've read a lot of petty posts regarding Golson, mostly the usual vindictive stuff that spurned fans always write.

But to go to these lengths to belittle and brush aside everything Golson did at Notre Dame? This is the new leader in the clubhouse for worst post on the subject.

I agree, this thread has become disappointing much like all the other threads on what I consider far inferior boards.

 

[wizards8507]

Ugh. I was at that game, are you trying to make my nightmares come back?

It didn't come across as a comedy of errors in person? I think I was laughing by halftime. My wife loved it. She hated Golson from day one and actively cheered for his failure.

 

[pkt77242]

It didn't come across as a comedy of errors in person? I think I was laughing by halftime. My wife loved it. She hated Golson from day one and actively cheered for his failure.

I was only laughing so that I wouldn't cry. It wasn't easy being surrounded by ASU fans (well except a few of the hot students).

 

[dang227]

Florida State Seminoles: Why Everett Golson ditched Notre Dame to win title at FSU | FOX Sports

 

[Irish Insanity]

Feldman reports Everett Golson training with Amir Carlisle under the watch of @georgewhitfield. Golson wearing ND gear, with FSU playbook.

 

[IrishLion]

That headline is misleading; I expected to read about Golson saying that he thought he had a better chance of winning a title at FSU. Instead, the headline is based off of a generic throw-away quote at the end about how Golson wants to win a championship, just like everyone else.

I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does haha.

 

[ACamp1900]

I read the article and thought about the headline also,... it's typical, but I think it doesn't bother me all that much because, well yeah, he does have a better chance at a title at FSU right now

 

[IrishLion]

I will say that the article actually spins ND in a pretty positive light. It touches on how ND blocked Golson from Texas, but Golson's quote about the matter was a good answer, as is Feldman's quick follow-up on how ND compliance helped Golson through the process:

Another option Golson had considered, Texas, also was out of the picture....

"I would've definitely entertained it, but just knowing that I couldn't, it kinda limited me," Golson said. "It was pretty awkward, but it was kind of expected. It would've been interesting to see Texas. They (Notre Dame) basically limited me to the schools that we wouldn't play. I wasn't really surprised by it."

Asked about his reaction when he heard Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick denied talk that the school blocked any of Golson's transfer options, the 22-year-old said: "I just kinda left it alone. The biggest thing for me was I wanted to be somewhere down south, too. They didn't necessarily block me from something I was strongly considering except maybe Texas."

Golson said he understands why Notre Dame wouldn't want its former starting QB, a guy who has thrown for almost 6,000 career yards with 41 career TDs against just 20 INTs, going to a team that would face them in Week 1.

"I might know a little bit too much," he said through a laugh. Besides, he appreciates how ND compliance tried to help him through what was a very nerve-wracking process.

 

[IrishLax]

That headline is misleading; I expected to read about Golson saying that he thought he had a better chance of winning a title at FSU. Instead, the headline is based off of a generic throw-away quote at the end about how Golson wants to win a championship, just like everyone else.

I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does haha.

Same. Feldman is above click-baiting, but his editors that choose the titles for stories are not. It's funny because you can tell that there were multiple iterations of the same idea, because some of the auto-text from hyperlinks reads "Golson ditches Notre Dame for title at FSU" while the actual header reads "Why Everett Golson bolted Notre Dame to win title at FSU." Both working off a completely throw away quote.

I'm confused on the whole blocking thing, but I believe we didn't block him from anywhere. I bet you there were conversations where we expressed that we didn't want him going to an opponent on this year's schedule and would attempt to stop that transfer if he tried, but I'm 99.9% sure we didn't actually "block" him from anywhere. I'm 100% sure Jack Swarbick would not say definitively that we didn't block him unless he truly believes that. And it's telling that Golson thanks ND for helping with the transfer, and that from day 1 all insiders said he was headed to FSU.

I'll be very interested to see how this all plays out.

 

[Wingman Ray]

What kills me is that everyone says FSU has such a better chance to win a NC than ND. Why? Yes ND plays USC and Stan. I dont see Stanford any bit better and probably worse than they were last year. FSU has been as successful as it has been the past two years because they have had a 5 star, #1 draft pick all world QB running their show. He is gone. The players at FSU today are not better than NDs.

Yes ND allowed lack of recruiting depth to decimate their season as it wore on. Yes, Golson made a lot of turn overs. No, ND did not produce in areas it should have last year (run game).

But I do not see how anyone can say 2015 FSU will be any bit better than 2015 ND.

 

[ACamp1900]

Maybe there is some confusion here... FSU in this case stand for FLORIDA state, not Fresno state...

 

[ShakeDown]

I would put our CBs way above FSUs with the graduation of Darby

I would put our OL way above FSUs

I would put our WRs above FSUs

Prior to Golson, FSU had nothing in the tank QB wise

I dont know on RBs or TEs.

DL I give FSU. LBs I probably give FSU since we have one pro quality LB with experience

Lol, someone only follows ND recruiting.

 

[IrishLion]

I would take our WR's over FSU's.

OL is a wash, but I think I would take ours when considering youth/potential for the future.

I would take our TE's.

Everything else is probably FSU, though there are arguments that could be made at certain places.

 

[ACamp1900]

I definitely think we have the better Quarter back...

 

[Irish Insanity]

I would take our fanbase.

 

[ShakeDown]

I would take our WR's over FSU's.

OL is a wash, but I think I would take ours when considering youth/potential for the future.

I would take our TE's.

Everything else is probably FSU, though there are arguments that could be made at certain places.

You'd take our WRs over Lane, Rudolph, Wilson and Campbell?

I'd agree with OL and TE.

 

[NCND]

I would only take our O Line.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'll take the degree.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

A) I will bet Golson never even approached Swarbrick, Kelly, or ND compliance about playing for Texas. So that makes Jack's statement actually truthful. But the way Golson wove it in the article made it seem like he had asked to go to Texas and it was blocked. That is why Golson did no longer fit at ND. Just like when a couple goes different ways. I have a gut feeling Golson is being just a tad disingenuous about all of this!

B) ND has more speed that FSU. There I said it! That is the first part. I don't get anyone who doesn't think we have the best offensive line, one of the best linebacker corps, and a really good defensive line.

As far as skill positions, both teams have talent, ND's is better tested, and the receiver talent ND is bringing in is unreal, (and will not be appreciated until next year at this time.)

C) An important point : Our receivers don't play against their receivers; Fuller, Robinson, Brown, (etc.,) made Darby & Co., look like they (the FSU defensive backfield), were having a group masturbatory party last fall. I didn't see our decimated defensive backfield look that bad. And Golson will not be able to play against BVG's defense!
Howszat!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I would take our WR's over FSU's.

OL is a wash, but I think I would take ours when considering youth/potential for the future.

I would take our TE's.

Everything else is probably FSU, though there are arguments that could be made at certain places.

You are kidding, aren't you?

 

[Wingman Ray]

You'd take our WRs over Lane, Rudolph, Wilson and Campbell?

I'd agree with OL and TE.

You forget how good a #1 pick QB can make WRs look. We will see this year how good they are.

As for the TE, it is up in the air. Ive seen nothing to impress with our current TE stable (not including income freshman) and I have zero knowledge of their TE situation. Since I havent heard anything big on FSU's TE situation, Im assuming it isnt anything worldbreaking.

Last year we should have won at FSU with Jamison. This year we would win hands down sans Jamison. They lost a lot and we lost nothing.

 

[ACamp1900]

Last year we should have won at FSU with Jamison. This year we would win hands down sans Jamison. They lost a lot and we lost nothing.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you think ND will be better than 7-5 this year...

 

[ShakeDown]

You forget how good a #1 pick QB can make WRs look. We will see this year how good they are.

As for the TE, it is up in the air. Ive seen nothing to impress with our current TE stable (not including income freshman) and I have zero knowledge of their TE situation. Since I havent heard anything big on FSU's TE situation, Im assuming it isnt anything worldbreaking.

Last year we should have won at FSU with Jamison. This year we would win hands down sans Jamison. They lost a lot and we lost nothing.

The only thing I forgot to mention was De'Vonte Phillips, the other top 10 wr FSU signed last year...

 

[IrishLion]

You'd take our WRs over Lane, Rudolph, Wilson and Campbell?

I'd agree with OL and TE.

I would. It has a lot to do with the proven depth that ND has, whereas FSU has those three guys and not much proven after that.

I think with a greater focus on slot receivers, Carlisle/Prosise could be the difference-maker that Wilson can be.

I like Fuller over Rudolph as a no.1 receiver.

And though Lane is going to be a stud, I think I like ND's situation better this season, being able to use Brown for speed or Robinson for catch-radius.

Maybe I'm discounting FSU's unproven receivers too much, though.

 

[IrishLion]

You are kidding, aren't you?

I would take our OL straight-up, but I tried to reconcile being a homer with the nice draft that FSU had along the OL this past year.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I would take our OL straight-up, but I tried to reconcile being a homer with the nice draft that FSU had along the OL this past year.

O'Leary and the beef-crust of their line is gone.

ND returns a left tackle that is being called the best in the nation. Three other experienced players have plenty of starts, and by all accounts have gotten much better. McGlinchey is a road grader. He has developed a habit of wiping out whatever is in front of him, against USC and LSU (two great d-lines) he began to dominate.

Matt Hegarty didn't come back, but will start at Oregon. Why? The kids coming up are monsters! I bet our left guard gets some Freshman All American honors this year!

 

[ShakeDown]

I would. It has a lot to do with the proven depth that ND has, whereas FSU has those three guys and not much proven after that.

I think with a greater focus on slot receivers, Carlisle/Prosise could be the difference-maker that Wilson can be.

I like Fuller over Rudolph as a no.1 receiver.

And though Lane is going to be a stud, I think I like ND's situation better this season, being able to use Brown for speed or Robinson for catch-radius.

Maybe I'm discounting FSU's unproven receivers too much, though.

I love ND as much as the next guy, and this is all opinion of course, but for the sake of conversation I'll throw out one last argument.

Top to bottom their depth chart is full of 5 and 4

Our #1 wr (and top ranked by the services) is a composite 4 (by a sliver) overall #276

Now, I know stars only matter prior to getting the kid on the field. But saying stars don't matter is like saying money can't buy happiness... It might not but it sure doesn't hurt.

I'm not saying I don't like our wr corps, or that I'm not happy with how we have identified and developed underrated talent. I'm just saying ask most objective, informed outsiders which unit they'd take and I'd be willing to bet 9/10 would say FSU.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you think ND will be better than 13-0 this year...

FIFY