'16 IL DE Josh King (Michigan State Verbal)

[Irishnuke]

Maybe we can be far right hat on his table.

 

[Chi_IRISH]

Josh is currently wrestling for an all star team out of Illinois. I believe the pool wrestling is today and the duel team finals are tomorrow. Still wrestling at 220lbs.

 

[Luckylucci]

Josh is currently wrestling for an all star team out of Illinois. I believe the pool wrestling is today and the duel team finals are tomorrow. Still wrestling at 220lbs.

Kudos to him for doing something he enjoys while he's young but I can't help but think..... He's potentially 4 years away from being a 1st rd. NFL draft pick, why F around with wrestling?

 

[ryno 24]

it actually should improve his hands and body control so it is okay and should improve his football skills.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Kid is a junior in high school?

 

[IrishLion]

I get what your saying but wrestling versus dedicated football training is not equal. Getting up to a specific weight and working on explosion, speed, and agility drill would be much better.

I'm not the qualified party to make the argument, but this post makes me think of that article that came out recently about Urban Meyer and recruiting guys that were multi-sport athletes throughout high school.

The more you diversify your talents and training while you're developing in high school, the better the return once you get to the next level.

 

[Chi_IRISH]

Went 3-0 on the day with 3 pins. Not sure what his actual weight was. I'm a little surprised that he hasn't gotten that much bigger yet. I think his body has a ton of room to grow, but thought he would be in the 240 range at this point. Again he's probably only 17, so he has some time.

 

[Wild Bill]

it actually should improve his hands and body control so it is okay and should improve his football skills.

I get what your saying but wrestling versus dedicated football training is not equal. Getting up to a specific weight and working on explosion, speed, and agility drill would be much better.

I played football my entire life, including college. I never wrestled and instead did training programs in the offseason. Big mistake. There is nothing a training program can do to match the toughness, discipline and intensity that wrestling requires. Wrestlers that played football were always tougher, more disciplined and more coachable. They were always physically stronger too. I always knew when I was lined up across a wrestler - they were stronger, knew how to use leverage and were better with their hips and hands. I'd encourage any football player to wrestle at a young age. Nothing will prepare them better. Just one man's opinion.

 

[BeauBenken]

I'm not the qualified party to make the argument, but this post makes me think of that article that came out recently about Urban Meyer and recruiting guys that were multi-sport athletes throughout high school.

The more you diversify your talents and training while you're developing in high school, the better the return once you get to the next level.

One of the things Brian Kelly looks for is a multisport athlete.

 

[Grahambo]

I played football my entire life, including college. I never wrestled and instead did training programs in the offseason. Big mistake. There is nothing a training program can do to match the toughness, discipline and intensity that wrestling requires. Wrestlers that played football were always tougher, more disciplined and more coachable. They were always physically stronger too. I always knew when I was lined up across a wrestler - they were stronger, knew how to use leverage and were better with their hips and hands. I'd encourage any football player to wrestle at a young age. Nothing will prepare them better. Just one man's opinion.

I played football and baseball in high school but regret not participating in winter track.

 

[PANDFAN]

some new news on him from 247..if ya got the sub...i don't

 

[jerboski]

some new news on him from 247..if ya got the sub...i don't

We arent slipping and in his top 4 with Ohio State, Michigan and State. He talks to Denbrock and Gilmore weekly! He has supposedly ramped up his interest in us and will hopefully visit for Irish Invasion however nothing is concrete. The staff would love to get him on campus sooner and it is expected that King will be one of the first guys Gilmore visits next week

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

We arent slipping and in his top 4 with Ohio State, Michigan and State. He talks to Denbrock and Gilmore weekly! He has supposedly ramped up his interest in us and will hopefully visit for Irish Invasion however nothing is concrete. The staff would love to get him on campus sooner and it is expected that King will be one of the first guys Gilmore visits next week

Awesome. This is what I've been wanting to hear.

 

[jerboski]

Awesome. This is what I've been wanting to hear.

Yeah its great new however I was hoping it was going to King is visiting for the Spring game but I will take this for now

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Siah_10">@Siah_10</a> Good Choice bro! Let's make MSU 2016 recruiting class number one!</p>— MagicMan_HSHS (@JoshuaKing_12) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshuaKing_12/status/591050152854614016">April 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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That may be a bad sign there

 

[Luckylucci]

And as of right now it seems like a foregone conclusion that Auston Robertson is headed to MSU. He' have been at MSU two weekends in a row. We have some ground to make up there.

 

[Crazy Balki]

And as of right now it seems like a foregone conclusion that Auston Robertson is headed to MSU. He' have been at MSU two weekends in a row. We have some ground to make up there.

This makes Khalid Kareem and Ron Johnson a must get, but both are quite raw in terms of pass rushing technique. Still getting Kareem, Johnson with Okwara would be a pretty good haul.

 

[Ironman8]

Kareem is not a pass rushing DE. He may even project best as a DT in a 4-3.

 

[stlnd01]

Seriously: Since when does MSU beat us for recruits? Especially ones from Chicago and Fort Wayne? I know they've had a good thing going on defense the last few years, but Narduzzi's gone, and it's not like we've been lousy. I don't get it.

 

[Redbar]

Seriously: Since when does MSU beat us for recruits? Especially ones from Chicago and Fort Wayne? I know they've had a good thing going on defense the last few years, but Narduzzi's gone, and it's not like we've been lousy. I don't get it.

I think it can be summed up in two words: Mark Dantonio.

 

[Crazy Balki]

True. The only one that comes to mind is Malik McDowell and we honestly went a good few months without recruiting him at all.

As for Kareem, I don't see why he's better projected as a DT. He's 6'4 240, and comes off the edge with insane speed and power. True, he still needs to learn proper pass rushing technique, but so do lots of DE's coming out of high school. Hell, Ron Johnson is about the same size as him, if not bigger and he's labeled as a WDE.

 

[jerboski]

King and Xavier are the duo we need

 

[Luckylucci]

King and Xavier are the duo we need

I'm a huge fan of Xavier Kelly, but I feel we need a great visit to just get into his top group.

It's true what Ironman is saying, there is a lot of talk that Kareem out grows DE and becomes a 3T, which they think he can be really good at. We'd just need to still find edge rushers.

 

[jerboski]

I'm a huge fan of Xavier Kelly, but I feel we need a great visit to just get into his top group.

It's true what Ironman is saying, there is a lot of talk that Kareem out grows DE and becomes a 3T, which they think he can be really good at. We'd just need to still find edge rushers.

Xavier is a long shot for sure but would love to have him and King however that isn't looking promising on either front right now....

Kareem is a take as well and would love to land him but we really need someone who can cause havoc from the outside, we don't have anyone like that right now.. Williams, Hill and possibly trumbetti

 

[Irish Storm]

Seriously: Since when does MSU beat us for recruits? Especially ones from Chicago and Fort Wayne? I know they've had a good thing going on defense the last few years, but Narduzzi's gone, and it's not like we've been lousy. I don't get it.

The truth is, they have been the better program over the last few years. With far less talent.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

The truth is, they have been the better program over the last few years. With far less talent.

The real truth is their student athletes don't have to attend classes and do work in order to graduate.


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[Irish Storm]

The real truth is their student athletes don't have to attend classes and do work in order to graduate.


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I see. Every team that out performs ND clearly don't have to go to class or do work.

This sounds like sour grapes.

 

[INLaw]

I see. Every team that out performs ND clearly don't have to go to class or do work.

This sounds like sour grapes.

Sounds like someone who has followed what recruits, recent commits, and Malik McDowell's family actually said.

 

[Irish Storm]

Sounds like someone who has followed what recruits, recent commits, and Malik McDowell's family actually said.

Fair enough but don't our players get to practice the same amount of time as they do? And what about Stanford and Duke? They've outperformed us too.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

'16 IL DE Josh King (Offer)

'16 IL DE Josh King (Offer)

Fair enough but don't our players get to practice the same amount of time as they do? And what about Stanford and Duke? They've outperformed us too.

Stanford Yes, Duke hell no.


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